horrorwolf
Incarnation of Infinity
Originally posted by Rorschach
Sure, if Thor’s actually said that. But there’s a difference between faster than one expects you to be and actually being fast. The Hulk is fast for someone his size, and he does appear to have some minor super-speed, but it’s nowhere near as fast someone like Superman. Comparing the Hulk’s speed to Superman’s speed, is like comparing Spider-Man’s speed to the Flash’s speed. There’s just too big of a difference.
The issue is really not If Superman is faster than the Hulk. No Hulk has ever moved at running speeds Superman has been clocked at (vs Flash for instance). And for obvious reasons (Hulk can't Fly) Superman is capable of traveling at FTL speed - beyond what Hulk is capable of.
But where is really comes down to is a few things no one has been capable of proving:
1. Superman is very vulnerable to Hulk level assaults: Dispite the denial of Superman fans, he taken severe beatings by the likes of Mongul, Grundy, Titus, Graak and obviously Doomsday. All of which are easily under Hulk's strength level both in history and feat-wise. Not only that, but Hulk's powerset is constantly GROWING strength.
And we are actually talking about WWH here...who in world breaker mode was ripping up the seaboard with a footstep (not even trying) - this is still beyond anything any of Superman's opponents were ever capable of.
There is no doubt WWH is more powerful than those guys....and even if you dont think so, you can not deny that he would surpass them due to dynamic strength over the course of a fight.
2. Hulk always responds well to speed attacks. He generally either directly counters speed assaults, or takes them full on and then counters. He has taken the best shots in comic from the likes of Abomination Gladiator, Juggernaut, Sentry, Thor, the Silver Surfer, and Thanos ....and none have even so much have been able to effectively harm him whatsoever.
And again thats Savage Hulk.....WWH is a different animal.
This may be due to his enhanced reflexes or enhanced senses but a pissed Hulk has stunned opponents who consider him a slug time and time again. Speed Blitz vs Hulk = fail. He responds very well to speed attacks and counters with nothing but growing levels of devastation.
3. Superman has a poor record of avoiding a toe-to-toe fight, which I attribute to his fighting style. If he can't take enemies down with flight, HV and freeze breath...he generally resorts to going toe to toe. There is simply no great battle speed advantage really shown when it come to dealing the kind of blows needed to effect Hulk types.
If he is truly faster, he should never get hit ever by the likes of Mongul and Grundy. But it happens all the time so yes speed wont be a factor with Hulk either.
Superman will eventually have go blow for blow with World War Hulk and try to hold his own. This will be his undoing. World War Hulk who is already on his level would only get stronger, angrier, and with his growing endurance will eventually take Superman down.