Originally posted by DarkCrawlerThat's your argument? Colossus was kinda new too then.
She-Hulk, who had just started as Avenger and had no fighting training at all?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerUmm.....Namor is alot stronger and more durable than those two. 💃
Namor's speed and skill have surprised the likes of Daredevil and Spider-Man who are both faster and better fighters the She-Hulk:
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Originally posted by DarkCrawlerYour funny. I never said he didn't 😱Acrobatics...Namor certainly does not have it...
Oh, wait:
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Originally posted by DarkCrawlerDidn't Namor start to get weak after that? Yea I think so.Punching someone who is stronger, not giving him time to defend? Not a skill that Namor would not have mastered.
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Originally posted by DarkCrawlerThat's not the point. I never hear anybody say that about Colossus when I use his older feats. He still schooled then 7 to 1.More like using the strategy. They were undisclipined kids that were hurting themselves more then Colossus. Kind of like the fellows in this picture:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5811/namorski7zd.pngAnd that's Namor using only his instincts.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerMarvel comics editors don't agree with you however.
Only that for every feat you show, I have more and better ones...Namor is more skilled.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerWolverine can hang with those guys. Minus Thor but Namor can't either.
And Hercules, Thor and Captain America call Namor their sparring partner.And there is not enough time for me to post all the fights Namor's been through...
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerIs that skill/feat more impressive than ripping open the jaws and smashing the skull a T-Rex?More like using the strategy. They were undisclipined kids that were hurting themselves more then Colossus. Kind of like the fellows in this picture:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5811/namorski7zd.pngAnd that's Namor using only his instincts.
Only that for every feat you show, I have more and better ones...
Namor is more skilled.
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's your argument? Colossus was kinda new too then.
He had been on X-Men at least for a year...and had more training then She-Hulk.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Umm.....Namor is alot stronger and more durable than those two. 💃
It doesn't have anything to do with him overwhelming them through skill and speed...
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Your funny. I never said he didn't 😱
Why point stuff that doesn't?
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't Namor start to get weak after that? Yea I think so.
Seeing as he had been on land for hours...
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's not the point. I never hear anybody say that about Colossus when I use his older feats. He still schooled then 7 to 1.
But that doesn't prove that he is more skilled then Namor at all...🤨
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Marvel comics editors don't agree with you however.
Writers and creators of the characters do...
Originally posted by snoopdogg[QUOTE=6885030]Originally posted by snoopdogg [B]
Wolverine can hang with those guys. Minus Thor but Namor can't either.
He can hang with those guys because of his healing factor...not through his skills.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerShe-Hulk isn't know for her fighting ability. They were both newbies just that Colossus had more skills.
He had been on X-Men at least for a year...and had more training then She-Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerWhat are Cap and Spidey gonna do to Namor? I mean seriously. Not good reference there.It doesn't have anything to do with him overwhelming them through skill and speed...
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerReally? Where does it say in a comic that Namor is more skilled than Colossus.Writers and creators of the characters do...
Namor has greater skills, greater experience and greater showings. And I have proof of them. Just because he has not shown to train in somewhere else then a real fighting situation, it does not mean that the training is not equal...it's even better then makeshift training.
IMO Namor's level 3 skill is about right. Now before you rip my throat out with bare hands, let me explain. Namor doesn't rely on his skill. He uses more his other advantages. He's fast, strong etc. strong characters usually rely on smacking their opponents, with some added dodging. Skill would matter if the characters hav nearly same stats. If you couldn't do something with just brute strength would you use your skills instead? Yuppers. Besides, I've never seen Namor jump in the air and doing a flip while yelling "Kiiiiyaaa! Hadouken!" And then doing a fancy 360 - kick to someone's head. (I'm going to kill myself if you post a scan of namor doing that 😖)
This is quite same with all "strong" characters. Benjy and Colossus too. Hell even Wolverine relies on slugging than his "superb" skills. Apparently there are 2 versions of Wolverine. The skilled martial artist one who holds back his claws and the berserk one who ignores all his "talents and skills".. Bah Skill is highly overrated in comics 😄
Wolverine has more experience then Namor does.
I doubt he has been training all his life. And besides, he has forgotten most of his skills/memories (Though I recall he has recieved all his lost memories..?)
About those scans you guys posted on last page. I don't really know how much skill do you need to defeat people who can barely hurt you.. Hmm, gotta admit that the pic where Namor owns some sea creatures or such is impressive.. or the attackers are dumb as.. Wolverine..? Btw, some of those screenshots didn't open for so I can't reply about their content. I'll try different browser tomorrow.
Originally posted by Grimm22In a Marvel handbook. Do you guys think Marvel just hires these guys out of nowhere? With no comic knowledge? There is more than one guy who writes these bios etc.
Where does it say that Colossus is more skilled than Namor 😐
That bio is still more than what you guys have as proof.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
In a Marvel handbook. Do you guys think Marvel just hires these guys out of nowhere? With no comic knowledge? There is more than one guy who writes these bios etc.That bio is still more than what you guys have as proof.
