Originally posted by Röland
...I don't think he was planning all along to kill these people and I don't think he was in a "bloodlust". He made the biggest mistakes of his life and he has to live with them.
hmm
Very well put.
Edit- I would NOT want to be this guy. I fear that I may have been just as trigger happy had they stepped into my house. Killing two men when you are not built to kill is not easy to live with. I don't speak from experience, either...I just wouldn't want to live with it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about the two dead illegals? What about him telling he 911 operator what he was gonna do, then doing it?
What about the dude shot in the back? That is usually presented as a counter argument for "self defense" pleas in court by the prosecutors when gun shots are involved.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about the two dead illegals? What about him telling he 911 operator what he was gonna do, then doing it?
Given the situation and the fact that the Horn was clearly scared out of his wits, Horn could easily say that he wasn't thinking clearly and the tape supports it. Now look at the evidence against the two robbers. The broken glass/door as to how they got in and anything they may have taken while in the neighbors house.
The only things against Horn are the gun and the two dead men. There are no witnesses other than Horn, so it's really just his word they can go by and the fact that these two men were robbing the house also supports his story. I am not sure, but doesn't Texas Law favor the homeowner/landowner in respect to their options when confronted with trespassing/theft? If so, that helped him as well.
Originally posted by RölandYou just said it, he TOLD the operator he was gonna shoot them, therein lies the intent to commit MURDER.
The two dead men aren't going to be talking anytime soon and the 911 operator did not see what happened or heard the dialog once Horn goes outside. So all he has is Horn saying he is going to shoot them before it happens.Given the situation and the fact that the Horn was clearly scared out of his wits, Horn could easily say that he wasn't thinking clearly and the tape supports it. Now look at the evidence against the two robbers. The broken glass/door as to how they got in and anything they may have taken while in the neighbors house.
The only things against Horn are the gun and the two dead men. There are no witnesses other than Horn, so it's really just his word they can go by and the fact that these two men were robbing the house also supports his story. I am not sure, but doesn't Texas Law favor the homeowner/landowner in respect to their options when confronted with trespassing/theft? If so, that helped him as well.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You just said it, he TOLD the operator he was gonna shoot them, therein lies the intent to commit MURDER.
The legal term is "intent to kill"...(no, i'm not correcting you...I am providing random facts to back up yo werdz)
The dude should have gotten man slaughter charges for shooting that one guy in the back...
waa waa........I feel so bad for a couple of criminals who were killed while committing a crime.
to hell with them. I'd rather they be dead than in prison, this way my tax dollars aren't being wasted to keep them fed and healthy so they'll be in good condition when they get out and start committing crimes again.
the moral of this story.........don't commit crimes if you don't want to take the chance of losing your life while committing them.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
the moral of this story.........don't commit crimes if you don't want to take the chance of losing your life while committing them.
were this true, the man would have no justification for "self defense" even if the thief had charged him
he was commiting a crime by disregarding the orders of a police officer to remain in his house
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You just said it, he TOLD the operator he was gonna shoot them, therein lies the intent to commit MURDER.
I'm not trying to justify his actions, you're asking me what I think and I am telling you. People have gotten away with worse crimes with more evidence against them then this situation, so is it really a big surprise that this guy killed two people and got away scotch free?
Seriously stop getting upset because I am not saying what you want me to say.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
waa waa........I feel so bad for a couple of criminals who were killed while committing a crime.to hell with them. I'd rather they be dead than in prison, this way my tax dollars aren't being wasted to keep them fed and healthy so they'll be in good condition when they get out and start committing crimes again.
the moral of this story.........don't commit crimes if you don't want to take the chance of losing your life while committing them.
LOL!
Such cynicism...I LOVE IT!
Originally posted by RölandTring to upset you? I'm not trying to upset you. you are telling me what you think, and vice versa.
And I'm sure any good attorney could make the case that he was not in his right mind.I'm not trying to justify his actions, you're asking me what I think and I am telling you. People have gotten away with worse crimes with more evidence against them then this situation, so is it really a big surprise that this guy killed two people and got away scotch free?
Seriously stop getting upset because I am not saying what you want me to say.