Forgiveness

Forgiveness is a central theme in many religions.

However, what do we think is the role Forgiveness can actually play in the Modern World?

Should we take a more forgiving role to our peers and family? Not let small squabbles cause great rifts?

Should we then be more forgiving of criminals...especially when the Death Penalty is involved...

However, this thread also seeks to allow the reader to act on the title and exercise some forgiveness...So, when you post your argument also post...a little note of forgiveness. (You only need to do it once)

JIA...I forgive you. 🙂

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Forgiveness is a central theme in many religions.

However, what do we think is the role Forgiveness can actually play in the Modern World?

Should we take a more forgiving role to our peers and family? Not let small squabbles cause great rifts?

Should we then be more forgiving of criminals...especially when the Death Penalty is involved...

However, this thread also seeks to allow the reader to act on the title and exercise some forgiveness...So, when you post your argument also post...a little note of forgiveness. (You only need to do it once)

JIA...I forgive you. 🙂

JIA...I forgive you too.

*goes out and saves worms from the rain*

I save things that need saving.

Capitialism took that ideal from ever coming to fruition.

. . . is for pansies.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
. . . is for pansies.

We forgive you. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We forgive you. 😉

Rawr!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Rawr!

Don't let it go to your head. 😉

Originally posted by Deja~vu
*goes out and saves worms from the rain*

I save things that need saving.

It's highly doubtful that such cognitively simple forms of life have anywhere near the levels of consciousness needed to process pain, or even anything resembling negativity as we understand it. It gets dicey once you jump up to, say, rodents and other small animals, but anything at or near the level of a worm in conscious of nothing. I feel no remorse in killing, or not saving, such creatures. I don't go out of my way to kill them, of course, but I also don't fall into the needlessly pacifistic "protect all life" idiom.

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Forgiveness is necessary to function as a species. So long as our forgiveness does not extend to the point where our docile tendencies cause harm to ourselves or others, it should always be the goal, regardless of whether you view it from an altruistic perspective or a survival perspective.

Forgiveness is necessary to function as a species. So long as our Forgiveness does not extend to the point where our docile tendencies cause harm to ourselves or others, it should always be the goal, regardless of whether you view it from an altruistic perspective or a survival perspective.

Forgiveness is more about releasing grudges and anger that are overshadowing your personal health and wellbeing, than letting someone off the hook for his or her misdeeds.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Forgiveness is a central theme in many religions.

However, what do we think is the role Forgiveness can actually play in the Modern World?

Should we take a more forgiving role to our peers and family? Not let small squabbles cause great rifts?

Should we then be more forgiving of criminals...especially when the Death Penalty is involved...

However, this thread also seeks to allow the reader to act on the title and exercise some forgiveness...So, when you post your argument also post...a little note of forgiveness. (You only need to do it once)

JIA...I forgive you. 🙂

Its not a central theme in heathenism...in fact there is quite alot of revenge in Norse lore. However I think that has alot to do with the time period. The Vikings didn't just fight all the time and did have laws, however I don't think even to this day heathens make big deal about forgiveness but im sure they can use common sense and know that sometimes its good to let things lie.

I think that has something to do with the fact that sometimes forgiveness is an ideal. We know we should forgive, but sometimes we can't bring ourselves to. Vengeance can look very appealing sometimes.

Oprah, I forgive you.

I have no one to forgive, because nobody has ever done anything wrong.

srug

Forgiveness is one of the hardest things to reach in life, but also the most gratifying. If you are able to forgive, nothing can reach you. Jesus was above all man for is capacity to forgive. He died forgiving us.

That is what this world is lacking. There is alot of extremes now. For example, the big entreprises, where one false move could man destitution. When you've lost everything, is it so easy to forgive the one that took that away from you?

That is the main challenge, and I always try to forgive as much as I can. It makes nme feel better, my personal battle against myself and the rest of the world, that has gone so terribly bad in so many moral ways...

Originally posted by Mandos
Forgiveness is one of the hardest things to reach in life,

I don’t see how this could be true.

Originally posted by Mandos
but also the most gratifying. If you are able to forgive, nothing can reach you.

If you kill someone, forgiveness will not stop you from going to jail.

Originally posted by Mandos
Jesus was above all man for is capacity to forgive. He died forgiving us.

There is nothing for Jesus to forgive us for in the first place.

Originally posted by Mandos
That is what this world is lacking. There is alot of extremes now. For example, the big entreprises, where one false move could man destitution. When you've lost everything, is it so easy to forgive the one that took that away from you?

I disagree! Attachments to things and materialism leads to far more suffering then lack of forgiveness.

Originally posted by Mandos
That is the main challenge, and I always try to forgive as much as I can. It makes nme feel better, my personal battle against myself and the rest of the world, that has gone so terribly bad in so many moral ways...

So, that is your main challenge?

Nah, materialism pwns.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Nah, materialism pwns.

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Materialism is within its self is not a bad thing. It is the projection of suffering from were the responsibility truly lies to other people of things that is bad, in that it leads to delusions. If you drink all night and wake in the morning with a hang over, you are the only person to blame for your own suffering.

''I don’t see how this could be true.''

We do not live in a world of forgiveness, which makes persons who can special to me.

''If you kill someone, forgiveness will not stop you from going to jail''

Has nothing to do with what you quoted of me. Read it again.

''There is nothing for Jesus to forgive us for in the first place.''

Right, and what about all the sins of men? Have you read the Bible?

''I disagree! Attachments to things and materialism leads to far more suffering then lack of forgiveness. ''

I agree with you on this one, but it does not stop the lack of forgiveness to hurt still.

''So, that is your main challenge?''

Personnally, I received alot of shit in my life, and being able to sincerly forgive everything in my heart is tough, yes.

Originally posted by Mandos
We do not live in a world of forgiveness, which makes persons who can special to me.

Forgiveness is not something that can make a world; it is something that we do.

Originally posted by Mandos
Has nothing to do with what you quoted of me. Read it again.

I was trying to show you how cause and effect are not changed by forgiveness.

Originally posted by Mandos
Right, and what about all the sins of men? Have you read the Bible?

I have read the bible from the beginning to the end; have you? What about all the good things that we humans have done?

Originally posted by Mandos
I agree with you on this one, but it does not stop the lack of forgiveness to hurt still.

Attachments to forgiveness lead to suffering.

Originally posted by Mandos
Personnally, I received alot of shit in my life, and being able to sincerly forgive everything in my heart is tough, yes.

If you take responsibility for all things in your life, you will have no need for forgiveness.