Ultimate Cap vs 616 Spider-Man

Started by Daredevil118 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What post? I already responded to your posts and lost all faith in your reasoning ability when you actually tried to argue that Ult. Abom never really hit Ult. Cap. There is no side issue here, you guys act as if 616 Spiderman is vastly superior to Ult. Cap in all physical respects. I gave you dozens of chances to prove this and nobody has. Ult. Cap's physical stats rival 616 Spidey's.

Ult. Cap has a greater tactical mind and arguably better fighting skills. While he doesn't have the experience or intimate knowledge that 616 Cap does, Ult. Cap's physicality helps even the odds greatly. Considering he can take a pounding from the likes of Ult. Hulk, Herr Kleiser and Ult. Abomination and take out foes like Herr Klesier and Ult. Juggernaut with straight up H2H, I really don't understand where this incredulity comes from. And I am equally baffled by where this intense hatred for Ult. Cap comes from.

What are you, French?

I doubt PhantomZone is French but even if he is whats the problem? What are you racist or something?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't make this sh1t up.
You go do that, Frenchie. Don't bother with my reasoning. Just post 616 Spidey scans are vastly superior to the Ult. Cap scans I presented. Go for it. I can only ask so many times.

Rebut what? It's on-panel. Just show me 616 Spidey scans that are vastly superior. Jesus, is it really that hard to do that?

Why call him Frenchie.......you just love name calling. So immature.

Neither does it prove his upper limits. So it's pointless in this debate to keep harping about it over and over and over and over again. I already addressed it. You keep repeating it ad naueseam. You can't even type correcly in your own posts, "Wait I'm stupid for remembering a feat thats still as impressive as U.Cap for hurting Korvac." What? 🤨

The difference between my scans and your scans, is that I accompany mine with arguments. You took your last flurry of 616 Cap scans from page 15 (who isn't even a subject of this thread) and directly reposted the same bunch of scans over again on page 16 without even making a new point or different argument. That's spamming. That's just you trying to move your list of idiotic mistakes further away from where people can see them. Don't worry. I'll forgive you this one, as long as you stop reposting the same scan, with the same exact argument and language. But I get to repost that list of mistakes afresh on a new page in return. Ha.

P.S. And now you're reposting entire posts of mine in an attempt to inundate and derail this thread. Goodness. The thread's dead. I called you out on every single argument you made and you're reduced to this. I'ma pat myself on the back. [/thread]

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

P.S. Stop spamming the thread with scans you already posted. Spamming the same exact scans over and over without adding anything new is against forum rules. Knock it off.

Double standard anyone. LOL

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7548/page003004sn5.jpg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10655905
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0203wn.jpg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10679522

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10677677

http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned132ft.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img004ow9.jpg

All you did was make the same losing arguments from this entire threads conception.

Plus you've shown rule breaking in name calling and trying to use the race card against someone.

Seriously your in a corner now and no way out.

But then again you've always made it easy.

Thread's been derailed. I didn't take an entire list of scans from page 15 and repost the same exact set of scans, without any additional arguments on page 16. That's what you did. The scans that I reposted were a part of a list of mistakes on your point that I wished to point out publically. The intention of that post was to make a new argument that your credibility has been awful for the entire run of the thread. equivocation? Maybe. But at least I put effort into presenting them differently whereas you copied and repasted.

I'm requesting the thread be closed. If you wanted to derail it to the point where it became a pissing match and is constantly spammed, you win. I'm totally satisfied with the view count that my arguments and scans were seen by plenty of people. I don't care to convince you of otherwise anymore.

But on that last note, before the thread's closed. Here you go, some of your own medicine back at ya...

Here's a few gems from this thread's debate from you, you utterly awful excuse for a debater:

Daredevil1, "Even in a issue were it shows them moving subs and other heavy equipment it shows U.Ironman and Captain Britain doing all the work as U.Cap is not bothering.........hmmmmmm I wonder why." Gee. Maybe because he doesn't breathe underwater or fly? Yeah... if that doesn't make sense... you can go ahead and keep wondering why.

Daredevil1, "Cap has one shotted by your definition of it anyhow Korvac, Thunderball, Hulk" No comment necessary. Somewhere baby Jesus is still crying because you actually said something like this.

