Apocalypse and Magneto vs Superman

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that would be like a beam of light from the sun focused through a magnifying glass. sunlight is like 100 watts per square inch, so when you focus it with a 4-5 inch magnifier into an area smaller than an inch it gets multiplied.

a beam like that is nothing against a simple microwave burst in one second, and should get refracted by the electromagnetic shield.

I've no doubt his electromagnetic shield can stop all soughts of electromagnetic wavelengths, but it obviously doesn't keep out the wavelenghts of light.

A being that can manipulate light can bypass any shield that doesn't keep out light, which is my point.

Originally posted by Allankles
I've no doubt his electromagnetic shield can stop all soughts of electromagnetic wavelengths, but it obviously doesn't keep out the wavelenghts of light.

A being that can manipulate light can bypass any shield that doesn't keep out light, which is my point.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magcontrolsphotons24qd.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4339/tnoticehim9ea.jpg

it obviously doesn't keep out the wavelenghts of light

Originally posted by darthgoober
Uh huh...

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magcontrolsphotons24qd.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4339/tnoticehim9ea.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Uh huh...

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6231/magcontrolsphotons0ki.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magcontrolsphotons24qd.jpg

Photons are related to electromagnetism, Mags ability. But light passess through his shields. The evidence of this is visibility, his shields clearly don't block out light otherwise he wouldn't be able to see past his shields.

A character that can manip light (specific range of electromagnetic wavelength) can easily bypass any and all shields that allow the passage of light.

Essentially energy can stream through those open passages of radiation, as hard-light or whatever high energy light manifesation.

Originally posted by Allankles
Photons are related to electromagnetism, Mags ability. But light passess through his shields. The evidence of this is visibility, his shields clearly don't block out light otherwise he wouldn't be able to see past his shields.

And in the third scan, he manipulates light to become invisible...

Originally posted by Survivor19
It's just because Eric prefers it that way. Sure he can adjust it...

As he ever?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you know what Dazzler's power is? She absorbs sound and transmutes it into LIGHT. She was shooting light at Mags, and he blocked it with his shield. Thus proving that his shield can block light.

And in the third scan, he manipulates light to become invisible...

Light is all about visible radiation, it can't be invisible. And Mags was visible, so how was light not getting through?

so we could see him?

the aquarian also totaly negates light, and he's never been depicted as a jet black figure.

Originally posted by Allankles
Light is all about visible radiation, it can't be invisible. And Mags was visible, so how was light not getting through?

Is superman heat vision invisible

Originally posted by carver9
Is superman heat vision invisible

At times, it was shown to be. But those instances, the HV isn't very powerful.

Originally posted by Allankles
Light is all about visible radiation, it can't be invisible. And Mags was visible, so how was light not getting through?

And do you know what a photon is? It's the basic unit of LIGHT...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

One would assume that incidents where Magneto blocks attacks from a person who uses LIGHT would quell any speculation that Superman can BYPASS said shield by using light.....

Originally posted by carver9
Is superman heat vision invisible

He's been known to make it invisible on occasion. His HV works across several wavelengths obviously.

Superman making his HV invisible doesnt neccessarily mean it works across multiple wavelengths of energy (which it may). He could simply be making it so small that its invisible to anyone with regular eyes.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think that light can't be invisible in a medium that features invisible people? The blasts Dazzler was shooting were light, and they didn't get through.

And do you know what a photon is? It's the basic unit of LIGHT...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

That's only part of the story. The photon is the basic unit of electromagnetic radiation period, so Mags manipulating photons should be common knowledge, obviously the writer didn't know what he was talking about because that should be the fundamentals on Mags.

Light however operates on a certain range of electromagnetic wavelengths any character capable of generating radiation on those wavelengths will bypass a shield that allows the passage of light .

Originally posted by Naija boy
Superman making his HV invisible doesnt neccessarily mean it works across multiple wavelengths of energy (which it may). He could simply be making it so small that its invisible to anyone with regular eyes.

That's possible but his vision powers overall operate on different wavelengths. His x-ray vision etc. His beams seem to have qualties of microwave and infrared radiation too.

Originally posted by Allankles
That's only part of the story. The photon is the basic unit of electromagnetic radiation period, so Mags manipulating photons should be common knowledge, obviously the writer didn't know what he was talking about because that should be the fundamentals on Mags.

Light however operates on a certain range of electromagnetic wavelengths any character capable of generating radiation on those wavelengths will bypass a shield that allows the passage of [B]light . [/B]

only if their power generates harmless light with no power behind it.

Originally posted by Allankles
That's possible but his vision powers overall operate on different wavelengths. His x-ray vision etc. His beams seem to have qualties of microwave and infrared radiation too.

Any thing to support his HV in particular operating over different wavelengths aside the fact that he has made it seemingly invisible?