Originally posted by Marvelknight
That is a low showing that you are trying to use as proof. When there has been more times where Superman has taken far more punishment and not be KOed.
So every time that superman get one shotted, its a low showing. Well he has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of low showings out there, just ask doctor light. Im not even going to name the bricks that have one shotted him, I'll lose count.
Originally posted by MarvelknightSupes has speed over Hulk. Supes can also be ko'd by other character as talked about in this thread. While WW Hulk was taking everything that Sentry threw at him. He wasnt ko'd. Like I have said before this was WW Hulk not even at his most powerful.
If Superman wanted to, WWH wouldn't land a single blow. Not to mention that Supes has the power to put WWH down. There are too many advantages Supes has over WWH. And you're giving WWH 8/10 noway.
Supes can be ko'd and we have seen it on panel while we havent seen anyone rock WW Hulk the way that Superman has been rocked.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Hurt? Of course he was hurt, that's why he was bleeding, but it wasn’t anything serious. He took Hawkman out and then kept fighting. Saying he Hawkman almost took his head off, is an exaggeration, considering all Hawkman did was knock some of this teeth out.Then why bring it up? Why even claim that he soloed the JLA?
When was it mentioned that the League was told not to hold back, when did the League claim they weren't holding back? It was said that League were testing her, and not going easy on her, but they did not go all out on her. And in order to claim that she soloed the League, she would have had to actually defeat them, not stop fighting after Superman fired a gun at her. Wally even mentioned that
I asked you for who soloed the JLA, not who [b]could
have soloed them. Furthermore, Virtue and Vice Despero was shown to be significantly stronger than the likes of Superman, Captain Marvel, etc. The argument you were trying to make is that people weaker than World War Hulk have consistently taken out the JLA, but I do not believe that Virtue and Vice Despero is weaker than the WWH, as he was doing well against a team consisting of Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Kyle Rayner, Alan Scott, Wally, Jay, Dr. Fate, and Power Girl. He was only defeated when the two Lanterns used Johnny Sorrow.You seem to be ignoring the fact that he had prep, and that he took out the majority of the League one on one, and relied on exploiting their weaknesses. You seemed to have missed what I was getting at. You brought up Despero, saying he was weaker than World War Hulk, and that he defeated the JLA. Your whole argument has been about people weaker than WWH taking out the League, but brining up Prometheus, who took on the JLA with prep, and not sheer physical power, is a moot point.
Uh, no. He also fried Martian Manhunter, fired energy beams, and might have used telepathy, I can’t remember if it was in his first or second fight that he used his telepathy.
I do not consider Hunter/Prey Doomsday to be weaker than WWH. I do consider DOS Doomsday to be weaker than WWH, but the League he fought was quite weak. The only heavy hitters were Bloodwynd and Maxima. If I recall correctly, the two of them never fought him at the same time.
He nearly killed Batman and Huntress. That’s about it. And in World War III he didn’t find them alone.
So Deathstroke just happened to have landmines planted right near him? Deathstroke had prep. He was prepared to the fact the JLA, as Dr. Light had hired him to protect him from the JLA.
What you referring to?
Grundy taking out the JLA? Which you haven’t backed up.
Or
Deathstroke taking out some of the other Leaguers before they had a chance to use their powers? Because if it’s the latter, then there’s some PIS involved. [/B]
Thats the point that Im trying to get at, despero wasnt as durable as you think he is if hawk man was able to literally hurt him with a mace. Savage Hulk has taken on the avengers tagged alone with doctor strange and some of the xmen and was basically ignoring there attacks but I still think WWH>>Savage hulk. Despero did nothing to make me think that he was greater then WWh. Hell, titus took punches, heat vision, lasso, etc.. from the jla but batman made him fall to his knees with well place batarangs and grenades.
Your right, I shouldnt have brought up mongul. I give you points for that.
If youre trying to test someone ability, why would they hold back against wonderwoman, just dont make any sense.
I consider despero weaker then wwh because he hasnt done anything on panel to make me think that hes superior in any way. Just because he took on the league dont make me think other wise because as a team the jla has a bad track record but again Hulk previous incarnations has taken on multiple of teams of heavy hitters but none of the other hulks possess the power or stamina that wwh has.