Marvel said that Colossus has more skills than Namor 🤨
*gets out boomstick*
It's clobberin time 😮💨
*cocks gun*
Originally posted by snoopdogg
She-Hulk isn't know for her fighting ability. They were both newbies just that Colossus had more skills.
She pretty much is now...
And I don't consider someone a newbie when he has been in X-Men for over a year. At least he isn't one compared to She-Hulk.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
What are Cap and Spidey gonna do to Namor? I mean seriously. Not good reference there.
It's a good reference that he used skill to take them out...
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Really? Where does it say in a comic that Namor is more skilled than Colossus.
Seeing as he has greater feats and all.
Originally posted by snoopdoggBut one guy wrote Namor's bio. And from what I have seen from his bios (Class 85, 60 MPH swimming speed, 40 MPH flight speed 😂 ) they don't know jack shit. Sorry, but it is true.
In a Marvel handbook. Do you guys think Marvel just hires these guys out of nowhere? With no comic knowledge? There is more than one guy who writes these bios etc.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That bio is still more than what you guys have as proof.
No, it's not. Comics >> Handbooks. Namor has greater feats in comics.
Handbooks are wrong in many things.
Originally posted by Jyppe
IMO Namor's level 3 skill is about right. Now before you rip my throat out with bare hands, let me explain. Namor doesn't rely on his skill. He uses more his other advantages. He's fast, strong etc. strong characters usually rely on smacking their opponents, with some added dodging. Skill would matter if the characters hav nearly same stats. If you couldn't do something with just brute strength would you use your skills instead? Yuppers. Besides, I've never seen Namor jump in the air and doing a flip while yelling "Kiiiiyaaa! Hadouken!" And then doing a fancy 360 - kick to someone's head. (I'm going to kill myself if you post a scan of namor doing that 😖)
Number 3 means "some training". Number 4 means "experienced fighter". How in the name of all that is holy Namor can have only "some training" when he has been trained by the BEST in 10,000 year old warrior nation? And has feats that show him being above "some training". Someone like Wasp who has had sparring sessions with Captain America couple of times would be someone with "some training". Not an 86 year old warrior who has been fighting for his ENTIRE LIFE.
And the day that Colossus has more experience in fighting then Namor is the day that I will burn my authentic Number #1 Donald Duck comics. A day that will not come. ✅
Originally posted by Jyppe
This is quite same with all "strong" characters. Benjy and Colossus too. Hell even Wolverine relies on slugging than his "superb" skills. Apparently there are 2 versions of Wolverine. The skilled martial artist one who holds back his claws and the berserk one who ignores all his "talents and skills".. Bah Skill is highly overrated in comics 😄
Ben has at least army training...
And Wolverine is skilled when he shows it. Rarely, yes, but he is skilled.
Originally posted by Jyppe
I doubt he has been training all his life. And besides, he has forgotten most of his skills/memories (Though I recall he has recieved all his lost memories..?)
Don't know, Logan has showed some awesome martial arts fighting skills. Like in the old Claremont comics.
In my opinion, Wolverine > Captain America when it comes to fighting skills.
Originally posted by JyppeAll opened with me. 🙁
About those scans you guy[b]s posted on last page. I don't really know how much skill do you need to defeat people who can barely hurt you.. Hmm, gotta admit that the pic where Namor owns some sea creatures or such is impressive.. or the attackers are dumb as.. Wolverine..? Btw, some of those screenshots didn't open for so I can't reply about their content. I'll try different browser tomorrow. [/B]
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Gotta correct this. 😬Namor was born in 1920, making him 86 years old.
Wolverine was born in beginning of 1900's/end of 1800's making him somewhere between 120-100 years old.
Wolverine has more experience then Namor does.
I believe that Colossus is not over 30 though...
Colossus has gotta be at least 30 or something like that. I mean, even though they age slowly, everyone on the X-Men has still been aging. I dunno, I'd say he's AT LEAST 30.
And even though Wolverine is older, he didn't spend all 120 years of his life training/fighting. Namor pretty much did. I'd definitely say Namor's experience>>>Wolverine's.
Colossus fanboysm in this discussion is even over that of GrimmThing for Benji.
Colossus is a low/mid level Class 100 guy, wanna say he can lift about a thousand tons?
Namor on an island, so near water but still on the ground, was fighting demigod Hercules and showing his own, showing why Poseidon himself call him "my son".
Namor has experience, durability, strength, reflexes, agility, fighting skills, all above Colossus.
Colossus mobility is nowhere near that of the Avenging Son.
He can leap high and fast with his legs, but wanna compare super jumps with flight and especially, the flight experience of about a century?
Namor has fought an hulk possessed by an evil sorcerer who was tapping into Hulk power, and still managed to contain him and even knock him off his feet without being owned.
Colossus has toppled Jugg, but still got defeated, same with Gladiator.
Colossus is X-Men's strong guy, like Benji is F4 strong guy, but compared to big guns like Wonder Man, Namor, Hercules, Thor, etc. they are rookies.
