Aquaman VS Colossus

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comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter
Originally posted by snoopdogg
To be fair, the only time Colossus lifted anything underwater it weighed 300 tons and he carried it on his back effortlessly for 2 miles to shore. And the waster isn't his realm it's AC's. So what has AC lifted on land?

A building on fire.
Supported another collapsing building.
Lifted a spacecraft.

Plus lifting stuff on the surface is not in his realm so it makes perfect sense that most of his feats are underwater.
The three instances I've indicated though are a good indicator of his strength.

Still who has Colossus beaten that put him in Aquaman's league?

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I have the scan somewhere. Plus, I thought handbooks were not used?

Generally no their not, this is me actually being curious as I don't know.

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Originally posted by comicfan11
A building on fire.
Supported another collapsing building.
Lifted a spacecraft.

Plus lifting stuff on the surface is not in his realm so it makes perfect sense that most of his feats are underwater.
The three instances I've indicated though are a good indicator of his strength.

Still who has Colossus beaten that put him in Aquaman's league?

Colossus held up a collapsing underground base that was 200 feet underground....and on top of that was a massive avalanche.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by -K-M-
Generally no their not, this is me actually being curious as I don't know.
I'll see if I can find it. But it clearly states the bird weighs 300 tons.

-K-M- ...........

No rush, if you find it you can pm me whenever as I trust you

comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus held up a collapsing underground base that was 200 feet underground....and on top of that was a massive avalanche.

Impressive.
But still who has Colossus beaten on the level of Superboy or Triton (DC
version son of Poseidon strong enough to hold Wonder Woman with one hand) or Olympian or Despero.

Beaten.
Not fought.

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He schooled the New X-Men before....and he wasn't out for blood:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7008/colossus11hf.gif
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7186/colossus27oa.gif
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4643/colossus33dw.gif

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by -K-M-
Snoop where did it say the blackbird was 300 tons? As I think in one of the old handbooks list it around 60-70 tons.
in the OHOTMU deluxe edition vol. 15 it says the blackbird is 145,000 lbs
(normal take-off weight), that's around 72 imperial tones.

piotr was only a teen when he lifted it though, his strength has at least quadrupled since then.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
in the OHOTMU deluxe edition vol. 15 it says the blackbird is 145,000 lbs
(normal take-off weight), that's around 72 imperial tones.

piotr was only a teen when he lifted it though, his strength has at least quadrupled since then.

So we are to use handbooks? I wish people would make up their mind. If we use handbooks Colossus is Class 100 then.

comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He schooled the New X-Men before....and he wasn't out for blood:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7008/colossus11hf.gif
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7186/colossus27oa.gif
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4643/colossus33dw.gif

You think they are on Olympians or Desperos level?

In issue 16 of his PAD series Orin stalemated and then kicked out of Atlantis (out of water Atlantis) a JLA team with WW, MM, Obsidian, Guy Gardner, Ice and Fire.
In issue 48 he fought an entire army of alien conquerors (out of water) and beaten their leader.

Still New X-men is a good feat but has Piotr beaten any character on the level of Olympian or Triton or etc... one one one?

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Originally posted by comicfan11

Still New X-men is a good feat but has Piotr beaten any character on the level of Olympian or Triton or etc... one one one?

Well he has beaten Juggernaut.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggySW38.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggySW38-2.jpg

And S'ym, and he's a guy who is strong enough to break adamantium:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandSym2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandSym.jpg

Raoul Hey Yo!

when did aquaman beat despero?

Stoic Avenger

I thought that Despero varied in power.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Raoul
when did aquaman beat despero?

Is he talking about the encounter with the shark?

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He also beat Anateus...and he claimed he had the stength to move mountains, Colossus even aknowledges his strengt is far greater than his:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus2.jpg

comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So we are to use handbooks? I wish people would make up their mind. If we use handbooks Colossus is Class 100 then.

That's the problem with DC and Marvel.

Marvel has handbooks (that mean nothing because both Colossus and say... Wonder Man are listed as class 100 but everybody seems to think that WM would murder Piotr)

DC doesn't have because they don't need to.
Everybody knows that Supes is top dog but if Damage lifts a small building everything will be fine becuase he is not restricted by a category that means nothing.

For example Wonder Girl is what level?
I don't know.
Does anybody know for sure?

If Damage beats her nobody will be shocked.
And after that if Wonder Girl lifts a skyscraper again nobody will be shocked because she is just a very strong character that is not restricted by handbooks or ability bars.

If Tigershark beat Grey Hulk in a fist fight out of water evrybody will say "WTF TS is class 80 but Grey Hulk is 90!!! how the heck this happened !!!!"

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So we are to use handbooks? I wish people would make up their mind. If we use handbooks Colossus is Class 100 then.
the weight of the blackbird shouldn't change since it's a real (now decommissioned) aircraft, the lockheed SR-71 series blackbird. the x-men's type is the RS-150, the only difference is the x-men's has more seating room (up to 3 pilots as apposed to 2 for the SR-71) and a shi'ar combustion engine. the weight is virtually the same as the real thing.

and handbooks are fine, as long as there used in conjunction with current comics since feats and such are subject to change.

comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter

The scans with Juggs show Juggs claiming that he beat Piotr (which actually happened) and then Colossus sneaks up on him and pushes him in a pool or something.

That's not a beating.

The guy with the adamantium I'm not familiar with but t says that that's not Colossus but a conjuration against which Sym has no effect.
Plus when did this guy break adamantium?
Did he break it or used some power to dissolve it?
Thor can't break adamantium as far as I know.
Is this character stronger?

As for Antaeus claiming means little.
Sentry claims to have the power of a million exploding stars yet he can't handle Jim Hammond and a Hellicarier or Wolverine (in Avengers/Defenders)
Plus he claims to have stalemated Galactus.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by comicfan11
The scans with Juggs show Juggs claiming that he beat Piotr (which actually happened) and then Colossus sneaks up on him and pushes him in a pool or something.

That's not a beating.

The guy with the adamantium I'm not familiar with but t says that that's not Colossus but a conjuration against which Sym has no effect.
Plus when did this guy break adamantium?
Did he break it or used some power to dissolve it?
Thor can't break adamantium as far as I know.
Is this character stronger?

As for Antaeus claiming means little.
Sentry claims to have the power of a million exploding stars yet he can't handle Jim Hammond and a Hellicarier or Wolverine (in Avengers/Defenders)
Plus he claims to have stalemated Galactus.

Are you the type of guy who can get slapped across the face but a ghost and then turn aroud and say "On, that was the wind"?

comicfan11 Ocean's Heaviest Hitter
Originally posted by darthgoober
Is he talking about the encounter with the shark?

Yes.
The same Despero that thrashed Martian Manhunter and Aquaman was punching him like a ragdoll through some decomisioned ships.