Murder or Self Defense?

Started by Rogue Jedi16 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
When he saw the barrel of the shotgun as he was facing the guy, I'm guessing he had a profound "Oh shit!" moment. He then hit the breaks in an attempt to get the hell outta Dodge, but by then it was too late because the buckshot had already found its mark. He got hit as he was turning.
"Charged" him while his hands were full of loot, charged a man holding a SHOTGUN, AND had time to have his "oh shit" moment?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
"Charged" him while his hands were full of loot, charged a man holding a SHOTGUN, AND had time to have his "oh shit" moment?

It takes less than a second to turn your torso to a side, especially with tons of adrenaline pumping through your veins. Add to that, you just got busted by the person you jacked and are about be fed a big dose of Texas justice.

More likely they were running AWAY at an angle to him and he unleashed said justice.

Guns & Race

I was thinking about how the reason it's not custom to shoot robbers is that they would kill you.

Race

Regarding racism, people should have defined which countries are different races between the black/brown and white persons..

Europe

Asia

Oceana (Wiki)

Middle East (Wiki)

Everyone could care less that some countries are both Asia and Middle East or that Turkey is also Asia. I heard China is 92% out of Africa and Japan is Russian. I run across lots of people from odd countries who try to tell me my mixture makes me less white.

I do feel like the guys who were shot when you say they are illegal Latino immigrants. I meet a lot of people who are 1/2 South American or Spanish with light blond reddish brown or white blond streaked hair and slightly tanned to deep brown tanned skin. They aren't scrawny, either. The ones I see are all way chubby at some point. They did have medium more orange/red solid brown eyes, though. They're really popular and not really treated like a minority unless with someone who would be just English, German, French, etc.

There's a difference between being a home-cooked Amish and an ethnic aborigine Eurasian. There's a difference in being elite and "humble." There's a difference between all your choices and all the choices that were made for you.

This is always an issue, it seems. Sometimes, I see pictures maybe of a Filipino with white skin. (Filipina is the Philippines, which is Spanish, but with a lot of mixed people, supposedly.) Sometimes, I see a Filipina who looks Chinese or like an Islander. That special person usually fades back into the crowd, though.

I've been looking into these kinds of issues a lot.

Re: Guns & Race

Originally posted by demon-lllama
I've been looking into these kinds of issues a lot.

Is it so you can track down the indigo children?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Is it so you can track down the indigo children?
Yes. I am looking into it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How do you shoot someone in the SIDE if they are "charging" you? Do the laws of physics like not apply to the shooter's yard?

Often, when charging, you turn your body to the side a bit so you can hit them with your shoulder.

Your grasping at straws here, quite silly, really.

Originally posted by BackFire
Often, when charging, you turn your body to the side a bit so you can hit them with your shoulder.

Your grasping at straws here, quite silly, really.

I see. You charge people alot?

Whats silly is that dude committed murder but walked. He had a shotgun, no one, not even the biggest idiot in the universe, is gonna charge a guy with a shotgun, especially when their arms are full.

But I forgot, he gave the cops hos word they charged him, that's all that matters.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see. You charge people alot?

Whats silly is that dude committed murder but walked. He had a shotgun, no one, not even the biggest idiot in the universe, is gonna charge a guy with a shotgun, especially when their arms are full.

But I forgot, he gave the cops hos word they charged him, that's all that matters.

He failed to say he was in danger. He might had said he feared they would come to his house. There is the possibility he gets it in his record.

So I guess I can go out, shoot someone, and say I was fearing for my life, and I will walk.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So I guess I can go out, shoot someone, and say I was fearing for my life, and I will walk.

Please do try.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So I guess I can go out, shoot someone, and say I was fearing for my life, and I will walk.

just make sure to get the witnesses

You can't kill someone for being crazy!

Originally posted by demon-lllama
You can't kill someone for being crazy!

I am pretty sure you can kill someone for basically any reason.

You might not get away with it, though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see. You charge people alot?

Whats silly is that dude committed murder but walked. He had a shotgun, no one, not even the biggest idiot in the universe, is gonna charge a guy with a shotgun, especially when their arms are full.

But I forgot, he gave the cops hos word they charged him, that's all that matters.

Well, when I commit rape I have to knock them down, so yeah.

Obviously, the court disagrees with you. You're entitled to your opinion, but again, the idea you're parroting is that he's guilty until proven innocent, which is obviously wrong.

And you're wrong, of course it's possible that they charged. It's really not that out there, there are many stupid people out there doing stupid things. Charging someone with a gun has happened before, will happen again. You're presenting it as some kind of complete impossibility, even though it's happened before.

It was more than his word. The phone operator could have debunked it had it not be true. Also, do you think detectives weren't employed or something? They can inspect the grass and the dirt and see if there was the movement necessary to validate a person running forward at someone else.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, when I commit rape I have to knock them down, so yeah.

Obviously, the court disagrees with you. You're entitled to your opinion, but again, the idea you're parroting is that he's guilty until proven innocent, which is obviously wrong.

And you're wrong, of course it's possible that they charged. It's really not that out there, there are many stupid people out there doing stupid things. Charging someone with a gun has happened before, will happen again. You're presenting it as some kind of complete impossibility, even though it's happened before.

It was more than his word. The phone operator could have debunked it had it not be true. Also, do you think detectives weren't employed or something? They can inspect the grass and the dirt and see if there was the movement necessary to validate a person running forward at someone else.

True, and they would find that to be false! (Indigo children read minds.) That definitely sounds like something that happens, either way. Why would they run at the man? They were committing suicide! Going out of the house to kill them is proof enough. The answer would be he knows it's not necessary and therefore would be charged more. You'd be lucky if they weren't murderers to not get it on a record.

Originally posted by demon-lllama
True, and they would find that to be false! (Indigo children read minds.)

I think it'd be pretty ****ing obvious if 95% of children born in the last 30 years could read minds.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it'd be pretty ****ing obvious if 95% of children born in the last 30 years could read minds.
Actually, I don't think they read minds, at all. Quite the opposite.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, when I commit rape I have to knock them down, so yeah.

Obviously, the court disagrees with you. You're entitled to your opinion, but again, the idea you're parroting is that he's guilty until proven innocent, which is obviously wrong.

And you're wrong, of course it's possible that they charged. It's really not that out there, there are many stupid people out there doing stupid things. Charging someone with a gun has happened before, will happen again. You're presenting it as some kind of complete impossibility, even though it's happened before.

It was more than his word. The phone operator could have debunked it had it not be true. Also, do you think detectives weren't employed or something? They can inspect the grass and the dirt and see if there was the movement necessary to validate a person running forward at someone else.

The moment he told the operator what he was gonna do and went out to do it, he was in the wrong.

Do you even read posts? I've said that he was in the wrong. He was in the wrong going out against the operators warning.

BUT - When he went outside he didn't just start blasting. Again, had he done that, I'd be right there with you. He went out and told the offenders to freeze, then they charged him, so he fired. This stood up in court, so obviously there was something to back this up. If it was just empty rhetoric on his part it would have gotten him nowhere.

So yes, he was in the wrong, doesn't mean he's some cold blooded killer who went out with the intent to actually kill. Despite what he said to the operator.