LUKE vs NIHILUS! re-match(all out)

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What do you mean she hasn't "seen" it. She was stripped of the force on Malachor V. She understood EXACTLY what had happened.

You're being surprisingly dense on this issue and it's over something so ridiculously simple that you've exhausted my patience, so I will attempt to explain it to you one final time. Traya's statement is something along the lines of: "one cannot possess power of that magnitude and still perceive things as we do." Exodus (and you, apparently) want to take that statement as a blatant indication of how powerful Nihilus truly is; the statement putting him on a "cosmic level" as Nebaris might say. But that simply isn't the case. Traya, despite being a prolific historian and expert on the Force, does NOT possess raw power on par or exceeding Nihilus's own, therefore she can NOT properly understand how or what he perceives based on that level of power since she does NOT possess it. She is NOT omniscient. She does NOT wield power on par with Nihilus. She is NOT infallible.

The conclusion? She is NOT a credible source on Nihilus's perceptions and thus the statement is NOT relevant.

ok. Makes sense.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
ok. Makes sense.

😐

Since Luke can make himself immune to Nihilus' strongest power and is above Nihilus in all other respects, he wins.

Who the hell said there is no proof Luke is a better saber duelist than Nihilus?

Originally posted by Gideon
You're being surprisingly dense on this issue and it's over something so ridiculously simple that you've exhausted my patience, so I will attempt to explain it to you one final time. Traya's statement is something along the lines of: "one cannot possess power of that magnitude and still perceive things as we do." Exodus (and you, apparently) want to take that statement as a blatant indication of how powerful Nihilus truly is; the statement putting him on a "cosmic level" as Nebaris might say. But that simply isn't the case. Traya, despite being a prolific historian and expert on the Force, does [B]NOT possess raw power on par or exceeding Nihilus's own, therefore she can NOT properly understand how or what he perceives based on that level of power since she does NOT possess it. She is NOT omniscient. She does NOT wield power on par with Nihilus. She is NOT infallible.

The conclusion? She is NOT a credible source on Nihilus's perceptions and thus the statement is NOT relevant. [/B]

Well geez, why didn't you just say that to begin with?

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Well geez, why didn't you just say that to begin with?

I had a breakdown after that post, lol. So much time and effort invested in such a simple concept. After dealing with Janus for so long, DS was the one to send me to the loony bin.

Originally posted by Gideon
I had a breakdown after that post, lol. So much time and effort invested in such a simple concept. After dealing with Janus for so long, DS was the one to send me to the loony bin.

WITHOUT even reading the argument, I might add. Looks like I own Janus in toying with Escape's mind.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
WITHOUT even reading the argument, I might add. Looks like I own Janus in toying with Escape's mind.

A-yep.

How those padded rooms treatin ya?

They're nice and cushy.

Oh, you were talking to Gideon!!! 😮 Democracy's bad.

Tobin also says Nihilus perceives things differently than others.
He says this in the presence of Visas and we know from the comic that Nihilus "showed her what he saw" or something similar.