So titus used these attacks through his entire encounter with the jla or did he majority of the time physically out fight the jla?
What feats does hunter/prey doomsday have that put him above wwh because I sure as hell cant think of any lifting feats. When I see hunter/prey hold a planet together with nothing but pure strength then maybe I would even consider him close to being on wwh level but until then hulk>doomsday.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes has speed over Hulk. Supes can also be ko'd by other character as talked about in this thread. While WW Hulk was taking everything that Sentry threw at him. He wasnt ko'd. Like I have said before this was WW Hulk not even at his most powerful.Supes can be ko'd and we have seen it on panel while we havent seen anyone rock WW Hulk the way that Superman has been rocked.
very true
Originally posted by KutuluGlad to see you back.
This is how Superman would do against WWH:http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428455/Trinity03-009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428456/Trinity03-012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428457/Trinity03-013.jpg.html
Why didnt you answer my pms on herochat. 😕
What comic is this from I must download it?
Originally posted by Kutulu
This is how Superman would do against WWH:http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428455/Trinity03-009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428456/Trinity03-012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428457/Trinity03-013.jpg.html
weep
The sad thing is, I agree.
So thats your facts for hulk beating superman...whats your proof hulk is as strong as konvikt?that they are both big so they must both be able to knock superman out?gtfo,should I start bringing up every single low end feat hulk has?how about a snake strangling him? cis and pis happens in comics not on a forum fight,in a forum fight hulk will be blitzed he wont ever hit superman and superman will toss hulk into space.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
So thats your facts for hulk beating superman...whats your proof hulk is as strong as konvikt?that they are both big so they must both be able to knock superman out?gtfo,should I start bringing up every single low end feat hulk has?how about a snake strangling him? cis and pis happens in comics not on a forum fight,in a forum fight hulk will be blitzed he wont ever hit superman and superman will toss hulk into space.
Do me a favor, prove that konvikt is even stronger then a calm savage hulk and yes regular calm savage hulk did get strangled by a snake but is this debate about savage hulk or wwh. Give me a low end feat that goes against wwh.
By the way that team of jla that convict fought<<the team of xmen that WWh fought. The only a lister in that group was firestorm and flash, the rest had peak human durability.
Do you think konvikt would have done so well if Juggernaut was there. They would still be fighting right now if juggernaut took superman place.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
So thats your facts for hulk beating superman...whats your proof hulk is as strong as konvikt?that they are both big so they must both be able to knock superman out?gtfo,should I start bringing up every single low end feat hulk has?how about a snake strangling him? cis and pis happens in comics not on a forum fight,in a forum fight hulk will be blitzed he wont ever hit superman and superman will toss hulk into space.
By the way I can use hawk man one shotting him, despero one shotting him or titus one shotting him not once but twice.
Originally posted by Kutulu
This is how Superman would do against WWH:http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428455/Trinity03-009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428456/Trinity03-012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/428457/Trinity03-013.jpg.html
Lmao, this loser is back?
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
So thats your facts for hulk beating superman...whats your proof hulk is as strong as konvikt?that they are both big so they must both be able to knock superman out?gtfo,should I start bringing up every single low end feat hulk has?how about a snake strangling him? cis and pis happens in comics not on a forum fight,in a forum fight hulk will be blitzed he wont ever hit superman and superman will toss hulk into space.
Vlaaad12345 I have yet to see your median, when it comes to discussing any character from Marvel vs DC. For you it is always a stompfest for the heros of DC. Which leads me to think that most people should only take what you say with a grain of salt, or flat out dismiss it as spam.
Konvikt is clearly less poweful than King Hulk, simple feats have shown us this fact. Like I said before neither King Hulk, or Superman is going to be bowling each other over with relative ease. King Hulk has more than shown that he can deal with heat ray visison, by being able to take the combined assault of but Storm's lightning and Johnny Storm's Nova blast.
He has also shown to be capable of reacting to a speed blitz from Sentry, and countering his blitz. Konvikt stomped on the ground throwing Flash out of his speed blitz, The Hulk stomped and nearly knocked the helicopters out of the sky as well as nearly tearing the eastern seabord off.
