Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nah really. Do I have to explain to you there are limitations to how much electromagnetic energy he can control and WWH was producing so much energy he would have destroyed the planet?
Show me proof that it's more energy than Mags can control. Mags has never shown to be unable to control any magnetic energy, as far as I've seen.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Listen. You've obviously been home-schooled by the mentally handicapped. I'll break it down ONE more time for you. That's it.1) Hulks body can adapt all it wants. None of those show any sort of ability to "Expel" things from his body. Quite the contrary, I showed an exact feat that shows he cannot "Expel" things from his body. You are relying on hypothesis. I am relying on a fact.
2) Magneto does not control the Hulk's body. How many ways can I say this? Hulk has metal in his body. Magneto lifts the metal. Hulk's body is the metal in it, thus it is lifted as well. Think of putting a hook in a fish. You lift the hook, the fish comes with it. You aren't exerting force on the fish, just the hook. The fish has become an extension of the hook, and in essence, done nothing more than make it weigh more. The same principle. The piece of metal just now weighs whatever Hulk weighs in addition to it's own weight
There's no debating either of those points until you can find an actual example of him "expelling" something from his body.
Yes I understand that but what you fail to understand that its his body adapting to different attacks, so its not a stretch to say his body can expel it. There is also this other point which you are ignoring.
Starnger tried to use telekinesis to control the Hulks body...IF Starnger cant do it Mags cant do it either.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
The second point cannot be debated. It's fact.
Again I have NEVER seen telepathy affect the earths magnetic field, according to your logic Magneto shouldnt be able affect psionic ability. Guess what he did....how because psionic energy is electromagnetic.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Show me proof that it's more energy than Mags can control. Mags has never shown to be unable to control any magnetic energy, as far as I've seen.
You show me proof that he can. The guy was generating so much energy it was smashing up skyscraper and he was trying to control himself. He was generating so much energy he almost wiped out the eastern seabord. You really think Mags is just gonna control that like nothing.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes I understand that but what you fail to understand that its his body adapting to different attacks, so its not a stretch to say his body can expel it. There is also this other point which you are ignoring.[b]Starnger tried to use telekinesis to control the Hulks body...IF Starnger cant do it Mags cant do it either.
Again I have NEVER seen telepathy affect the earths magnetic field, according to your logic Magneto shouldnt be able affect psionic ability. Guess what he did....how because psionic energy is electromagnetic.
You show me proof that he can. The guy was generating so much energy it was smashing up skyscraper and he was trying to control himself. He was generating so much energy he almost wiped out the eastern seabord. You really think Mags is just gonna control that like nothing. [/B]
You have yet to disprove what I've said at all. I've disproven everything you've said. This will be my last post until you get your head out of your ass and utilize some higher levels of reading comprehension, although that may be beyond you.
It's is completely implausible and a huge assumption to believe his body would adapt in a completely opposite manner than is has in the past. You have nothing to support your claim except blind hope that it would work how you think it would. With that sort of faith, I trust you could mix ammonia and bleach and get ambrosia. Just because past facts have shown it won't happen, doesn't mean if you will it hard enough it won't.
Magneto isn't controlling Hulk's body. Why the hell do you keep saying this? I've said multiple times he's not trying to do this. Your reading comprehension is terrible.
Magneto's powers are electromagnetic first and foremost, not psionic. You are saying Gamma radiation is electromagnetic in nature, therefore it falls under the realm of what Magneto controls, much like psionic energy. Of course this is some semi-advanced science talk, and the fact that you can't understand basic physics makes me believe I lost you in the first sentence.
Magneto has easily created magnetic fields strong enough to wipe out everything on the EARTH. He has shown the ability to tear the earth Asunder, lift GIANT structures (Asteroid M) into space with ease, etc. He has more feats that make that little temper tantrum that 'almost wiped out the eastern seaboard' look like a joke.
Don't bother responding if you can't come up with a new, logical approach, because you've honestly done nothing but show how foolish you look in your last three posts.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
You have yet to disprove what I've said at all. I've disproven everything you've said. This will be my last post until you get your head out of your ass and utilize some higher levels of reading comprehension, although that may be beyond you.It's is completely implausible and a huge assumption to believe his body would adapt in a completely opposite manner than is has in the past. You have nothing to support your claim except blind hope that it would work how you think it would. With that sort of faith, I trust you could mix ammonia and bleach and get ambrosia. Just because past facts have shown it won't happen, doesn't mean if you will it hard enough it won't.
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Forget it. I understand what you're saying but I do't think you understand what im saying. I don't think you want to. If you don't think its possible fair enough.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Magneto isn't controlling Hulk's body. Why the hell do you keep saying this? I've said multiple times he's not trying to do this. Your reading comprehension is terrible.
No you're the one with the comprehension problems because I understand what you're saying you're just obnoxious. Mags is going to put metal in his body and control him from there. Its like telekinesis but via a different method. Stranger tried it, it didn't work.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Magneto's powers are electromagnetic first and foremost, not psionic. You are saying Gamma radiation is electromagnetic in nature, therefore it falls under the realm of what Magneto controls, much like psionic energy. Of course this is some semi-advanced science talk, and the fact that you can't understand basic physics makes me believe I lost you in the first sentence..
duhhhhhh!!!!! Of course his powers aren't psonic but he was able to disrupt psionic energy because its.......ELECTROMAGNETIC!
