Uncanny X-Force 03: Wolverine vs Death, one of the "Final Horsemen"
A nice showing for Wolverine's will power and determination. He starts the fight with "Bubonic Consumption, Black Plague and Pox," and quickly has his healing factor shut down and over whelmed with every terminal disease in history of man simultaneously. It is a testament to Wolverine's never say die attitude that he was still alive, let alone able to move. I didn't win, but he never gave up.
You know, honstly I think that C was sold way short in that fight. However, demon-Wolverine was packing some additional powers such as fire-breathing and it even appears like he has telekentically pinned Kitty to the ceiling. I don't know what he did to archangles eyes but I can only assume he clawed them out.
He also talks about C's blood as if it's normal human blood. He doesn't refere to it as liquid metal or anything. He just says where there's blood there's soft-squishy parts. And then cuts C up like nothin'. Personally, I would have liked to seen a more back-and-forth battle and have it so that when Logan stabs Pete, there's blood but it's liquid metal. The organs get damaged but it's to only a fraction of what it would be if he was human. In other words, it would take Wolverine some serious time to actually cut C to the point where he was mortally wounding C. In the meantime, C would land some good blows and they would both be pretty messed up. That would have been a more satisfying fight. Even though I know very little about C and haven't read any classic Uncanny comics, it feels like they sold him short.
I still woulda had Logan come on top..although the battle would have been much more even and longer.
Originally posted by Mr.MxyzptlkWhen Pete Wisdom stabbed Colossus it was shown that Colossus has a metal spine and that his whole body was made of steel. As far as I know that was only the 2nd time Colossus was written with red blood.
Just chiming in, Green Scar Hulk broke Colossus' arms to the point that metal was peeled back from his forearms and bits were breaking off. There was no sign of any kind of bleeding from Piotr and they even used a laser in order to soften his body so they could re-straighten his arms.Edit: Also you may just dismiss it, but when Calvin Rankin was copying Colossus and got really messed up he wasn't bleeding and he was pretty gutted if memory serves right.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
things like this make me wonder if writers go on kmc. Honestly does anyone else think that may have been done on purpose, in order to disprove a notion from another tussle these to have had?
Well you can go and ask Aaron if he's been to this place he's on another forum
would'nt be surprised if he does'nt even know of the place.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what forum?
Originally posted by ankur29
Even Jackie chan is unexperienced in combat compared to Logan:
Isn't that kind of a "duh" though? Logan is at his oldest 120, which is over twice Jackie Chan's age and is a Class 7 martial artist (while I'd put Jackie at his lowest as Class 5, maybe Class 4). It'd be embarrassing if Logan was that old and fought, trained and trained under the people he did and wasn't a better fighter than Jackie Chan.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Isn't that kind of a "duh" though? Logan is at his oldest 120, which is over twice Jackie Chan's age and is a Class 7 martial artist (while I'd put Jackie at his lowest as Class 5, maybe Class 4). It'd be embarrassing if Logan was that old and fought, trained and trained under the people he did and [b]wasn't a better fighter than Jackie Chan. [/B]
My thoughts exactly. What exactly is a class 7 martial artist? Can I find references to this in any official Marvel guide?
anyone find it funny that a scan of colossus arm breaking is being used to discredit wolevrine cutting him and making him bleed. Yet when spiderman among others characters broke there arms, they did not blood either, does that mean they don't have a form of blood now either lol? Also people dont seem to grasp the fact that breaking a bone = does not equal blood lose. In fact I broken several bones and rarely has there been any blood let a lone enough to warrent depiction in a comic lol.
Originally posted by Kazenji
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Why does it matter? His arm can be broken - he feels pain. His insides can be cut..which means they are damaged as if they are squishy and human. You break the metal...you cause pain as if you broke bone. You cut metal organs..you cause damage as if you cut normal organs...the only difference is he would bleed liquid metal..or even if he didn't bleed metal, the damage Logan was doing would be enough to possibly kill Colossus...even if there was no bleeding just internal damge.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Why does it matter? His arm can be broken - he feels pain. His insides can be cut..which means they are damaged as if they are squishy and human. You break the metal...you cause pain as if you broke bone. You cut metal organs..you cause damage as if you cut normal organs...the only difference is he would bleed liquid metal..or even if he didn't bleed metal, the damage Logan was doing would be enough to possibly kill Colossus...even if there was no bleeding just internal damge.
I not sure why people believe that colossus is magically different then Thing. Having metal bones, does not mean you can't be harmed or that you dont have a form of blood. Thing interior is very much like his exterior, and he still possess a form of blood as well as internal organs there simply much denser. This would also be true of colossus, but people like to magically pretend other wise despite the complete lack of evidence. They hang to the idea that colossus having metal bones some how means he lacks internal organs or weak points which is rather absurd and baseless.
actually the fact they make the point to state he organic metal meaning he living metal, suggested strongly he possess things like organs, blood ect, but simply made out of metal substance.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
more or less my thoughts.I not sure why people believe that colossus is magically different then Thing. Having metal bones, does not mean you can't be harmed or that you dont have a form of blood. Thing interior is very much like his exterior, and he still possess a form of blood as well as internal organs there simply much denser. This would also be true of colossus, but people like to magically pretend other wise despite the complete lack of evidence. They hang to the idea that colossus having metal bones some how means he lacks internal organs or weak points which is rather absurd and baseless.
actually the fact they make the point to state he organic metal meaning he living metal, suggested strongly he possess things like organs, blood ect, but simply made out of metal substance.
Right..also, the fact that he screamed in pain when that robot broke his arm...if he can be hurt, he can be injured..if he can be injured, he can die. There is no reason why a direct claw strike through C's skull wouldn't result in instant death.