Black Canary Screams at Konvikt while Skrull Black Bolt screamed at King Hulk. The Skrull aapeared to have a more powerful blast radius as it slammed King Hulk through a mountain, Canary failed to take a building down with her scream. In fact it appears that the little guy on his shoulder was also able to take her full scream.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Vlaaad12345 I have yet to see your median, when it comes to discussing any character from Marvel vs DC. For you it is always a stompfest for the heros of DC. Which leads me to think that most people should only take what you say with a grain of salt, or flat out dismiss it as spam.Konvikt is clearly less poweful than King Hulk, simple feats have shown us this fact. Like I said before neither King Hulk, or Superman is going to be bowling each other over with relative ease. King Hulk has more than shown that he can deal with heat ray visison, by being able to take the combined assault of but Storm's lightning and Johnny Storm's Nova blast.
He has also shown to be capable of reacting to a speed blitz from Sentry, and countering his blitz. Konvikt stomped on the ground throwing Flash out of his speed blitz, The Hulk stomped and nearly knocked the helicopters out of the sky as well as nearly tearing the eastern seabord off.
Black Canary Screams at Konvikt while Skrull Black Bolt screamed at King Hulk. The Skrull aapeared to have a more powerful blast radius as it slammed King Hulk through a mountain, Canary failed to take a building down with her scream. In fact it appears that the little guy on his shoulder was also able to take her full scream.
Good post and by the way konvikt was hurt by black canary blast but wwh walked through black bolts blast without any problem.
Originally posted by carver9
Thats the point that Im trying to get at, despero wasnt as durable as you think he is if hawk man was able to literally hurt him with a mace. Savage Hulk has taken on the avengers tagged alone with doctor strange and some of the xmen and was basically ignoring there attacks but I still think WWH>>Savage hulk. Despero did nothing to make me think that he was greater then WWh. Hell, titus took punches, heat vision, lasso, etc.. from the jla but batman made him fall to his knees with well place batarangs and grenades.Your right, I shouldnt have brought up mongul. I give you points for that.
If youre trying to test someone ability, why would they hold back against wonderwoman, just dont make any sense.
I consider despero weaker then wwh because he hasnt done anything on panel to make me think that hes superior in any way. Just because he took on the league dont make me think other wise because as a team the jla has a bad track record but again Hulk previous incarnations has taken on multiple of teams of heavy hitters but none of the other hulks possess the power or stamina that wwh has.
So titus used these attacks through his entire encounter with the jla or did he majority of the time physically out fight the jla?
What feats does hunter/prey doomsday have that put him above wwh because I sure as hell cant think of any lifting feats. When I see hunter/prey hold a planet together with nothing but pure strength then maybe I would even consider him close to being on wwh level but until then hulk>doomsday.
WWH>Doomsday? 🤨 H/P DD beatdown a Darkseid avatar. He bitchslapped Waverider and a Motherbox amped Superman. He murdered the Radiant. He blitzed his way through Apokolips tech.
Doomsday was almost unstoppable in that storyline. He even rezzed from the Omega beams. He also blitzed Superman among others. Nothing in Hulk's entire history gives him a prayer against that version of DD. Hell, his bone spurs went through Superman like butter. Hulk is nowhere near that durable.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
WWH>>>>>>>>>>>>Doomsday?
Fixed. Darkseid avatars don't mean shit. If you could prove it was the real Darkseid, then maybe you would have something there. Superman is a pussy, WWH would have snapped his arm like a twig too. The only reason Doomsday seemed unstoppable in that storyline was because he didn't go against anybody that was tough enough. Look what happened later on when he went against a real challenge like Imperiex - got vaporized into smoking bones in one shot. H/P Doomsday is highly overrated.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Fixed. Darkseid avatars don't mean shit. If you could prove it was the real Darkseid, then maybe you would have something there. Superman is a pussy, WWH would have snapped his arm like a twig too. The only reason Doomsday seemed unstoppable in that storyline was because he didn't go against anybody that was tough enough. Look what happened later on when he went against a real challenge like Imperiex - got vaporized into smoking bones in one shot. H/P Doomsday is highly overrated.
.........................Imperiex Prime was the big bang incarnate and possesed the full power of Entropy as well. 🤨 You are completely out of your mind if you think WWH would do better. 😐
