Originally posted by psycho gundamThis isn't can punisher kill joker during that week. the fight doesn't start until the week is up.
or, frank on a distant rooftop spots the less-than inconspicuous joker sneaking around with a human sized cardboard cutout and decides to make an example of him."*scoff* idiot" says the punisher.
frank gets to a prone position and as quickly and messy as possible shoots the joker with a scoped assault rifle, the first salvo are at the thighs to incapacitate the joker, then the following shots reduce his victim to swiss green-eggs and ham. the children are so desensitized from playing video games they don't even shed a tear for the dead clown making gurgling noises.
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You can't kill the other person dfuring their prep that would negate them getting the prep.
So no.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer.......they have a week to end each other's lives, not a week to plan then fight.
Punisher thinks of that plan after the prep time expires.
He would be dead by then.
IMHO giving Joker a week of prep is overkill to Punisher. And he won't be 'joking' around like he does with Batman.
i assume if a week is up and they are both living it's considered a tie.
the only "prep" is what they can come up with during the fight.
Originally posted by psycho gundamyou're right. can you prove that punisher could find Joker in a city of 8 million people in a week without being lured to a place?
.......they have a week to end each other's lives, not a week to plan then fight.i assume if a week is up and they are both living it's considered a tie.
the only "prep" is what they can come up with during the fight.
NYC is the 12th most populated city in the world.
The odds are so bad that that's NOT likely to happen.
Oh, you wanna try using the fact that he does find people that leave paper trails that he has a means of tracking as an example of finding someone whom is not from the city whom doesn't leave a paper trail?
Originally posted by Creshosk
you're right. can you prove that punisher could find Joker in a city of 8 million people in a week without being lured to a place?
Because him being on a rooftop and just happening to see him is a one in 8,274,527+1NYC is the 12th most populated city in the world.
The odds are so bad that that's NOT likely to happen.
Oh, you wanna try using the fact that he does find people that leave paper trails that he has a means of tracking as an example of finding someone whom is not from the city whom doesn't leave a paper trail?
but first things first, lets establish the joker's plan cause he lacks field dominance here and he has no lackeys available, and a panic causing weapon of some sort seems highly unlikely.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i have no doubts that the joker would make the first move, but i'm betting it will be one that also exposes his whereabouts. all frank needs is a lead to get his perp, and yeah he will be ever so cautious with the appropriate exit/defense strategy, he won't be tricked.
+ the arms the punisher has access to can even any odds.but first things first, lets establish the joker's plan cause he lacks field dominance here and he has no lackeys available, and a panic causing weapon of some sort seems highly unlikely.
Joker Venom is always effective. How can Punisher counter it?
If Joker sends it via air raid, and Punisher blows the missiles, the gas will still spread all over the city.
BTW Joker isn't playing around anymore. This isn't the same Joker who's fighting the Batman.
He knows Punisher will shoot at will when he sees him.
This isn't a one-sided fight, where only Punisher has the chance to investigate Joker's whereabouts and tactics. It's a give-and-take situation.
In a week's time, the entire NYC will be jokerized (Punisher included)
Originally posted by psycho gundamAnd what would his first lead be?
i have no doubts that the joker would make the first move, but i'm betting it will be one that also exposes his whereabouts. all frank needs is a lead to get his perp,
The first move could very well be when the trap is finished.
Originally posted by psycho gundamAnd he's going to keep from getting tricked.. because he knows how joker's mind works.. despite that not being basic knowledge.
and yeah he will be ever so cautious with the appropriate exit/defense strategy, he won't be tricked.
Originally posted by psycho gundamBecause Frank's always uses weapons that cause alot of collateral damage and risks killing civilians.
+ the arms the punisher has access to can even any odds.
Originally posted by psycho gundamOne POSSIBLE plan was given... but since Joker's alot more insane than the posters on the forum its likely to be quite a bit more psychotic.
but first things first, lets establish the joker's plan cause he lacks field dominance here and he has no lackeys available, and a panic causing weapon of some sort seems highly unlikely.