Daredevil1, "Cap's... Even healed from a bullet to the head in a mere minute" The supremely sad thing is... YOU were the one who introduced the damn scan to us in the first place and you utterly failed to notice that the doctor says 12 minutes: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7548/page003004sn5.jpg What are you, illiterate?! It was your OWN scan!!!!

Daredevil1, "Abom telegraphed that attack from a mile away plus the fist don't look to be actually connecting make it vague at best."On this scan: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029 You actually sit there and say that Ult. Abom connecting is vague?! Are you blind?!

Daredevil1, "The Wasp calms him down. Which lowers his power extremely." Oh noez! Ult. Wasp lowered his power so extremely that Ult. Hulk was only able to tear a reinforced tank apart like paper! Which means Ult. Cap only briefly knocked out a foe that had the strength level to tear a tank like it was cardboard! Wow. So weak! [/sarcasm]

Daredevil1, "Second they say the name "Hard-Drive" is that juggernauts name?" Your ignorance continues to amaze. Hard-Drive is the name of another mutant in the room. For god's sake, they talk to each other in the preceding pages!!!!11

Daredevil1, "No I haven't even touched true low feats for U.Cap but if you want to head that route how about a group of humans holding him down when he was facing zola." Of course, you completely ignored the clusterf@ck that Ult. Cap crashed into and had to climb out of: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10655905 Yeah... hard to see considering it happens on the, let's say it together: the PRECEDING PAGE!!!

Daredevil1, "Spiderman lifts up the darn daily bugle." You honestly believe he lifted the entire Daily Bugle? Utterly fantastic. Good job showing your unbiased interpretations. He helped support the building's foundations.

Daredevil1, "PS. Yeah King thor was hurt and back to his original powers but even so he showed he could put his energy through Cap's unbreakable shield which even Hulk and gladiator couldn't dent." GAWD. King Thor regained his Odinforce power when he took off Dr. Strange's amulet! It happens in the SAME EXACT PANEL that he kills Cap: http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0203wn.jpg Are you kidding me?!

Daredevil1, "And him listening to the challenge of one vs one and no one getting involved was after the fact, not when U.Cap was down. But after U.Cap got up then he listened to that." Another gem. Abdul talks to him before he gets up. He asks him to "On your feet, sir... I've waited half my life to rip that star off your chest." It's right there on the friggin pages!!! Did you skip these two pages?! Honestly:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10679522

Daredevil1, "Me bringing up the power gem is relevant because you mentioned U.Juggs stalemated U.Collosus as a testament to U.Cap "one shotting him" and yet when he stalemated U.Collosus he had the power gem IIRC." The first time Ult. Juggernaut beats Ult. Colossus is back in Ult. X-Men #8. Ult. Juggernaut didn't get the Gem of Cytorrak until wellllll after this and 'Ultimate War.' Your utter ignorance of the Ultimate Universe continues to amaze.

Daredevil1, "U.Hulk immediately responded as he knew what he was doing and even told him to get that thing away from him IIRC. Showing U.Hulk knew exactly what was going on and even broke the needle... Banner does know.........Ult. Hulk did not. Unless you can prove otherwise." Ult. Hulk RETAINS Banner's memories. Why is this obvious?! Because he friggin remembers Betty is having dinner with Freddie Prinze Jr. and is hunting them down. The only time Betty tells him this is before Banner changes when he's ont he damn payphone in the prior issue!!! GAWD. He designed and gave the Ultimates the god damned needle before transforming. Of course he knew what was going on with the damn needle. But since it was the prior issue... and you can't even read prior pages... I should have expected another EPIC PHAIL.

Daredevil1, "In a annual he even admitted moving these big rocks is to much of a task for him as others are more capable and then the next page it shows the characters he's talking about." Never admitted moving those rocks were too much. Utterly wrong. The heavy lifting he was referring to was salvaging the Statue of Liberty. He obviously is lifting the rocks by himself and taking care of the dead beneath the rubble: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10677677

Daredevil1, "Stick it is." Of course, had you bothered to look at the scan, you'll see he picks up the damn bone from the remains of Ult. Red Guardian's cannibalized shield on the ground. But considering you don't like reading the panels, I wasn't surprised at all: http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned132ft.jpg

