Batman R.I.P.

Started by tjcoady25 pages

Batman was never going to or supposed to physically die- and probably won't give up the mantle of Batman either.

The freaking arc opened with a page where Batman screams directly at the reader "YOU'RE WRONG! BATMAN AND ROBIN WILL NEVER DIE!"

Considering that Morrison goes out of his way to show that Batman is ALWAYS right, it's kind of hard to get the impression he ever set out to kill him.

Plus Bruce Wayne is still Batman in Final Crisis... check out 682.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Batman was never going to or supposed to physically die- and probably won't give up the mantle of Batman either.

The freaking arc opened with a page where Batman screams directly at the reader "YOU'RE WRONG! BATMAN AND ROBIN WILL NEVER DIE!"

Considering that Morrison goes out of his way to show that Batman is ALWAYS right, it's kind of hard to get the impression he ever set out to kill him.

You realize Robin has died before and that "Batman" isn't necessarily "BruceWayne", right?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You realize Robin has died before and that "Batman" isn't necessarily "BruceWayne", right?

Of course I do.

It doesn't change the fact that when Morrison is being metatextual, he can be kind of obvious.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Of course I do.

It doesn't change the fact that when Morrison is being metatextual, he can be kind of obvious.

And just because he was obvious doesn't mean that you happen to interpret it correctly. Simply keeping Batman and Robin around doesn't mean he's keep Wayne alive. It may have been the lamest death a long running superhero has ever gotten but I'm fairly certain that Bruce is dead. Besides there's a story arc coming up called "Battle for the Cowl". What exactly do you think might cause that?

Morrison has stated over and over that he plans to put Bruce Wayne in a position that "worse than death", and that he doesn't believe in outright killing characters.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Morrison has stated over and over that he plans to put Bruce Wayne in a position that "worse than death", and that he doesn't believe in outright killing characters.

I doubt he is dead..

Bruce Wayne has gotten out of worser situations then this and has survived..

Besides its going to about whether or not people except

Spoiler:
Dick Grayson as the new Bats

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And just because he was obvious doesn't mean that you happen to interpret it correctly. Simply keeping Batman and Robin around doesn't mean he's keep Wayne alive. It may have been the lamest death a long running superhero has ever gotten but I'm fairly certain that Bruce is dead. Besides there's a story arc coming up called "Battle for the Cowl". What exactly do you think might cause that?

It's not a death. Batman, Bruce Wayne Batman, is shown alive afterwards, in Batman 682, being tortured by the evil gods.

That's because Bruce's temporary end is coming in FC which is what Morrison always said.

Why do people still listen to what Morrison has to say?

*sigh*

Why wouldn't people listen to what Morrison has to say?

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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Why do people still listen to what Morrison has to say?

*sigh*

Because he's a damn brilliant writer. To each his own, man. Personally, I thought "Heart of Hush" was hackneyed and formulaic, even though generally I love Dini.

Originally posted by tjcoady
It's not a death. Batman, Bruce Wayne Batman, is shown alive afterwards, in Batman 682, being tortured by the evil gods.

Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry.

682 is a much better Morrison type story than RIP was, btw.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry.

682 is a much better Morrison type story than RIP was, btw.

I'd agree with you on that one. Seriously, an evil New God tumor disguised as Alfred in Bruce's psyche? HAMLET BATMAN??

So RIP was for nothing then?

Originally posted by Dark Exile
So RIP was for nothing then?
Based on what?

He didnt even die?

Originally posted by Dark Exile
He didnt even die?

From 20 questions for DD:

NEWSARAMA: "So – fundamentally, “Batman R.I.P” did not end in Batman #681?"

Dan Didio: "Correct. We have the two parts that we’re in the middle of now, and they lead us into Final Crisis #6 which gives us a definite conclusion to the Batman story"

Soooooo....Didio and Morrison alike define the word conclusion as "to be continue"? Because as I remember Batman #681 DID say it was a conclusion to R.I.P.

This thing is total mess! Countdown all over again. Even worse...they dragged Batman.

The obvious question here is this....

Why didn't Batman #681 said "to be concluded in Final Crisis"? Why wasn't Final Crisis #2 NOT a R.I.P. Tie-in to R.I.P? Am I missing something?

So basically the R.I.P. ending...or conclusion will take place @ Final Crisis? Well, I guess everyone that was praising how issue #681 (supposly ended) will actually HAVE to read Final Crisis in order to get the REAL ending of R.I.P.

Where I come from this is consider a disorder and a complete mess. Sorry, I call it as I see it. Honestly, anyone see this as logical?