Murder or Self Defense?

Started by Quiero Mota16 pages
Originally posted by Evil Dead
the important thing from this story is that two criminals will no longer be committing criminal acts agaisnt upstanding, law abiding citizens. You want to live in society, you follow the rules set forth to protect all citizens. You don't want to follow those rules, you don't get to live in the society. These two guys are no longer living in our society.

Which is something a lot of people are conveniently ignoring.

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's not the facts of life, it's common sense. Who in their right mind is gonna charge a man with a 12 guage?

I think you'll find that people are genuinely stupid.

I'm not saying they did or did not charge Horn but I wouldn't put it past a person.

Originally posted by Röland
I think you'll find that people are genuinely stupid.

I'm not saying they did or did not charge Horn but I wouldn't put it past a person.

Only someone who is brain dead would charge a man with a shotgun.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
the important thing from this story is that two criminals will no longer be committing criminal acts agaisnt upstanding, law abiding citizens. You want to live in society, you follow the rules set forth to protect all citizens. You don't want to follow those rules, you don't get to live in the society. These two guys are no longer living in our society.
So.....commit a crime, get blown away by Joe Redneck? This is acceptable to you?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Only someone who is brain dead would charge a man with a shotgun.

I agree.

But still, people are stupid and what if they did charge him thinking that he was bluffing?

Originally posted by Röland
I agree.

But still, people are stupid and what if they did charge him thinking that he was bluffing?

Dude, it was a shotgun. You ever had a gun drawn on you?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, it was a shotgun. You ever had a gun drawn on you?

Nevermind.

Originally posted by Röland
Nevermind.
Let me tell you, I have (mistaken identity by the cops) and it was just a revolver. I nearly shat myself. So when someone sees a man with a shotgun coming at them, they are not gonna "charge" him.

The guys had their hands full of loot to boot.

I'm just trying to figure out why he would shoot them other than the fact that they were robbing his neighbor's house.

Originally posted by Röland
I'm just trying to figure out why he would shoot them other than the fact that they were robbing his neighbor's house.
Because he is a trigger happy redneck who hates minorities? Texas is full of them.

Law (Pretty Complicated?)

Their deaths are more unfortunate in the law's eyes than a petty charge on the man. You can't happen to kill someone in defense who wasn't going to kill you or someone else.

He might get a long year in jail and a relatively large fine for using arms to impersonate cruel and unusual punishment.

You only ask once if a life was in danger. If the man could plead that they were going to hurt someone, he'd be let off, though. I don't think you are allowed to shoot someone to keep them from running, but that's the issue. Supposedly, if you see them, the police will catch them. It's certainly not your fault if you don't shoot that they get away. Shooting implies lots of dangers as a civilian and amateur in arms. I think the police shoot them in the leg if they run.

If he wasn't sure, I think he'd be charged a fine and maybe less than half a year in jail, maybe even just a week or a day. If he just regrets ignorance, he might get a moderate charge.

He walked.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because he is a trigger happy redneck who hates minorities? Texas is full of them.

I don't think the two robbers being illegal immigrants had anything to do with it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No witnesses, no one to see him being "charged", how convenient.

So guilty until proven innocent, then?

Like I said, in the article I believe it said that he left his cell phone on and had it in his pocket. So the operator would have heard the whole thing and could have pretty easily been able to tell if he was lying about it or not.

And yes, no one in their right mind would rush a guy with a shotgun. Is it really that outlandish that a couple of druggy criminals may not have made the reasonable decision?

Originally posted by BackFire
So guilty until proven innocent, then?

Like I said, in the article I believe it said that he left his cell phone on and had it in his pocket. So the operator would have heard the whole thing and could have pretty easily been able to tell if he was lying about it or not.

And yes, no one in their right mind would rush a guy with a shotgun. Is it really that outlandish that a couple of druggy criminals may not have made the reasonable decision?

So now they were drugged up AND stupid?

Actually, "drugged up" = "stupid"

pfft

drugs are amazing

So is sex. Well, good sex...

put them together, it is what living is all about