Lucifer Morningstar vs. The Source

Originally posted by fangirl101
Doomsday adapts.
As for Seid tapping into the sources power, that isn't a strike against the Source. You are acting as if DS is some dumb being. He's one of the smartest beings ever. He calculated and made moves for like two years. He'd been knowing the DOTNG was coming and had been prepping for it. Ug. You down play DC so much.

Darkseid isnt a stupid being by any stretch of the imagination.

I love dc and marvel. Both have pluses and minuses. I call it how I see it is all.

He made moves for years in advance but all that was needed was Superman's interference and his plans went up like a puff of smoke. He doesnt see the whole picture and usually loses before achieving the goal he set out for himself.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

Well im simply comparing worlds in each universe for a estimate on how big the 4th must actually be,and for earth sized planets to be as small as marbles to just a human sized person in the 4th world and then comparing it how small those are to an actual planet in the 4th world it comes out to more than trillions

There's no way you anyone can prove
that Universe is trillions of times bigger than the DC Multiverse based on that.

I believe my Galaxy to Planet size ratio comparison explains that perfectly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday doesnt change size. When has he?

Darkseid isnt a stupid being by any stretch of the imagination.

I love dc and marvel. Both have pluses and minuses. I call it how I see it is all.

He made moves for years in advance but all that was needed was Superman's interference and his plans went up like a puff of smoke. He doesnt see the whole picture and usually loses before achieving the goal he set out for himself.

Just like DS was making plans, the source was too. Superman was one of the Sources plans. Next.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I hear you, but, I have to disagree.

There's no way you anyone can prove
that Universe is trillions of times bigger than the DC Multiverse based on that.

I believe my Galaxy to Planet size ratio comparison explains that perfectly.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Just like DS was making plans, the source was too. Superman was one of the Sources plans. Next.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

Well we know the 4th world is a universe just like any other just alot bigger obviously,it has stars galaxies ect just like a normal one just scaled up,lets just agree that the source making the entire 4th world+all those hundreds of thousands of new gods while being depowered is a fairly impressive feat.

Is there any more info on what type of realities they were, (pocket universes perhaps)
he said "twisted universes"
what does that mean?

I'm not suggesting anything, just asking. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 ... Heck yea,
especially considering that each was playing with a universe,
that's monstrous,
and based on that, the Source is uber, and yes, very impressive.

Hence why we have the problem of the New Gods. In thier true forms, they are supposed to be Uber. Whent hey boom tube, they become little more than Super heroes.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Hence why we have the problem of the New Gods. In thier true forms, they are supposed to be Uber. Whent hey boom tube, they become little more than Super heroes.

Ok, why is that?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Hence why we have the problem of the New Gods. In thier true forms, they are supposed to be Uber. Whent hey boom tube, they become little more than Super heroes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's try and have a sensible heart to heart. 🙂

Ok, why is that?

The Boom Tubes desize and depower the New Gods from thier true forms. thier true forms would be too much. Gigantic. Like so big they would destroy planets with thier presence. That is the way the original story had intended.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fourth world new gods interacted as equals basically to Superman and such. Whether they came to him or he came to them it was all on equal ground. They cant just destroy earth if they want to. Now the fifth world new gods seem to be much more powerful. But lets wait until final crisis gets going before we start bringing that up yet.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Boom Tubes desize and depower the New Gods from thier true forms. thier true forms would be too much. Gigantic. Like so big they would destroy planets with thier presence. That is the way the original story had intended.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes but things have changed drastically. Supergirl got there without a boomtube and the new gods were nowhere near that size.

Supergirl was an angel. Who's to say she didn't alter her size? She was still mighter than even Despero. And she still got One shotted.

LM wins

Originally posted by fangirl101
Supergirl was an angel. Who's to say she didn't alter her size? She was still mighter than even Despero. And she still got One shotted.

Who wins, buddy. Lucy or the Source

Originally posted by guy222
Who wins, buddy. Lucy or the Source

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday got there to without a boomtube and he is no angel. Point is when the new gods come to earth or when characters come to their crib its usually equal ground and Supergirl got there by magical means and they werent anywhere near the size as to which you were describing.

No. that would be an editorial inconsistancy. The established canon is that the boom tubes alter the size of the travelers. We dont' know what happened while DD traveled to the 4th world. The ESTABLISHED CANON IS IN THE NEW GODS SERIES.

Lucy does win

For the being that created everything to countdown to infinite crisis to final crisis and everything else it has been setting up to rejoin with the other half it lost and you think The Source isn't impressive?? You still think DS defeated The Source?? Heck The Source was still setting up Odin and the other Old Gods for the battle of Ragnarok and it allowed it to happen, should make you think about your theories 😉