Daredevil1, "U.Cap even saids "If we can roll" implying he needs Falcons help and can't move that one on his own." He doesn't even have Ult. Falcon help him! Ult. Falcon just pulls the person out while he pushes it off the victim himself! Look at the art! Look at the panel that you yourself posted: http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img004ow9.jpg

I wonder how many more gems like these you'll drop. Do you understand now why I have absolutely lost all faith in your reading comprehension skills? This has nothing to do with your obvious bias anymore. You just can't even plain read comics, are ignorant of characters, ignore what happens on the preceding page, turn 12 minutes into 1 minute and actually believed that Cap one-shotted Korvac or that Spidey lifted up the entire Daily Bugle. Please. And I'm supposed to take your arguments seriously? HA!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Neither does it prove his upper limits. So it's pointless in this debate to keep harping about it over and over and over and over again. I already addressed it. You keep repeating it ad naueseam. You can't even type correcly in your own posts, [b]"Wait I'm stupid for remembering a feat thats still as impressive as U.Cap for hurting Korvac." What? 🤨

The difference between my scans and your scans, is that I accompany mine with arguments. You took your last flurry of 616 Cap scans from page 15 (who isn't even a subject of this thread) and directly reposted the same bunch of scans over again on page 16 without even making a new point or different argument. That's spamming. That's just you trying to move your list of idiotic mistakes further away from where people can see them. Don't worry. I'll forgive you this one, as long as you stop reposting the same scan, with the same exact argument and language. But I get to repost that list of mistakes afresh on a new page in return. Ha.

P.S. And now you're reposting entire posts of mine in an attempt to inundate and derail this thread. Goodness. The thread's dead. I called you out on every single argument you made and you're reduced to this. I'ma pat myself on the back. [/thread] [/B]

Seriously this shows that you've lost and not in good grace. You were babbling on about that I broke the rules and here in your posts I have proven that you broke the rules to begin with.

And that you just cherry-pick in the books whatever suits you to the point now that you go off and say I pat myself on the back. Seriously people bumb the threads is really not help you out. I countered all you call outs and reduced you to not having anything that remotely shows that U.Cap rivals Spiderman.

Your entire posts are there to use against you. I guess you just don't like that as your past came back to haunt you my friend.

🙂

Don't take it the wrong way but seriously you didn't really establish anything.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Here's a few gems from this thread's debate from you, you utterly awful excuse for a debater:

Daredevil1, [b]"Even in a issue were it shows them moving subs and other heavy equipment it shows U.Ironman and Captain Britain doing all the work as U.Cap is not bothering.........hmmmmmm I wonder why." Gee. Maybe because he doesn't breathe underwater or fly? Yeah... if that doesn't make sense... you can go ahead and keep wondering why.

Daredevil1, "Cap has one shotted by your definition of it anyhow Korvac, Thunderball, Hulk" No comment necessary. Somewhere baby Jesus is still crying because you actually said something like this.

Daredevil1, "Cap's... Even healed from a bullet to the head in a mere minute" The supremely sad thing is... YOU were the one who introduced the damn scan to us in the first place and you utterly failed to notice that the doctor says 12 minutes: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7548/page003004sn5.jpg What are you, illiterate?! It was your OWN scan!!!!

Daredevil1, "Abom telegraphed that attack from a mile away plus the fist don't look to be actually connecting make it vague at best."On this scan: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029 You actually sit there and say that Ult. Abom connecting is vague?! Are you blind?!

Daredevil1, "The Wasp calms him down. Which lowers his power extremely." Oh noez! Ult. Wasp lowered his power so extremely that Ult. Hulk was only able to tear a reinforced tank apart like paper! Which means Ult. Cap only briefly knocked out a foe that had the strength level to tear a tank like it was cardboard! Wow. So weak! [/sarcasm]

Daredevil1, "Second they say the name "Hard-Drive" is that juggernauts name?" Your ignorance continues to amaze. Hard-Drive is the name of another mutant in the room. For god's sake, they talk to each other in the preceding pages!!!!11

Daredevil1, "No I haven't even touched true low feats for U.Cap but if you want to head that route how about a group of humans holding him down when he was facing zola." Of course, you completely ignored the clusterf@ck that Ult. Cap crashed into and had to climb out of: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10655905 Yeah... hard to see considering it happens on the, let's say it together: the PRECEDING PAGE!!!

