Originally posted by carver9
What was your point in saying that the blast wasnt a nuke, you made it appear as if the blast contained more power then a nuke
And how did I do that? By telling you that it wasn’t a nuke? Goddamn it, how does telling you that it wasn’t a nuke (when it wasn’t) imply that it was more powerful than a nuke? If a guy fires a gun and some mentally challenged fellow such as you says that it was a nuke, and I correct you and says that it wasn’t a nuke, would that mean that I’m implying that the a bullet from a gun was more powerful than a nuke? Huh, you’re really reaching.
Originally posted by carver9
a nuke would have leveled that entire city.
It depends on the yield…
Originally posted by carver9
You could be right about the superman prime thing, about him being knocked out but again theres nothing thats indicating that he wasnt.
There’s nothing to indicate that he was knocked out. You can’t prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you. You have to prove that he was knocked out, because missing from some panels doesn’t mean knocked out.
Originally posted by carver9
So far theres nothing proving that time trapper didnt do anything to bring superboy back.
Prove that he did resurrect Prime. Once again, the burden of proof is on you.
Originally posted by carver9
He did state that he wanted to use superboy to kill the legion of superheroes, so why not resurrect him with all the damage he has done so far.
Prime wasn’t dead. Johns even said that the Trapper plucked him out of time, not that he brought Prime back to life.
Originally posted by carver9
Again show me some on panel proof showing that superman could physically bust a moon up with physical strength (not fly through). If there is no proof and just words then theres nothing that you can use to put him up there with planet destroying strength.
I just told you that it was said he could destroy planet, not that it was shown. Pay attention.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way superman brags a lot unless you forgot him threatning to punch black adam with a punch that would split a moon in half.
I don’t believe that was hyperbole, seeing as how he can destroy planets with his punches.
Originally posted by carver9
Hes full of hyperbole.
No, hyperbole is when Superboy said Superman can split the planet in half by just sneezing. Saying Superman can destroy a planet is acknowledging his power.
Originally posted by carver9
Question, do you think that black adam could physically destroy a planet?
Sure.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree there is a difference between boasting but the difference between cell boasting and superman boasting is that dragonball character can sense the power of a blast and power levels of villians/heros so cell knew the amount of power that his blast was going to generate
No, he was boasting, mad with power, etc. A typical villain. At one time he claimed he was invincible. Obvious bullshit, since he lost. But seriously, stop bringing Dragonball into this. I know you have a hard on for Dragonball, but try and keep it out of the Comic Book forums. Go search for some hentai and relieve yourself.
Originally posted by carver9
whereas superman dont have anything to back up him destroying a planet.
I’m sure Superman knows what he’s capable of. If he’s thinking to himself that he’s been hitting someone hard enough to destroy planets, I’ll take his word for it that he was striking with enough force to destroy planets.
Originally posted by Rorschach
And how did I do that? By telling you that it wasn’t a nuke? Goddamn it, how does telling you that it wasn’t a nuke (when it wasn’t) imply that it was more powerful than a nuke? If a guy fires a gun and some mentally challenged fellow such as you says that it was a nuke, and I correct you and says that it wasn’t a nuke, would that mean that I’m implying that the a bullet from a gun was more powerful than a nuke? Huh, you’re really reaching.It depends on the yield…
There’s nothing to indicate that he was knocked out. You can’t prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you. You have to prove that he was knocked out, because missing from some panels doesn’t mean knocked out.
Prove that he did resurrect Prime. Once again, the burden of proof is on you.
Prime wasn’t dead. Johns even said that the Trapper plucked him out of time, not that he brought Prime back to life.
I just told you that it was said he could destroy planet, not that it was shown. Pay attention.
I don’t believe that was hyperbole, seeing as how he can destroy planets with his punches.
No, hyperbole is when Superboy said Superman can split the planet in half by just sneezing. Saying Superman can destroy a planet is acknowledging his power.
Sure.
No, he was boasting, mad with power, etc. A typical villain. At one time he claimed he was invincible. Obvious bullshit, since he lost. But seriously, stop bringing Dragonball into this. I know you have a hard on for Dragonball, but try and keep it out of the Comic Book forums. Go search for some hentai and relieve yourself.
I’m sure Superman knows what he’s capable of. If he’s thinking to himself that he’s been hitting someone hard enough to destroy planets, I’ll take his word for it that he was striking with enough force to destroy planets.
I get what youre saying about the nuke thing, my bad.
The shock wave of a nuke alone should destroy a city.
I know the burden of the proof is on me but again he was extremely hurt from the blast, you can tell that by the furious reaction that he gave off while attacking monarch.
I think he was resurrected due to him just appearing there all of a sudden in time trappers face. It appeared as if he brought him back mind, body, and soul. Again theres nothing indicating that he didnt bring him back to life to settle his agendas.
Read the above for comment to your post.
I know that you said that he can destroy planets but again that dont prove that he can. Wolverine say all the time that his claws can cut through anything but it bounced of colossus hide a couple of time. Hulk thought he was stronger then abomination but end up getting knocked the hell out. Gladiator thought that he was going to punch cannonball to the sun but we seen what happened there. Nothing but hyperbole until proven otherwise.
Read above post, show me superman destroying a moon, hell, show me him leveling a city with a mere punch.
Read the above post to your comment about destroying planet. Im pretty sure theres a lot of beings out there that can take over the world until a hero shows up.
This is my last post about dragonball and I agree I do enjoy dragonball but I read comics and relate to comics much more. Just because I think that someone can rip a hole into another character dont mean that I think that character can beat everyone. People have called me a hulk fan, goku fan, wolverine fan, gladiator fan, etc... Cell knew his power and his ability, just like goku knew that frieza would destroy the universe if he didnt kill him. He didnt say that frieza would destroy the planet he stated the universe, so goku must knew his potential.