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Magneto has easily created magnetic fields strong enough to wipe out everything on the EARTH. He has shown the ability to tear the earth Asunder, lift GIANT structures (Asteroid M) into space with ease, etc. He has more feats that make that little temper tantrum that 'almost wiped out the eastern seaboard' look like a joke.
Er he was trying to control himself if had let rip it would have been alot worse. 😬
If he can do this. I dont see how its a stretch that he can expel metal from his body especially when hes been shown to resist attacks on the molecular level.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen12.jpg
Bare in mind those blade are vibarnuim and Hulk shouldnt even be able to move his muscles.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If he can do this. I dont see how its a stretch that he can expel metal from his body especially when hes been shown to resist attacks on the molecular level.http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen12.jpg
Bare in mind those blade are vibarnuim and Hulk shouldnt even be able to move his muscles.
He flexed and popped the knive out that different than him being impaled by something he cant flex and pop that out.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He flexed and popped the knive out that different than him being impaled by something he cant flex and pop that out.
Yes but the knives were made out of vibranuim he shouldnt have been able to do it. He could still do that to Magentos metal if he trys to get it into his body.
What makes you think Mags can impale Hulk?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes but the knives were made out of vibranuim he shouldnt have been able to do it. He could still do that to Magentos metal if he trys to get it into his body.What makes you think Mags can impale Hulk?
What would stop him wwh durability did not impress me what did impress me was his insane healing factor.His durability actually seem worse than before.
LOL @ Phantom taking a beating from logic. Magneto wins this 10/10 times. His shields have repelled multiple nukes, Hulk isnt throwing something through that.
Magneto has better control over his power than most marvel mutans. He can form items out of thin air using particles. He almost certainly can control gamma radiation and finish the Hulk in a matter of moments.
Also he doesnt need to pierce Hulk's skin. He can take a small amount of metal, liquify it, and run it right up Hulk's nostrils, encase his brain, and pull it back out through the nose. Hulk isnt healing from that.
Originally posted by redhotrash
LOL @ Phantom taking a beating from logic. Magneto wins this 10/10 times. His shields have repelled multiple nukes, Hulk isnt throwing something through that.
He doesn't have to throw anything.
Originally posted by redhotrash
[B]
Magneto has better control over his power than most marvel mutans. He can form items out of thin air using particles. He almost certainly can control gamma radiation and finish the Hulk in a matter of moments.
Er people have tried that before.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Also he doesnt need to pierce Hulk's skin. He can take a small amount of metal, liquify it, and run it right up Hulk's nostrils, encase his brain, and pull it back out through the nose. Hulk isnt healing from that.
Yes he can WWH has healed from brain injuries. Hes got adamantuim shards in his head and he was up in a matter of moments.
WWH is body is too strong for Mags to do anything if he tries to move hs body it won't work. Hell even if he tries to lift him up his muscles are capable of lifting billions of tons, if he pushes downwards hes not going anywhere if he doesn't want to. You know when your on the beach and you can push your feet into the ground. Imagine Hulk doing that with all his force. Hulk aint going nowhere.
Firstly, yes he would have to throw stuff if Magneto is 50+ feet off the ground. Hulk JUMPING at him isnt going to cut it.
Heal from brain injuries?!? HIS BRAIN WOULD BE OUT OF HIS SKULL!
And when you go deadweight (pushing down with your feet) you arent actually getting heavier, you are just resisting whoever is trying to pick you up. If Magneto can lift a frigging astroid, he can lift a 1,000 pound Hulk. Be serious here and either come up with something reasonable or yield this debate.
First of all im not taking any rubbish from somebody who says that Reed Richards cant do anything in a prep thread.
You are also the one who said that Hulk cant resist planet destroying force. You are just basically ignorant of the characters you debate about.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Firstly, yes he would have to throw stuff if Magneto is 50+ feet off the ground. Hulk JUMPING at him isnt going to cut it.
I didnt say jumping eventually Magnetos going to get tired and Hulk will clobber him.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Heal from brain injuries?!? HIS BRAIN WOULD BE OUT OF HIS SKULL!
He has a HF! He can regenerate organs! Hell hes even grown new organs
Originally posted by redhotrash
And when you go deadweight (pushing down with your feet) you arent actually getting heavier, you are just resisting whoever is trying to pick you up. If Magneto can lift a frigging astroid, he can lift a 1,000 pound Hulk. Be serious here and either come up with something reasonable or yield this debate.
Look! You're just not getting are you. It doesn't matter if hes not getting heavier the strength in his muscles will force him downwards and Magento will have to resist against the force Im pretty sure Hulk has been hit by forces more powerful than he weighs and he hasn't budged, but now all of a sudden he will.
What kinda of moronic statement is that. Hes lifted up asteroid. Do you know Hulk has used his strength to deal with much greater forces??????