Daredevil1, "Spiderman lifts up the darn daily bugle." You honestly believe he lifted the entire Daily Bugle? Utterly fantastic. Good job showing your unbiased interpretations. He helped support the building's foundations.

Daredevil1, "PS. Yeah King thor was hurt and back to his original powers but even so he showed he could put his energy through Cap's unbreakable shield which even Hulk and gladiator couldn't dent." GAWD. King Thor regained his Odinforce power when he took off Dr. Strange's amulet! It happens in the SAME EXACT PANEL that he kills Cap: http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0203wn.jpg Are you kidding me?!

Daredevil1, "And him listening to the challenge of one vs one and no one getting involved was after the fact, not when U.Cap was down. But after U.Cap got up then he listened to that." Another gem. Abdul talks to him before he gets up. He asks him to "On your feet, sir... I've waited half my life to rip that star off your chest." It's right there on the friggin pages!!! Did you skip these two pages?! Honestly:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10341029
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10679522

Daredevil1, "Me bringing up the power gem is relevant because you mentioned U.Juggs stalemated U.Collosus as a testament to U.Cap "one shotting him" and yet when he stalemated U.Collosus he had the power gem IIRC." The first time Ult. Juggernaut beats Ult. Colossus is back in Ult. X-Men #8. Ult. Juggernaut didn't get the Gem of Cytorrak until wellllll after this and 'Ultimate War.' Your utter ignorance of the Ultimate Universe continues to amaze.

Daredevil1, "U.Hulk immediately responded as he knew what he was doing and even told him to get that thing away from him IIRC. Showing U.Hulk knew exactly what was going on and even broke the needle... Banner does know.........Ult. Hulk did not. Unless you can prove otherwise." Ult. Hulk RETAINS Banner's memories. Why is this obvious?! Because he friggin remembers Betty is having dinner with Freddie Prinze Jr. and is hunting them down. The only time Betty tells him this is before Banner changes when he's ont he damn payphone in the prior issue!!! GAWD. He designed and gave the Ultimates the god damned needle before transforming. Of course he knew what was going on with the damn needle. But since it was the prior issue... and you can't even read prior pages... I should have expected another EPIC PHAIL.

Daredevil1, "In a annual he even admitted moving these big rocks is to much of a task for him as others are more capable and then the next page it shows the characters he's talking about." Never admitted moving those rocks were too much. Utterly wrong. The heavy lifting he was referring to was salvaging the Statue of Liberty. He obviously is lifting the rocks by himself and taking care of the dead beneath the rubble: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10677677

Daredevil1, "Stick it is." Of course, had you bothered to look at the scan, you'll see he picks up the damn bone from the remains of Ult. Red Guardian's cannibalized shield on the ground. But considering you don't like reading the panels, I wasn't surprised at all: http://img428.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned132ft.jpg

Daredevil1, "U.Cap even saids "If we can roll" implying he needs Falcons help and can't move that one on his own." He doesn't even have Ult. Falcon help him! Ult. Falcon just pulls the person out while he pushes it off the victim himself! Look at the art! Look at the panel that you yourself posted: http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img004ow9.jpg

I wonder how many more gems like these you'll drop. Do you understand now why I have absolutely lost all faith in your reading comprehension skills? This has nothing to do with your obvious bias anymore. You just can't even plain read comics, are ignorant of characters, ignore what happens on the preceding page, turn 12 minutes into 1 minute and actually believed that Cap one-shotted Korvac or that Spidey lifted up the entire Daily Bugle. Please. And I'm supposed to take your arguments seriously? HA! [/B]

Ha. Again with your double standards. Already counter all that as you ignore. And I see your reposting and you said I'm breaking the rules....LOL.

I already admitted that I was spamming the thread just like you did. But your utter bravado after being confronted with your list of mistakes would be admirable if it weren't so sad. Poking fun and calling Phantomzone a Frenchie when he's making fun of Ult. Cap is worse than you taking the exact same posting of scans from page 15 and reposting it in the same exact order and spacing on page 16? Sorry. I believe derailing a thread by spamming is worse then attempting to inject humor into a conversation. I know Phantomzone isn't French. His friggin location says United Kingdom. I see how that would slip past your view though.

