what if batman's and spider-man's rouges gallery switched?

Newjak, you're underestimating poison ivy D:

spider-man in gotham faces:

-joker - 7/10
-freeze - 7/10
-bane - 8/10
-shiva -
-ra's-al-ghul - 4/10
-clay face - 5/10
-kgbeast - ?
-prometheus - 4/10
-man-bat - 5/10
-poison ivy - 5/10

batman in manhattan faces:

-lizard - 6/10
-carnage - 3/10
-rhino - 7/10
-doc ock - 7/10
-hydro-man - 3/10
-sandman - 3/10
-electro - 6/10
-green goblin - 8/10
-kraven the hunter - 6/10
-mysterio - 8/10

The toughest fight for Spidey would be a fully teched out Prometheus. He'd be able to read him like Iron man, and the guy has a lot of countermeasures when it comes to heroes.

On Bats sides...there is only so much a man can do against the elements. Those would be his biggest challenges.

Originally posted by Avlon
spider-man in gotham faces:

-joker - 7/10
-freeze - 7/10
-bane - 8/10
-shiva -
-ra's-al-ghul - 4/10
-clay face - 5/10
-kgbeast - ?
-prometheus - 4/10
-man-bat - 5/10
-poison ivy - 5/10

batman in manhattan faces:

-lizard - 6/10
-carnage - 3/10
-rhino - 7/10
-doc ock - 7/10
-hydro-man - 3/10
-sandman - 3/10
-electro - 6/10
-green goblin - 8/10
-kraven the hunter - 6/10
-mysterio - 8/10

The toughest fight for Spidey would be a fully teched out Prometheus. He'd be able to read him like Iron man, and the guy has a lot of countermeasures when it comes to heroes.

On Bats sides...there is only so much a man can do against the elements. Those would be his biggest challenges.

im thinking bats gets raped by carnage,his only chance would be if bats finds out his weakness.whos to say carnage doesnt kill him before he finds out.only way bats beats him is by pis

Originally posted by psycho gundam
how come you left the KGBeast and lady shiva blank?

I'm not familiar enough with them to property rate them.

Originally posted by Avlon
spider-man in gotham faces:

-joker - 7/10
-freeze - 7/10
-bane - 8/10
-shiva -
-ra's-al-ghul - 4/10
-clay face - 5/10
-kgbeast - ?
-prometheus - 4/10
-man-bat - 5/10
-poison ivy - 5/10

batman in manhattan faces:

-lizard - 6/10
-carnage - 3/10
-rhino - 7/10
-doc ock - 7/10
-hydro-man - 3/10
-sandman - 3/10
-electro - 6/10
-green goblin - 8/10
-kraven the hunter - 6/10
-mysterio - 8/10

The toughest fight for Spidey would be a fully teched out Prometheus. He'd be able to read him like Iron man, and the guy has a lot of countermeasures when it comes to heroes.

On Bats sides...there is only so much a man can do against the elements. Those would be his biggest challenges.

I don't know about KGbeast but Spiday takes Lady Shiva 9/10 at least

Batman would probably have less trouble against Spiderman's enemies, despite many of them being physically stronger than his own. Batman's enemies are mostly genius', and Spiderman's are mostly dumbshits. A change of a couple items in the utility belt to match some new villains, and it would be OK. Batman's strategic mind would be far too much for them.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman would probably have less trouble against Spiderman's enemies, despite many of them being physically stronger than his own. Batman's enemies are mostly genius', and Spiderman's are mostly dumbshits. A change of a couple items in the utility belt to match some new villains, and it would be OK. Batman's strategic mind would be far too much for them.

But let us not forget this the same Batman that has had trouble with Killer Croc, and Man-Bat.

Both of whom would be C-Lister's in Spidey's gallery. The fact is Batman doesn't have near as much wiggle room against Spidey's villains as he does against his own far physically inferior ones.

The first time Batman got caught against the Lizard in a sewer without some decent prep, I don't see Batman walking away from that.

Originally posted by Newjak
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Mysterio, Kraven are all far from stupid.

But let us not forget this the same Batman that has had trouble with Killer Croc, and Man-Bat.

Both of whom would be C-Lister's in Spidey's gallery. The fact is Batman doesn't have near as much wiggle room against Spidey's villains as he does against his own far physically inferior ones.

The first time Batman got caught against the Lizard in a sewer without some decent prep, I don't see Batman walking away from that.

Batman recently fought Ninjas with the Man-Bat serum, and clobbered a dozen or so of them with little difficulty.

They might be C Listers in Spiderman's gallery, because they fight his type of fight. Joker would be the scariest thing Spiderman ever encountered[in fact, I'd hardly be surprised that after their first encounter we had a Jokerized Spidey], and he wouldn't even know what hit him when Ras Al Ghul plotted against him.

And Batman's walked away from worse than Lizard.

I can't see how Spidey would beat Clayface or save the city from Joker or Riddler.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
I can't see how Spidey would beat Clayface or save the city from Joker or Riddler.