But due to the nature of the random ... a sequence of "3 3 3 3 3" is totally possible within the scope of being random. to deny a repetition in a generator is to limit random, and limited chaos.. isn't.
Originally posted by TricksterPriesthow is he going to set it all up on his lonesome? and do so without causing any attention to himself in NY of all places?
"a panic causing weapon of some sort seems highly unlikely."hysterical Did you not read any of the last few pages? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'LL DO. He'll kill the entire city just to get Castle.
The same way he started Last Laugh, and every other mass killing he's done.
Hell, he's held the united nations hostage with a nuke. You don't ask how. He just does it. We can guess on Doom, or Reed, or Batman, or Prometheus. We know how they think to a degree. We can at least make educated guesses on them.
Not Joker. Joker's plans make no sense to anyone except Batman. Castle won't figure them out. Joker is crazier than pretty much anyone in comics. And I really think you are missing the signigance of that statement.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestyou got to ask questions man, like where is he going to get these devises? last time i was in spanish harlem they weren't selling plutonium 238 in the bodagas. joker is out of resources, he is in a foreign territory, and going against an assassin who doesn't hold back and has a mission to end joker's existence.
The same way he started Last Laugh, and every other mass killing he's done.Hell, he's held the united nations hostage with a nuke. You don't ask how. He just does it. We can guess on Doom, or Reed, or Batman, or Prometheus. We know how they think to a degree. We can at least make educated guesses on them.
Not Joker. Joker's plans make no sense to anyone except Batman. Castle won't figure them out. Joker is crazier than pretty much anyone in comics. And I really think you are missing the signigance of that statement.
joker's skating up hill here, i would most likely be convinced of his win if this was in gotham with all his men and resources available. joker 9/10 in that scenario, but in NY, the punisher's hunting grounds......joker has less than a week to live
Originally posted by Creshosk
One POSSIBLE plan was given... but since Joker's alot more insane than the posters on the forum its likely to be quite a bit more psychotic.But due to the nature of the random ... a sequence of "3 3 3 3 3" is totally possible within the scope of being random. to deny a repetition in a generator is to limit random, and limited chaos.. isn't.
Make that 2
Originally posted by psycho gundamWhere does he get them in his city?
you got to ask questions man, like where is he going to get these devises?
Originally posted by psycho gundamYou just don't know how resourceful he is.
last time i was in spanish harlem they weren't selling plutonium 238 in the bodagas. joker is out of resources,
Originally posted by psycho gundamHeh... not THAT foreign...
he is in a foreign territory,
Originally posted by psycho gundamAnd has no way of tracking joker in the 12th largest city in the world. Joker doesn't exist in any of MArvel's databases, he didn't grow up here, doesn't have a criminal history here.
and going against an assassin who doesn't hold back and has a mission to end joker's existence.
That's how Frank finds his usual quarry. cause all his previous targets do and are and have.
Originally posted by psycho gundamWhere as the punisher does have more of a paper trail, it being HIS city and all. Hell, he's even been arrested and convicted before.
joker's skating up hill here,
Originally posted by psycho gundamDo you know of the history of either gotham or new york?
i would most likely be convinced of his win if this was in gotham with all his men and resources available. joker 9/10 in that scenario, but in NY, the punisher's hunting grounds......
Boy that was almost redundant of me...
Originally posted by psycho gundamSeeing as how Punisher's home turf actually works against him.. That's not very likely.
joker has less than a week to live
Originally posted by psycho gundam
joker's skating up hill here, i would most likely be convinced of his win if this was in gotham with all his men and resources available. joker 9/10 in that scenario, but in NY, the punisher's hunting grounds......joker has less than a week to live
Joker has hostaged UN like Trickster said.
The United Nation's HQ isn't in Gotham.
Last time I checked it was somewhere in Manhattan, NEW YORK.