Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Originally posted by carver9
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Why are you arguing with a guy that knows jack about hulk if he truly think that heat vision is going to stop him.

I wonder sometimes. I think people get pissed that Hulk really has withstood what Superman has to offer many times over.(AND AS SAVAGE HULK)

Gladiator's HV is said to be equivalent to Supermans. It failed.
Hulk's durabilty has easily resisted anti-matter, disentegration, far below -250 temperatures, vast nuclear and electrical strikes. Even Human Torchs' supernova failed....along with Icemans subtemperature attacks.

That crap just wont do any damage to Hulk whatsoever...much less to World War Hulk....well, I retract that, as it might server to make him angrier and more powerful.

Originally posted by Soljer
http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/ShutTheHellUpCarver/?start=all

It wasn't a joke. It's actually a photobucket.

Thanks for the scans soldier, it took me about a hour to look at all of them.

90% of the scans are flight speed and there was one that looked great and was a good showing but it was still combat speed.
http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/ShutTheHellUpCarver/?action=view&current=AA11BlitzSteal2Krpytonians1.jpg

I didnt see anything that made me think that hulk couldnt go fist for fist but you did convince me that superman would get the 1st lick.

I think that supes would win if he went all out like full blown power right at the get go(he also lacks the skill to really put his abilities to use). But seeing as he wont because he charcter is too test the water first and hes not bloodlusted. I think that by the time he realizes that he should go all out Hulk will be too far down his amping process so after i long fight i see world war hulk winning.

o and by the way dont compare gladiator to supes or sentry. because anytime gladiator shows up he's there to lose like always.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
WWH isn't beating Supes for the majority imo. I really don't understand why Supes is being doubted in this battle. He has so much versatility, so much speed, and years of feats to put him over WWH. It is not a question in my mind that Superman will put down WWH.

He that isn't being doubted, its just that WWH is easily on par with him at the start of this battle. I dont doubt Superman woudnt give it his all, its just that Hulk has already faced his all (equivalent attacks)from various opponents, superhumans and cosmic entities many times before....and brushed them off.

As mentioned, Superman fails to ever put any such "speed advantages" to use vs the likes of Kalibak, Lobo, Mongul, Grundy Batman, Metallo, Graak and even Toyman...speed just either isn't a factor....or he simply chooses not to utilize it in most fights.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
I wonder sometimes. I think people get pissed that Hulk really has withstood what Superman has to offer many times over.

Gladiator's HV is said to be equivalent to Supermans. It failed.
Hulk's durabilty has easily resisted anti-matter, disentegration, far below -250 temperatures, vast nuclear and electrical strikes. Even Human Torchs' supernova failed....along with Icemans subtemperature attacks.

That crap just wont do any damage to Hulk whatsoever...much less to World War Hulk....well, I retract that, as it might server to make him angrier and more powerful.

I know, they post superman respect thread telling people that they need to go there and learn things about superman if you think that hulk has a chance against him. Throughout that entire thread superman it even proves further that bricks have a good chance against superman because it shows consistently superman going fist to fist with bricks.

Superman is gong to realize that he is going to have to fight hulk h2h when he realize that he other powers isnt doing anything to the hulk and thats when hulk would basically take advantage of superman. They also forgot that if superman attack air borne that hulk also has the ability to jump up there and grab superman out of the air.

Im not a hulk fan but I dont doubt his ability and in a fight like this I would give him 8/10. If it was someone like silver surfer who has other exotic powers with his power cosmic I would give him a majority over hulk.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I think that supes would win if he went all out like full blown power right at the get go(he also lacks the skill to really put his abilities to use). But seeing as he wont because he charcter is too test the water first and hes not bloodlusted. I think that by the time he realizes that he should go all out Hulk will be too far down his amping process so after i long fight i see world war hulk winning.

o and by the way dont compare gladiator to supes or sentry. because anytime gladiator shows up he's there to lose like always.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I think that supes would win if he went all out like full blown power right at the get go(he also lacks the skill to really put his abilities to use). But seeing as he wont because he charcter is too test the water first and hes not bloodlusted. I think that by the time he realizes that he should go all out Hulk will be too far down his amping process so after i long fight i see world war hulk winning.

o and by the way dont compare gladiator to supes or sentry. because anytime gladiator shows up he's there to lose like always.

Good post because its something in this post that was so true that you said and it was this "he also lacks the skill to really put his abilities to use". Overall good post.

Darkseid is far more powerful than Supes from the beginning of any fight. It hasn't stop Supes from defeating him. So WWH strength will keep growing. And all Supes has to do is take to the skies towards the sun light. or better yet bring WWH in the sun its self and finsh this.

Originally posted by carver9
Im not a hulk fan but I dont doubt his ability and in a fight like this I would give him 8/10. If it was someone like silver surfer who has other exotic powers with his power cosmic I would give him a majority over hulk.

I agree...people who know how to outsmart Hulk pwn Hulk. Either by tricking and calming him, or are capable of cutting him off his source of gamma such as Surfer.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Darkseid is far more powerful than Supes from the beginning of any fight. it hasn't stop Supes from defeating him. So WWH strength will keep growing. And all Supes has to do is take to the skies towards the sun light. or better yet bring WWH in the sun its self and finsh this.

