Originally posted by DigiMark007ABC logic and appeal through majority rarely coincide. You know that better than anyone. IMHO, Ult. Cap could take out Ult. Spidey and 616 Spidey through sheer fighting skills, comparable physiques and his ruthless tenacity. 616 Cap can dominate 616 Spidey because he knows his moves inside out despite the physical disadvantages. 616 Cap vs Ult. Spidey? More of a throwup since they're different people. But Ult. Spidey is much much much more inexperienced. Sometimes, he's downright hilarious at how noobish he his. If 616 Cap understands that, he'd be able to take advantage of that.
😐So, by consensus forum logic, Ult. Spidey = Ult. Cap > 616 Spider-Man > 616 Cap.
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As for Ult. Cap vs 616 Cap? Toss-up.
Still, Ult. Cap vs 616 Spiderman? Ult. Cap's physical statistics are comparable to 616 Spidey's. He can leap as high as he does, he's one-shotted the likes of Ult. Juggernaut with a jump-kick. He clearly also has better durability. His fighting skills are also superior and he doesn't mind cheating like a bastard. 616 Spidey is good. Not that good. Spiderman gets 4/10 by pissing Ult. Cap off and throwing him off his game.
Ult. Cap 6/10.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
ABC logic and appeal through majority rarely coincide. You know that better than anyone. IMHO, Ult. Cap could take out Ult. Spidey and 616 Spidey through sheer fighting skills, comparable physiques and his ruthless tenacity. 616 Cap can dominate 616 Spidey because he knows his moves inside out despite the physical disadvantages. 616 Cap vs Ult. Spidey? More of a throwup since they're different people. But Ult. Spidey is much much much more inexperienced. Sometimes, he's downright hilarious at how noobish he his. If 616 Cap understands that, he'd be able to take advantage of that.
It was a joke. You realized that, right?
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Originally posted by Daredevil1Are you kidding me? Ult. Cap was beating up Ult. Green Goblin in 'Ultimate Six.' Not only was he nailing him with punches and kicks and drawing blood, but he was also dancing around him so much that Osborn lost his temper. He only managed to singe him with a fire blast. That's it.
616 Spiderman 7/10U.Cap hasn't shown the skill to be able to defeat 616 Spiderman. As even U.Spiderman defeated the Green Goblin while U.Cap was unable to to much too GG.
616 Spiderman is "superior" too U.Spiderman.
616 Spiderman may be superior, but Ult. Cap's a better fighter and his physical stats either rival or surpass 616 Spiderman's. Please.
Ult. Cap 6/10. Ult. Cap is so underrated it's a joke.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are you kidding me? Ult. Cap was beating up Ult. Green Goblin in 'Ultimate Six.' Not only was he nailing him with punches and kicks and drawing blood, but he was also dancing around him so much that Osborn lost his temper. He only managed to singe him with a fire blast. That's it.616 Spiderman may be superior, but Ult. Cap's a better fighter and his physical stats either rival or surpass 616 Spiderman's. Please.
Ult. Cap 6/10. Ult. Cap is so underrated it's a joke.
He drew blood about the size of 3 drops which is nothing to celebrate about since U.Cap hits were only moving his face an inch or two and not doing really anthing.
Now U.Spidermans punch sent GG flying. Even with the help of Wasp, Hawkeye, and even U.Ironman. U.Cap couldn't beat GG.........LOL.
Seriously go read it and look at the art again.
The fact that you say U.Cap wins because he's more bad ass is delusional in itself.
Originally posted by Daredevil1Funny how when I look at the art, Ult. Cap's punch knocked his head sideways and so did his kick and drew blood. Also funny how you forget to mention that Ult. Green Goblin was not expecting Parker's punch at all and it was a cheapshot. ALSO funny how you make it sound like Ult. Spidey one-shotted him in that same encounter when all he did was punch him once, whereupon Osborn got pissed off. ALSO funny how you forget to mention that by the time everyone you mentioned, Ult. Wasp, Hawkeye and Ironman got involved in the fight, was when Stark hit him with the gene scrambler that subjected Osborn to a massive genetic mutation burst.
He drew blood about the size of 3 drops which is nothing to celebrate about since U.Cap hits were only moving his face an inch or two and not doing really anthing.Now U.Spidermans punch sent GG flying. Even with the help of Wasp, Hawkeye, and even U.Ironman. U.Cap couldn't beat GG.........LOL.
Seriously go read it and look at the art again.
The fact that you say U.Cap wins because he's more bad ass is delusional in itself.
Seriously go read it and look at the art again.
And don't forget the words. They're important. Ult. Cap physically rivals 616 Spiderman in the feats department. His tactical fighting skills are superior. If you want to continue underrating Ult. Cap, go read both volumes of Ultimates, Ultimate War, Ultimate Six and Ultimate Secret. That ought to bring you up to speed.
Ult. Cap 6/10.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Funny how when I look at the art, Ult. Cap's punch knocked his head sideways and so did his kick and drew blood. Also funny how you forget to mention that Ult. Green Goblin was not expecting Parker's punch at all and it was a cheapshot. ALSO funny how you make it sound like Ult. Spidey one-shotted him in that same encounter when all he did was punch him once, whereupon Osborn got pissed off. ALSO funny how you forget to mention that by the time everyone you mentioned, Ult. Wasp, Hawkeye and Ironman got involved in the fight, was when Stark hit him with the gene scrambler that subjected Osborn to a massive genetic mutation burst.Seriously go read it and look at the art again.
And don't forget the words. They're important. Ult. Cap physically rivals 616 Spiderman in the feats department. His tactical fighting skills are superior. If you want to continue underrating Ult. Cap, go read both volumes of Ultimates, Ultimate War, Ultimate Six and Ultimate Secret. That ought to bring you up to speed.
Ult. Cap 6/10.
Wow.....side ways thats incredible(in case you haven't figure it out I'm being sarcastic)......wow a drop of blood. No were did I say U.Spiderman one-shotted him, quote me I dare you.....LOL.
I said he sent him flying. Because his punch made him travel in the air.........LOL.
The fact that you said U.Cap rivals 616 Spiderman is absurd. Go read 616 Spiderman. Read Amazing, Spectacular, annuals, one shots guest appearances.
That ough to bring you up to speed.
U.Cap doesn't even rival USAgent let alone 616 Spiderman.