Originally posted by horrorwolf
Superman's powers would be toned down and some likely removed once he entered the Marvel Galaxy....and Marvel characters would have their powers increased upon entry into DC's universe.Its that ridiculous....Sort of like us entering cartoonland.
Then how would you explain Gladiator?
Although I get your drift, and it is true for certain characters (e.g. the Flash in the MU would not have access to the Speedforce, but also note that if Quicksilver went to the DCU he would NOT get access to the Speedforce .....so it is not such a clean cut direct-exchange system).
But i get your general drift .....there are some power level differences between characters that are below a certain power level, but it is not as clear cut as some make it. It is only when people try to force certain characters together (e.g. the common Flash vs Quicksilver, or Hulk vs Superman) that it seems that the DCU is 'more powerful,' when the truth of the matter is that Quicksilver should NEVER have been compared to the Flash in the first place, nor should the Hulk have been compared to Superman. Those characters are not similar in any way ....the only way QS is 'similar' to the Flash is they are both, well, fast (but Quicksilver cannot do any of the other things Flash can ....e.g. access to the speedforce, being able to absorb the kinetic energy of the earth, achieving infinite mass while having the SF protect him from physical damage, in one case energy constructs made of pure SF energy .....in several cases the Flash has travelled so fast that he is basically everywhere at the same time .....goodness, QS should never be compared to the Flash, but he usually is because they are both 'fast'😉. Same for the Hulk & Superman ...most people compare them because they are both 'strong' ....when the fact of the matter is Superman comes with a bevy of other powers that can meet the quota of your average X-men team.
Compare the two universes that way, using mis-matched characters, and obviously one will 'appear' more powerful than the other.
However imagine if i used to compare Dr Strange against Mr.E from DC (instead of doing a better comparison of Strange vs Fate)
Or if I compared Captain America to Tim Drake
Or compared Mantis to the Huntress.
It depends on the characters you use for comparison.
And also the MU is filled with a host of characters who are basically omnipotent ....it is just that the most 'common' teams in the MU are generally filled with more 'tuned-down' characters, while in the DCU the 3 top teams have several members who can be described as demi-gods. That alone does not mean that one universe is 'stronger,' just that the team structures that are actually published are different.
And people tend to forget certain people in the MU like Magneto and the Silver Surfer, or for that matter people like Wanda who wake up one day and decide to rewrite the cosmos.
Anyways, compare the Hulk to Superman and you have issues, compare Gladiator to Superman and you have peers.
Originally posted by spetznaz
Then how would you explain Gladiator?Although I get your drift, and it is true for certain characters (e.g. the Flash in the MU would not have access to the Speedforce, but also note that if Quicksilver went to the DCU he would NOT get access to the Speedforce .....so it is not such a clean cut direct-exchange system).
But i get your general drift .....there are some power level differences between characters that are below a certain power level, but it is not as clear cut as some make it. It is only when people try to force certain characters together (e.g. the common Flash vs Quicksilver, or Hulk vs Superman) that it seems that the DCU is 'more powerful,' when the truth of the matter is that Quicksilver should NEVER have been compared to the Flash in the first place, nor should the Hulk have been compared to Superman. Those characters are not similar in any way ....the only way QS is 'similar' to the Flash is they are both, well, fast (but Quicksilver cannot do any of the other things Flash can ....e.g. access to the speedforce, being able to absorb the kinetic energy of the earth, achieving infinite mass while having the SF protect him from physical damage, in one case energy constructs made of pure SF energy .....in several cases the Flash has travelled so fast that he is basically everywhere at the same time .....goodness, QS should never be compared to the Flash, but he usually is because they are both 'fast'😉. Same for the Hulk & Superman ...most people compare them because they are both 'strong' ....when the fact of the matter is Superman comes with a bevy of other powers that can meet the quota of your average X-men team.
Compare the two universes that way, using mis-matched characters, and obviously one will 'appear' more powerful than the other.
However imagine if i used to compare Dr Strange against Mr.E from DC (instead of doing a better comparison of Strange vs Fate)
Or if I compared Captain America to Tim Drake
Or compared Mantis to the Huntress.It depends on the characters you use for comparison.
And also the MU is filled with a host of characters who are basically omnipotent ....it is just that the most 'common' teams in the MU are generally filled with more 'tuned-down' characters, while in the DCU the 3 top teams have several members who can be described as demi-gods. That alone does not mean that one universe is 'stronger,' just that the team structures that are actually published are different.
And people tend to forget certain people in the MU like Magneto and the Silver Surfer, or for that matter people like Wanda who wake up one day and decide to rewrite the cosmos.
Anyways, compare the Hulk to Superman and you have issues, compare Gladiator to Superman and you have peers.
Glads doesn't have things like T-vo...which helps prevent things like this from happening to Clark while Glads would still be vulnerable.
Did you all see that I put that superman prime would be at the level of power that he is currently is even though he would be in a different universe. Whatever power he possess now he would have while in MU. By the way I know that he would be classic thor but I just cant see him crushing thor. I honestly cant picture anyone crushing previous or current thor.
Just my opinion though.
Originally posted by jltruth
Did you all see that I put that superman prime would be at the level of power that he is currently is even though he would be in a different universe. Whatever power he possess now he would have while in MU. By the way I know that he would be classic thor but I just cant see him crushing thor. I honestly cant picture anyone crushing previous or current thor.Just my opinion though.
Agreed.
