Blade vs. Captain America

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's making the assumption that he took out the vial after Wolverine pinned him. We don't know when he took it out, all we know is that he had it when he said "I may be half-vampire, but I ain't dead."

... and besides, I doubt he was carrying it in his shoe.

If you look at the panels he didn't have it in one and the next he had it. So he had it concealed where he could reach it. Just like he just as easily could have concealed a silver stake or knife.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If you look at the panels he didn't have it in one and the next he had it. So he had it concealed where he could reach it. Just like he just as easily could have concealed a silver stake or knife.

I'll give you that it doesn't look like he has the needle in the previous panel, but it is such a poor drawing it is hard to be sure.

Anyway Blade is wearing a leather jacket (where the sleaves tapper in around the wrists) and leather pants. Not exactly made for easy access to concealed weaponry.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... Christ.

Wolverine was holding back on Duncan until very end. He was responcible for the deaths of 300 people (mostly children) and Wolverine want to beat him up before he killed him... and he did.

Wolverine was holding back against Caliban... unless you think he was planning on killing a friend of the X-Men?

Wolverine was holding back against Nuke. He was trying to redeem him self for his responsibility in Nuke's creation, he was trying to save him. Once he realised that Nuke couldn't be saved he decided to be merciful and end his suffering... I'm pretty sure this was all in the captions of the fight.

Since Wolverine never had any intention of killing Captain America... he was holding back.

Wolverine held off on the final blow with Shingen so he could insult a man he hates.... than promptly killed him.

Wolverine punched Azrael first then he took out his claws and used them... until he decided to cut himself a deal. Not the same as his fight with Blade where he had his claws out, then conciously made the decision put them away.

Blade doesn't "vamp out".

no he wasnt holding back on duncan, in fact in the second panel, wolverine already had his claws drawn to kill him

wolverine was attacking him and gave hi ma wound that almost killed CA, no wolverine wasnt holding back

and yes blade does vamp out, to say that you have no knowledge of the character at all

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Only, it wasn't a compromising position. Wolverine was in full control of the situation, so much so that he stopped fighting and allowed Blade time to talk. If he felt Blade was a threat he would have stabbed him the moment he pinned him instead of chatting it up, but the fact is Wolverine wasn't concerned in the slightest... he wasn't even worried about Blade turning him into a vampire. Wolverine never had any intention of killing Blade, he pinned him and waited for the situation to resolve its self... and it did.

And once again: Even if Blade had decided to go through with his plan and Vamp. Wolverine... Wolverine would still be holding all the advantages he had before (he was on top of an unarmed opponent), only he would now be a vampire... and would be stronger and faster than before... and would have a bloodlust.

....no he didnt none of those in the scans,

he gave deadpool time (in their fight he stabbed deadpool i nthe gut, and gave deadpool plenty of time to shoot him i nthe head, and before that he pinned deadpool and gave deadpool time to throw grenades)

in all of hte fights presented heeither uses regular punches or waits before delivering the final blow. he was in n oway holding back

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....no he didnt none of those in the scans,

he gave deadpool time (in their fight he stabbed deadpool i nthe gut, and gave deadpool plenty of time to shoot him i nthe head, and before that he pinned deadpool and gave deadpool time to throw grenades)

in all of hte fights presented heeither uses regular punches or waits before delivering the final blow. he was in n oway holding back

Wolverine wanted to lose to Deadpool. Wolverine knew Daken was watching him and wouldn't let anyone else kill him. Wolverine hired Deadpool and lost the fight in order to draw Daken out of hiding.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no he wasnt holding back on duncan, in fact in the second panel, wolverine already had his claws drawn to kill him

wolverine was attacking him and gave hi ma wound that almost killed CA, no wolverine wasnt holding back

and yes blade does vamp out, to say that you have no knowledge of the character at all

Wolverine kicked him in the groin, he didn't give Dacon his "Captain America blood-clot" attack.

Blade doesn't vamp-out. His fangs retract, but it has no baring on his strength or speed.

I'm gonna give my 2 cents again on this. If Blade intended to kill Logan he would have used the vial instantly imo. I think it's safe to assume neither intended to kill the other. However I do think they both were giving effort. Wolverine was "grrrring" and swearing during the fight and Blade used a gun. Not sure why though as guns don't usually do nothing to Logan.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine kicked him in the groin, he didn't give Dacon his "Captain America blood-clot" attack.

Blade doesn't vamp-out. His fangs retract, but it has no baring on his strength or speed.

....yes it pretty much does, he calls it a mad-on, it pretty much increases his stats. and again blade was weakened he hadnt had blood in months

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....yes it pretty much does, he calls it a mad-on, it pretty much increases his stats. and again blade was weakened he hadnt had blood in months

No he doesn't... unless we are assuming every time Wolverine kicks someone, he is causes them to hemorrhage and send a blot clot into their heart. Pretty big leap of faith considering it was never even hinted that he did anything like that against Duncan.

Not sure what you are talking about regarding a "mad-on"...