How does Batman do it...??

And why cant Spider-man do the same?

Originally posted by Juntai
What was the last plot Doc Ock, Goblin, Mysterio or Kraven put together that rivals Ras Al Ghul, or Joker or Riddler?

Batman recently fought Ninjas with the Man-Bat serum, and clobbered a dozen or so of them with little difficulty.

They might be C Listers in Spiderman's gallery, because they fight his type of fight. Joker would be the scariest thing Spiderman ever encountered[in fact, I'd hardly be surprised that after their first encounter we had a Jokerized Spidey], and he wouldn't even know what hit him when Ras Al Ghul plotted against him.

And Batman's walked away from worse than Lizard.

And I think you over estimate how scary these villains would be to Spiderman. The guy has fought heralds, demons, vampires, etc. To say that the Joker strolling into town would cause Peter to wet his pants is a little overboard.

And Batman has been beaten by Killer Croc who is by far less than the Lizard.

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
I can't see how Spidey would beat Clayface or save the city from Joker or Riddler.

As to how he would save the city probably the same way he always does against the Kingpin.

Can someone post The Jokers durability feats, anything to suggest he can take 1 punch from a bloodlusted Pete?

And a link to Riddlers force shield that would stop him getting hit by a bloodlusted Pete?

Originally posted by Newjak
[B]Green Goblin is currently the head of an entire government sanctioned Super Villain Army 😐

And Batman has been beaten by Killer Croc who is by far less than the Lizard.

Originally posted by Juntai
So they have no plots that can compare huh? Nice backpedaling.

And Pter has notorius trouble with human MA's, far less in skill than the likes of Shiva. See how easy that is?
Batman typically KOes Croc with relative ease.

What has Joker done lately of any note 😬

Batman typically has trouble with anyone who is his physical superior, and that is being modest. Bane, Slade, Croc, Man-Bat, and etc. They all rely on their physical superiority to make Bats earn his wins.

The only difference is that the Lizard could chew and eat all of them up physically. And Carnage would destroy Batman in a fight without prep.

Seriously you are underestimating just how much superior physically Spiderman's villains are compared to Batman's toughest foe.

Originally posted by Juk3n
How does Batman do it...??

And why cant Spider-man do the same?

Gear.

I have not read many Clayface strips, but I know that the only way to defeat him is to paralyze him. Physical force is useless, and Spider-Man's webs would just be swallowed in the clay.

From my memories, I can list three ways Batman has defeated Clayface:
- Freeze him with frost patrons (Or whatever they are called)
- Electrocuted him with electrified batarang.
- Sealed him into a room without windows, ventilation or other types of holes.

If Spider-Man would stumble across him on the street, he would be deadmeat. At least Batman is relatively prepared.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Can someone post The Jokers durability feats, anything to suggest he can take 1 punch from a bloodlusted Pete?

And a link to Riddlers force shield that would stop him getting hit by a bloodlusted Pete?

If you read enough about Joker and Riddler, you will soon realise that their entire characteristic style would be based on the fact that they avoid being hit. The REAL question is if Pete is efficient enough to reach Joker or Riddler without stumbling over their traps and ambushes.

Originally posted by Newjak
Dude plotted himself into leading an army of Super Villains

What has Joker done lately of any note 😬

Batman typically has trouble with anyone who is his physical superior, and that is being modest. Bane, Slade, Croc, Man-Bat, and etc. They all rely on their physical superiority to make Bats earn his wins.

The only difference is that the Lizard could chew and eat all of them up physically. And Carnage would destroy Batman in a fight without prep.

Seriously you are underestimating just how much superior physically Spiderman's villains are compared to Batman's toughest foe.

Grundy.
http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc121&image=3fc_batgrundy1.jpg

Choking out Lobo, Lobo unable to pull him away, until Lobo points out the villain of the story.
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmanlobodeadlyseriousoo8.jpg

Beats Aquaman down until he surrenders.
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc287&image=3a3_aqbat2.jpg
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc87&image=697_aqbat3.jpg

How superior are his villains to what Batman's faced and beat the crap out of?

Originally posted by Juntai
Grodd.
http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc122&image=233_batgrodd2.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc80&image=0f5_batgrodd3.jpg

Grundy.
http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc121&image=3fc_batgrundy1.jpg

Choking out Lobo, Lobo unable to pull him away, until Lobo points out the villain of the story.
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmanlobodeadlyseriousoo8.jpg

Beats Aquaman down until he surrenders.
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc287&image=3a3_aqbat2.jpg
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc87&image=697_aqbat3.jpg

How superior are his villains to what Batman's faced and beat the crap out of?

Spider-man has beaten Firelord, Thor, Juggernaut, Hulk

I don't really think you really want to start putting out that garbage.

I mean let's be honest go ahead and make a Batman vs anyone you just mentioned match. See how that works out for ya 😉

Last time I read, Spider-Man was the one taking the beating from Juggernaut and not the other way around.

Of course, I do not remember how that issue ended.