You derailed the thread completely. You went from double to triple posting in the last several pages, to repeating the same exact posts and scans to quoting entire posts of mine to derail the thread. It's absolutely obvious what you're trying to do and in order to stop the pissing contest between you and I, the thread'll be dead in a lil while. You can't honestly think that I feel like I'm on the shorter end of the stick when you said exactly what you said as pointed out in the above list of mistakes? I even got Phantomzone and you to acknowledge Ult. Cap's durability. I showed him that he was more skilled than he thought. I corrected your misconceptions and mistaken interpretations at every turn. I never tried to convince you that Ult. Cap would win. Only that you got your reading and opinion utterly wrong based on your bias. It's over, kid. Thread's done.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I already admitted that I was spamming the thread just like you did. But your utter bravado after being confronted with your list of mistakes would be admirable if it weren't so sad. Poking fun and calling Phantomzone a Frenchie when he's making fun of Ult. Cap is worse than you taking the exact same posting of scans from page 15 and reposting it in the same exact order and spacing on page 16? Sorry. I believe derailing a thread by spamming is worse then attempting to inject humor into a conversation. I know Phantomzone isn't French. His friggin location says United Kingdom. I see how that would slip past your view though.

You derailed the thread completely. You went from double to triple posting in the last several pages, to repeating the same exact posts and scans to quoting entire posts of mine to derail the thread. It's absolutely obvious what you're trying to do and in order to stop the pissing contest between you and I, the thread'll be dead in a lil while. You can't honestly think that I feel like I'm on the shorter end of the stick when you said exactly what you said as pointed out in the above list of mistakes? I even got Phantomzone and you to acknowledge Ult. Cap's durability. I showed him that he was more skilled than he thought. I corrected your misconceptions and mistaken interpretations at every turn. I never tried to convince you that Ult. Cap would win. Only that you got your reading and opinion utterly wrong based on your bias. It's over, kid. Thread's done.

Your right its done. You derailed this thread completely with name calling to making racist remarks. And then telling me I'm spamming which is you since I already quoted and re-established my stance on your same old ones.

And then you repeat your long winded post again after I had countered every bit of it and easily mind you.

Seriously you didn't establish anything and even random posters popped up in this thread to saying your are extreme with your ultimate Cap views.

Your double standards have been seen and hopefully more. The fact that you back-peddle and say its humore your name calling and remarks is quite hilarious and no one is buying it but you. Your right it is over.

Random posters also agreed with me: Galan07, The Illuminati, Bentley, carver9, Ilagrok, Caps Conscience, darth fury. These people said I was extreme in my views: Starscream, Phantomzone, Stormbreaker and Battlehammer. Metalmanx agreed that Ult. Cap was underrated but also took exception to my views. The list of idiocies is still there for all to see. Last word is mine. 😛

P.S. I also noticed you utilizing excessive spacing in your posts too. You even quintuple-posted on two separate occasions. You are just so precious! 😆

Wonder why this thread hasn't been closed yet. Ah well, opportunity to show you up on yet another point:

Daredevil1, "Since it doesn't show how U.Juggs was captured off panel its irrelevant and out of the evidence. Plus I see you ignore the deadly gas around the area as even U.Cap had to wear a mask against it." Simple question for you, "How was Ult. Juggernaut ultimately captured if he wasn't knocked out by Ult. Cap?" Answer the question.

If you think it was because he fell out of the building, then you're ridiculous. If you think that regular human SHIELD agents captured him, then you're being retarded. If you think that SHIELD supersoldiers from the Ultimate Reserves were responsible, then you're ignoring that they were never depicted in 'Ultimate War,' and 'Ultimate War' took place before Ultimates v2. The Ultimate Reserves weren't in the field until well into Ultimates v2.

But perhaps you've realized how stupid all those theories sound, and now you think the "deadly gas" had something to do with it? Priceless. Just forgetting that gas knocking him out is underestimating Ult. Juggs to the Nth degree... let me ask you another straight up question, "Did this "deadly gas" knock out Ult. Rogue, Ult. Toad or Ult. Vanisher?" Answer the question.

Because, maybe you forget, but they were all in the same room together. Ult. Vanisher ran out of the building only to ambushed by Ult. Black Widow. Ult. Rogue and Ult. Toad jumped out a window AFTER Ult. Juggs was kicked and nearly managed to escape. No mention was made of this "deadly gas" affecting either of them. They didn't appear to be poisoned or coughing. But perhaps you're trying to assert that Ult. Rogue and Ult. Toad are more resistant to this "deadly gas" than Ult. Juggs is. 😆

And just like all the other times, I know you won't answer any of my direct questions and will dodge them.