You do realize that WWH>>Darkseid physically, by the way you do know that darkseid has physically beat superman on numerous of occasions.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
I agree...people who know how to outsmart Hulk pwn Hulk. Either by tricking and calming him, or are capable of cutting him off his source of gamma such as Surfer.

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Originally posted by jalek moye
by the way dont compare gladiator to supes or sentry. because anytime gladiator shows up he's there to lose like always.

IMO gladiator as a fighter doesnt compare to Superman...especially by W/L record.

But Gladiator's flight speed, combat speed and HV is on par with Superman's. Glad's HV is said to be hotter than the core of our Sun.

The reason I used him to to show Hulk's (Savage Hulk that is) resistance to his powers. Its irrelevant to me if you dont like it but these abilities just had little effect vs Savage Hulk.

What really annoys me is the fact that everyone likes to say that Clark is a tank. No, he's not. 😬

Superman can tank, hell, he tanks with the best of them, but he's also a smart and tactical fighter. For a so-called limited powerset, he does some ingenius things with it. Superman is a genius when it comes to using his powerset and he commonly demonstrates more versatility than most heralds.

And guys? You are rediculously lowballing the Heat Vision. He's punched through a white dwarf star with it. shock And unlike Superman, Hulk can't tank the sun. Guess what? Heat Vision is substantially hotter than the sun at full power. Hell, he's used heat vision to power a planet moving engine, and this was under a red sun. ❌

Some really cheap Superman ripp offs made by Marvel are not as good as the real Superman. He did (inoffcial it may be) beat Thor and Hulk and he would do it again.
The heroes from DC are generally more powerful then those from Marvel. Till WWH would reach Supermans strength he would be already down, simple as that.

But anyway, opinions might differ, and threads like this are about opinions, though we ma consider an Superman 2:0 Hulk, not officially but still the best we have 😉.

I think Wonder Woman might be an better opponent for WWH, she beat the Juggernaut, she would probably beat WWH too but it would be more interesting.

Originally posted by carver9
You do realize that WWH>>Darkseid physically, by the way you do know that darkseid has physically beat superman on numerous of occasions.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What really annoys me is the fact that everyone likes to say that Clark is a tank. No, he's not. 😬

Superman can tank, hell, he tanks with the best of them, but he's also a smart and tactical fighter. For a so-called limited powerset, he does some ingenius things with it. Superman is a genius when it comes to using his powerset and he commonly demonstrates more versatility than most heralds.

And guys? You are rediculously lowballing the Heat Vision. He's punched through a white dwarf star with it. shock And unlike Superman, Hulk can't tank the sun. Guess what? Heat Vision is substantially hotter than the sun at full power. Hell, he's used heat vision to power a planet moving engine, and this was under a red sun. ❌

If he was atleast an above average fighter he would practilly never have trouble

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Some really cheap Superman ripp offs made by Marvel are not as good as the real Superman. He did (inoffcial it may be) beat Thor and Hulk and he would do it again.
The heroes from DC are generally more powerful then those from Marvel. Till WWH would reach Supermans strength he would be already down, simple as that.

But anyway, opinions might differ, and threads like this are about opinions, though we ma consider an Superman 2:0 Hulk, not officially but still the best we have 😉.

I think Wonder Woman might be an better opponent for WWH, she beat the Juggernaut, she would probably beat WWH too but it would be more interesting.

there is no way in hell wonder woman would beat juggernaut and wwhulk is about juggs equal

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What really annoys me is the fact that everyone likes to say that Clark is a tank. No, he's not. 😬

Superman can tank, hell, he tanks with the best of them, but he's also a smart and tactical fighter. For a so-called limited powerset, he does some ingenius things with it. Superman is a genius when it comes to using his powerset and he commonly demonstrates more versatility than most heralds.

And guys? You are rediculously lowballing the Heat Vision. He's punched through a white dwarf star with it. shock And unlike Superman, Hulk can't tank the sun. Guess what? Heat Vision is substantially hotter than the sun at full power. Hell, he's used heat vision to power a planet moving engine, and this was under a red sun. ❌

He has punched through stars utilizing flight and inertia. Pretty much all of Superman's high feats are accomplished this way. Not by raw physical power.

Also for such a genious he certainly has problems dealing with a certain human named Luthor for decades.

I never said or thought Superman was a tank at all, its just when other attacks fail him, he sort of second-naturely resorts to a pure physical confrontation.

Originally posted by jalek moye
there is no way in hell wonder woman would beat juggernaut

agreed. 🙁

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Did I say that Darkseid never beat Supes? No. I said that Darkseid physical superiority hasn't stop Supes from defeating him.

To be honest, I'm not sure who would win a fistfight between the two. Superman has gotten ALOT stronger than he used to be. Still, it's a testament to how strong DS is that Superman had to have a sunamp right next to the sun to take DS in a slugfest during their last fight. S/B 40 doesn't count, DS was depowered and he had just taken a shot from Highfather's staff.