Wolverine says he is going to kill Duncan. Duncan says "If you are going to murder me, make it quick." Wolverine says "It won't be murder - it will be retribution (or something like that) and it sure as hell won't be quick." That's why he sheathed his claws. He said he was going to kill Duncan, and he wasn't going to give him a one shot mercy death, so he worked him over with his fists first.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If he was as skilled as he supposed to be... he never would let himself get into a situation where he holds all the advantages against an unarmed, pinned opponent who is inferior in every way?
...wolverine didnt have all the advantages at all, wolverine got him the same way, blade punched him off the fight tie, wolverine got ontop of him again wolverine drew his calws wovlerine drew the vial simple as that

both of the mwere ven, wolverine didnt let blade stab him at all "and if he did he is the worst tactile mind in marvel"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No he doesn't... unless we are assuming every time Wolverine kicks someone, he is causes them to hemorrhage and send a blot clot into their heart. Pretty big leap of faith considering it was never even hinted that he did anything like that against Duncan.

Not sure what you are talking about regarding a "mad-on"...

Wolverine says he is going to kill Duncan. Duncan says "If you are going to murder me, make it quick." Wolverine says "It won't be murder - it will be retribution (or something like that) and it sure as hell won't be quick." That's why he sheathed his claws. He said he was going to kill Duncan, and he wasn't going to give him a one shot mercy death, so he worked him over with his fists first.

he said that before he took the drugs and became a threat, which is why wolverine unsheathed his claws after he took the pillsand when he tackled him wolverine even aimed for his back with the calws before the y both plummeted out of the window, so no he wasnt holding back.

mad-on = blade getting pissed and getting stronger

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He had a stake in his boot when he was fighting Dracula... he also had stakes strapped to ever part of his body in that fight as well. I don't see why he would conceal a single stake in his shoe and bare his sword and guns for all to see. Boot stake wouldn't have helped in that situation anyway.
blade could simply punch wolverine off like the first time wolverine jumped on him

and blade said he oculdve staked him he wouldve staked him, not that he would need too

it wouldve been as simply as taking to objects and making them into a cross and wolverine would be dust

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...wolverine didnt have all the advantages at all, wolverine got him the same way, blade punched him off the fight tie, wolverine got ontop of him again wolverine drew his calws wovlerine drew the vial simple as that

both of the mwere ven, wolverine didnt let blade stab him at all "and if he did he is the worst tactile mind in marvel"

Wolverine was on top and had leverage. Advantage. Wolverine still had his weapons, Blade had none. Advantage. Wolverine held ever advantage, because Blade - you know - didn't have a single one.

Wolverine has a healing factor - he let's people stab him all the time. It's good for A) intimidation B) disarming your opponent and C) exposing an opening in your opponent's guard.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's making the assumption that he took out the vial after Wolverine pinned him. We don't know when he took it out, all we know is that he had it when he said "I may be half-vampire, but I ain't dead."

... and besides, I doubt he was carrying it in his shoe.

could easily be carrying a stake i his other pocket, especially since he threated wolveirne with a stake

blade is actually one of the few characters who can put wolverine down for good

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade could simply punch wolverine off like the first time wolverine jumped on him

The only "punch" in the fight that doesn't even have a sound affect; strange huh? I wouldn't be surprised if that punch didn't even hit Wolverine. Anyway, assuming it did actually connect - Wolverine rolled with it, got under Blade's guard an pinned him. From the position Blade was in at the end of that fight, his punches would do next to do damage since he can't get any strength or body weight into the blows. Wolverine on the other hand could ground and pound Blade into submission easily from that position. Regular Human MMA can dole out more than a ton of force with ever blow from that position, imagine the kind of damage Wolverine - a guy who weighs more, is far stronger, exponential more skilled and has an adamantium skeleton - would do by comparison?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
could easily be carrying a stake i his other pocket, especially since he threated wolveirne with a stake

blade is actually one of the few characters who can put wolverine down for good

Anyone see any pockets on that jacket? And if he had a stake in the pockets of his skin tight leather pants.... we'd know about it.

Blade isn't one of the character's who can kill Wolverine. He isn't even one of the character's that can give Wolverine a decent fight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Anyone see any pockets on that jacket? And if he had a stake in the pockets of his skin tight leather pants.... we'd know about it.

Blade isn't one of the character's who can kill Wolverine. He isn't even one of the character's that can give Wolverine a decent fight.

😕 which is why they stalemated

and I supposed blade has a new make vials appear out of thin air powers? yes he has pockets.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
he said that before he took the drugs and became a threat, which is why wolverine unsheathed his claws after he took the pillsand when he tackled him wolverine even aimed for his back with the calws before the y both plummeted out of the window, so no he wasnt holding back.

mad-on = blade getting pissed and getting stronger

You think Wolverine changed his mind because some yuppie decided to juice up with MGH? 🙄

That happens to everyone, it's called Adrenalin.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
😕 which is why they stalemated

and I supposed blade has a new make vials appear out of thin air powers? yes he has pockets.

... Nothing I said could possibly interpreted as a reason for them stalemating; because they didn't stalemate - and I'm not making things up. 😎

Maybe he had it up his sleeve? Who knows. Based on the drawings he has as many pockets as Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You think Wolverine changed his mind because some yuppie decided to juice up with MGH? 🙄

That happens to everyone, it's called Adrenalin.

very different, he instantly became a human with apparent super strength and durability, and you noticed how wolverine was warning him to b careful, if he didnt want to use his claws he wouldnt have drawn them. he planeed on using them. and in plenty of other pictures he again

uses attacks with claws (attack against caliban comes to mind)

and waits to deliver the final blow