"Deadly gas?" More like another epic phail.

616 petey gets stomped.

Originally posted by carnage52
616 petey gets stomped.

No, not happening. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wonder why this thread hasn't been closed yet. Ah well, opportunity to show you up on yet another point:

Daredevil1, [b]"Since it doesn't show how U.Juggs was captured off panel its irrelevant and out of the evidence. Plus I see you ignore the deadly gas around the area as even U.Cap had to wear a mask against it." Simple question for you, "How was Ult. Juggernaut ultimately captured if he wasn't knocked out by Ult. Cap?" Answer the question.

If you think it was because he fell out of the building, then you're ridiculous. If you think that regular human SHIELD agents captured him, then you're being retarded. If you think that SHIELD supersoldiers from the Ultimate Reserves were responsible, then you're ignoring that they were never depicted in 'Ultimate War,' and 'Ultimate War' took place before Ultimates v2. The Ultimate Reserves weren't in the field until well into Ultimates v2.

But perhaps you've realized how stupid all those theories sound, and now you think the "deadly gas" had something to do with it? Priceless. Just forgetting that gas knocking him out is underestimating Ult. Juggs to the Nth degree... let me ask you another straight up question, "Did this "deadly gas" knock out Ult. Rogue, Ult. Toad or Ult. Vanisher?" Answer the question.

Because, maybe you forget, but they were all in the same room together. Ult. Vanisher ran out of the building only to ambushed by Ult. Black Widow. Ult. Rogue and Ult. Toad jumped out a window AFTER Ult. Juggs was kicked and nearly managed to escape. No mention was made of this "deadly gas" affecting either of them. They didn't appear to be poisoned or coughing. But perhaps you're trying to assert that Ult. Rogue and Ult. Toad are more resistant to this "deadly gas" than Ult. Juggs is. 😆

And just like all the other times, I know you won't answer any of my direct questions and will dodge them.

"Deadly gas?" More like another epic phail. [/B]

All that ramble and still you didn't prove he was one-shot by U.Cap.

All your giving is your theories here OneDumbGO can't you do anything else. 616 Captain America's body was able to block off a living virus that affected everyone else including true "superhuman's" like She -Hulk certain characacters can be more susceptible to certain weaknesses.

Like Superman is way susceptible to kryptonite as it also affects humans in the long run like radiation destruction of Lex's hand but it effects Superman vastly more.

So again your deadly gas theory not working fails at that.

Also how do you know they are not enhanced Shield soilders off panel or used a special device off panel.

Or another strong brick characters aided Shield off panel.

You have no proof that he was KO'ed off panel.

The fact that you linger onto this feats shows your desperation for a high end feat.

Do you seriously think U.Cap can one shot U.Juggs but can't one shot others? Seriously ask yourself.

Why didn't he one shot Hawk owl if he can achieve this.

Or Sabretooth
Or Wolverine
Or Kleiser
Or Abdui
Or Russian SS
Or Green Goblin
Or Abdui

Seriously you need to quit clinging to a feat that you have no proof whatsover. Why in the world should we take a obscure feat that you say he KO'ed U.Juggs and couldn't to people vastly weaker then U.Jugs.

At least I have feats of 616 Cap hurt Korvac(circumstance) and put down the real Hulk.....unlike U.Cap.

Notice I said hurt Korcac this time because I admit I was wrong. You can't even prove your case and don't even admit to it.

Thats what separates posters like you and me.

LOL

OneDumbG0 and Daredevil1, you both need to stop now. Posting the same posts and scans over and over is spam. Name calling and bashing is not permitted here. Next time it's a warning.

Startscream, let's just say you won't be doing anything like this again.

Originally posted by Starscream M
onedumbo, stop wanking off ult. cap
crackers

OneDumbGO, please act civily toward your fellow members. Thank you.

Also, walls o' text are painful. 😐

might as well make it three for three...

its getting a bit tasty on this thread. 😆

Spidey wins. But not easily. Ult. Cap puts up a great fight against Peter.

ult cap 7/10