Apocalypse and Magneto vs Superman

How when an holding back doctor poloris almost killed superman in every encounter they have had?

When you answer that remember this, Magneto>>doctor poloris.

Supes can do several things to Magento, like asphyxiate him, implode his lungs (if he's blood lusted).

It's arguable, but his HV could bypass his shields given that there's examples/evidence, they work like light.

And he could probably wear down his shields with brute force, using the simplest strategy.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman.

The duo puts up a good fight, but in the end they would most likely go down.

Originally posted by Allankles
It's arguable, but his HV could bypass his shields given that there's examples/evidence, they work like light.

No

Originally posted by carver9
Mags alone can disrupt supes bio force field, blind supes or just nuke him to death, your choice.

Magneto could get a easy majority over supes IF he use his powers right and keep his force field up.

Removing his bio aura isn't an automatic win.

You do know his durability is more than just his bio aura?

He's tanked magical attacks that bypass his bio aura from dark gods and demons, even lethal magical matter transmutation without the benefit of his aura.

So it wouldn't leave a top condition KMC Supes helpless.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No

No to what? You do know light bypasses his shields? And Supes has shown that his HV can work like light, bypassing physical barriers without damaging them.

Originally posted by Allankles
No to what? You do know light bypasses his shields? And Supes has shown that his HV can work like light, bypassing physical barriers without damaging them.

Or not.

Originally posted by Allankles
Removing his bio aura isn't an automatic win.

You do know his durability is more than just his bio aura?

He's tanked magical attacks that bypass his bio aura from dark gods and demons, even lethal magical matter transmutation without the benefit of his aura.

So it wouldn't leave a top condition KMC Supes helpless.

^ in those instances was it stated that the magic negated his field leaving his body's natural durability, or was it assumed that magic did that?

it could have just weakened the field or just effect the field's wavelengths so the attacks would impact superman like a bullet leaving a massive bruise when someone wears a kevlar vest.

dd's punches did, it got even worse when superman's energy ebbed.

It's speculation given supporting evidence. And it's a fact that light bypasses Magneto's shield: common sense.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ in those instances was it stated that the magic negated his field leaving his body's natural durability, or was it assumed that magic did that?

it could have just weakened the field or just effect the field's wavelengths so the attacks would impact superman like a bullet leaving a massive bruise when someone wears a kevlar vest.

Magic is not bound by physical laws so it is able to bypass his energy shield. And yes in several instances (like the transmutation) his flesh was getting warped, but he soaked up the damage.

Originally posted by Allankles
It's speculation given supporting evidence. And it's a fact that light bypasses Magneto's shield: common sense.

Doesn't change the fact that Superman's heat vision won't go through.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Doesn't change the fact that Superman's heat vision won't go through.

That's not a fact. 😛

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Doesn't change the fact that Superman's heat vision won't go through.

Originally posted by Allankles
Magic is not bound by physical laws so it is able to bypass his energy shield. And yes in several instances (like the transmutation) his flesh was getting warped, but he soaked up the damage.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yeah, heat vision is like visible microwaves or something, magneto creates a barrier that blocks out all the wavelengths that he does not want to pass through.

Except light. I was using an instance where his HV didn't act like microwaves, but high energy light.

Originally posted by Allankles
Removing his bio aura isn't an automatic win.

You do know his durability is more than just his bio aura?

He's tanked magical attacks that bypass his bio aura from dark gods and demons, even lethal magical matter transmutation without the benefit of his aura.

So it wouldn't leave a top condition KMC Supes helpless.

So taking away his bio aura and throwing a piece of sharp metal at him at the speed of light wouldnt kill superman.

Superman has no way of beating mags with his forcefield up whereas mags has many options on the table.

He could basically just repeat what doctor poloris did to him a thousand times, beat him to death with metal until he passes out.

Originally posted by Allankles
Except light. I was using an instance where his HV didn't act like microwaves, but high energy light.

that would be like a beam of light from the sun focused through a magnifying glass. sunlight is like 100 watts per square inch, so when you focus it with a 4-5 inch magnifier into an area smaller than an inch it gets multiplied.

a beam like that is nothing against a simple microwave burst in one second, and should get refracted by the electromagnetic shield.

Originally posted by Allankles
That's not a fact. 😛

It will be once he tries to use it.

Sure thing Magneto's shields can hold up to HV, at least for some time.
Fortunately, he won't need to hold them for long.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
do you have a scan of the latter instance s'il vous plaît?

Here's the scan.

Originally posted by carver9
So taking away his bio aura and throwing a piece of sharp metal at him at the speed of light wouldnt kill superman.

No.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has no way of beating mags with his forcefield up whereas mags has many options on the table.

He has fewer options than Superman. For Mags to win, the least likely scenarios need to be put in place: as is evident by the posts in the first 2 pages of this thread.

Superman can easily asphyxiate Magento by manipulating air.