Originally posted by quanchi112Well Wonder Woman isn't the Hulk 🙁 . To take a note from horrorwolf Wonder Woman has been working with Superman for 50 plus years she should know how to stay alive when he's on the assault WWh is no Wonder Woman he knows squat about Clark he won't know or understand what hit him in this fight. Please i rather debate with horrorwolf instead of some body that kills context so much.
Hulk took his scream which would have leveled RIsland I believe and beat the piss out of him.I have seen Superman use his full power and a sunamp against WW. I think the Hulk could take everything he threw at her and smile.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Combat speed feats are always arguable - but the earliest I can remember is Sentry stopping a bullet from killing somone fired at point blank range.Now, I don't expect a new character like Sentry to have feats stacked like a character who has been in comics for over 50 years. But Sentry certainly posesses Superhuman speed. So fast in which he seemingly is capable of teleportation....which is fast as hell.
Point being Hulk has responded better to Sentry - who is far far faster than people like Solomon Grundy and Mongul (who don't even have enhanced speed) who Superman has had major trouble with.
In fact, his primary powers come from the serum he was injected with that causined each of his atoms to exist step an instant ahead of the current time line. To claim Sentry isn't insanely fast is just ignorant.
That is a good feat for the Sentry. But that's a single feat and nothing more. You have yet to bring any actual combat feats regarding Gladiator and Sentry.
Superman CAN speedblitz Mongul and Grundy to death easily, when he's fighting at the full extent of his abilities. Fights where he's not, aren't really relevant. So stop pulling them into this debate, it's conflicting with the rules.
It's not ignorant to claim that the sentry's not fast, not at all. On KMC we go by feats, simple as that.
Originally posted by iceman24567I dont care what the WW knows how to do,she cant take his punches and doesnt have the durability and the healing factor of the Hulk.
Well Wonder Woman isn't the Hulk 🙁 . To take a note from horrorwolf Wonder Woman has been working with Superman for 50 plus years she should know how to stay alive when he's on the assault WWh is no Wonder Woman he knows squat about Clark he won't know or understand what hit him in this fight. Please i rather debate with horrorwolf instead of some body that kills context so much.
You have responded to me so I will respond back. WW Hulk can take everything Superman can dish out because someone who is much weaker and has less durability survived what Superman not holding back dished out with a sun amp.
Originally posted by quanchi112Ok thats nice i rather put you on ignore than go into our usual circle have a nice day 😱 .
I dont care what the WW knows how to do,she cant take his punches and doesnt have the durability and the healing factor of the Hulk.You have responded to me so I will respond back. WW Hulk can take everything Superman can dish out because someone who is much weaker and has less durability survived what Superman not holding back dished out with a sun amp.
Originally posted by llagrokA single feat is still a feat and it shows how fast he is.
That is a good feat for the Sentry. But that's a single feat and nothing more. You have yet to bring any actual combat feats regarding Gladiator and Sentry.Superman CAN speedblitz Mongul and Grundy to death easily, when he's fighting at the full extent of his abilities. Fights where he's not, aren't really relevant. So stop pulling them into this debate, it's conflicting with the rules.
It's not ignorant to claim that the sentry's not fast, not at all. On KMC we go by feats, simple as that.
You seem to want to ignore Superman showings in favor of higher ones imo. We must look at all his showings and only through losses can we determine who wins.
Originally posted by llagrok
That is a good feat for the Sentry. But that's a single feat and nothing more. You have yet to bring any actual combat feats regarding Gladiator and Sentry.Superman CAN speedblitz Mongul and Grundy to death easily, when he's fighting at the full extent of his abilities. Fights where he's not, aren't really relevant. So stop pulling them into this debate, it's conflicting with the rules.
It's not ignorant to claim that the sentry's not fast, not at all. On KMC we go by feats, simple as that.
Its actually highly ignorant here on KMC or anywhere else -
To that claim a character than is fast enough to casually stop a bullet fired at point blank range from killing someone....is not SUPER-humanly fast.
As I mentioned, Glads and Sentry are capable of highend super-speed. Just don't pretend you are not aware. Again, you can check their respect threads if you don't believe Sentry and Gladiator have Superspeed as part of their powersets.
Originally posted by horrorwolfI agree. It shows he's reaction time is very quick to out it mildly.
Its actually highly ignorant here on KMC or anywhere else -
To that claim a character than is fast enough to stop a bullet fired at point blank range from killing someone....is not SUPER-humanly fast.
Originally posted by llagrokllagrok, this ends now. I've asked you before stop bashing. There's no excuse for the language or telling a person to kill themselves on a comic book forum. Consider yourself warned.
Quanchi, go suck cock and ****ing kill yourself.Your IQ is below par, end yourself, now.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Juggernaut, Sentry, Gladiator, Onslaught, Silver Surfer, Thanos etc. To name a few.No one has ever even come close to beating Hulk to death, whereas Superman has been pummeled too many times to mention.
actually, looking back at that list...
that isnt hulk's regular rogues gallery... thats hulk's greatest hits...
an equivalent list for superman is people like mageddon, imperiex, green lantern, black adam, etc...
Originally posted by iceman24567
I understand that but Batman has done things like that you know.
Agreed, but its not part of his base powerset. Sentry and Gladiator have those kind of super-human abilities.
Batman is capable of all sorts of things, including the ability to kill Superman but its a testament to his prep, planning, and tactical mind....thats his super power, for a mortal man....lol he should probably be called Super-Tactical-Prep Man.
Originally posted by Raoul
actually, looking back at that list...that isnt hulk's regular rogues gallery... thats hulk's greatest hits...
an equivalent list for superman is people like mageddon, imperiex, green lantern, black adam, etc...
I agree 100%. Im not taking anything from Superman's wins. What my point was - was to indicate what sort of assaults Savage Hulk has endured. None of which ever came close to being a threat in any way due to a physical assualt.
Superman however, has been beaten down and killed before, Hulk hasn't....and not anywhere close. And there's not a single person on that list Hulk couldn't surpass in Strength.