You can take his word for it but others dont, I consider hyperion to be just as strong as superman but I dont think that he could destroy a planet until I see some on panel proof.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You're talking to an idiot Rorschach. I shouldn't bother with anyone who thinks pussyboy Sentry can beat SMP.
I dont think that sentry would beat superman prime but I do think that sentry would hold his own for a little bit and then get his head ripped off. I never said that sentry or gladiator could be him but trust me I honestly think that both would give him a run for there money. Sentry is so underrated on this forum that its ridiculous but hey, its not up for me to convince you, its the writer job.
I would love for you to show me that post where I said that sentry would beat superman prime. Ill be waiting.
Originally posted by carver9
The shock wave of a nuke alone should destroy a city.
It depends on the goddamn yield!
Originally posted by carver9
I know the burden of the proof is on me but again he was extremely hurt from the blast, you can tell that by the furious reaction that he gave off while attacking monarch.
That’s the kind of character Prime is. He complains about the slightest thing. He’s even cried during fights.
I’m sure he was hurt by the blast, just not hurt to a great degree. He didn’t complain of any pain after the destruction of Earth-15, but I doubt Monarch’s initial blast was more powerful than that.
Originally posted by carver9
I think he was resurrected due to him just appearing there all of a sudden in time trappers face. It appeared as if he brought him back mind, body, and soul.
The Time Trapper plucked him out of time. He did not resurrect him. The Time Trapper can take a person from one place in time and put them in another. That’s why Prime appeared in front of the Trapper.
Originally posted by carver9
Again theres nothing indicating that he didnt bring him back to life to settle his agendas.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that he was resurrected. I can’t prove a negative. Besides, Johns has stated that Prime was plucked out of time, not resurrected.
Originally posted by carver9
I know that you said that he can destroy planets but again that dont prove that he can. Wolverine say all the time that his claws can cut through anything but it bounced of colossus hide a couple of time. Hulk thought he was stronger then abomination but end up getting knocked the hell out. Gladiator thought that he was going to punch cannonball to the sun but we seen what happened there. Nothing but hyperbole until proven otherwise.
You just don’t get it do you. Superman thinking to himself that he’s been hitting Konvikt hard enough to destroy planets is Superman commenting on the amount of power he’s been exerting. Wolverine failing to cut Colossus, Hulk losing to Abomination, and Gladiator not punching Cannonball to the Sun, are cases of a character failing to do accomplish what they thought they would do because of the opponents that they were facing. Wolverine didn’t accurately gauge Colossus, Hulk didn’t accurately gauge Abomination, and Gladiator didn’t take Cannonball’s powers into consideration. Superman thinking to himself was different. He didn’t try to destroy a planet and fail, he simply commented on the amount of power he was exerting.
Originally posted by carver9
show me superman destroying a moon, hell, show me him leveling a city with a mere punch.
Did you read my goddam posts? I’ve told you already, it’s been said that he can destroy a planet, not shown.
Originally posted by carver9
Im pretty sure theres a lot of beings out there that can take over the world until a hero shows up.
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
Originally posted by carver9
Cell knew his power and his ability
Yeah, just like Vegeta knew he was the most powerful being in the Universe. Oh wait…
Originally posted by carver9
just like goku knew that frieza would destroy the universe if he didnt kill him. He didnt say that frieza would destroy the planet he stated the universe, so goku must knew his potential.
Then Goku was full of shit. Freeza’s goal was to become immortal and rule the Universe, not destroy it.
Originally posted by carver9
You can take his word for it but others don’t
Of course you won’t. You get off on downplaying Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
I consider hyperion to be just as strong as superman but I dont think that he could destroy a planet until I see some on panel proof.
That’s irrelevant, unless Hyperion has stated to himself that he can destroy planets.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You're talking to an idiot Rorschach. I shouldn't bother with anyone who thinks pussyboy Sentry can beat SMP.
Yes, I know that the dude isn't ok the in the head. But hey, someone's got to respond to his crap.
Originally posted by carver9Sentry at his greatest level of power could not beat World War Hulk. 😐
I dont think that sentry would beat superman prime but I do think that sentry would hold his own for a little bit and then get his head ripped off. I never said that sentry or gladiator could be him but trust me I honestly think that both would give him a run for there money. Sentry is so underrated on this forum that its ridiculous but hey, its not up for me to convince you, its the writer job.I would love for you to show me that post where I said that sentry would beat superman prime. Ill be waiting.
Originally posted by Rorschach
It depends on the yield…
This is true:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/212/hrxmen03618pd6.jpg
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuclear
Main Entry: nu·cle·ar
Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klç-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\
Function: adjective
Date: 1846
1: of, relating to, or constituting a nucleus
2 a: of or relating to the atomic nucleus <nuclear reaction> <nuclear physics> b: used in or produced by a nuclear reaction (as fission) <nuclear fuel> <nuclear waste> <nuclear energy> c (1): being a weapon whose destructive power derives from an uncontrolled nuclear reaction (2): of, produced by, or involving nuclear weapons <the nuclear age> <nuclear war> (3): armed with nuclear weapons <nuclear powers> d: of, relating to, or powered by nuclear energy <a nuclear submarine> <the nuclear debate> <a nuclear plant>
3: crazy, berserk —usually used in the phrase go nuclear
usage Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in \-kyə-lər\ have been found in widespread use among educated speakers including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, United States cabinet members, and at least two United States presidents and one vice president. While most common in the United States, these pronunciations have also been heard from British and Canadian speakers.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fission
Fission
Main Entry: 1fis·sion
Pronunciation: \ˈfi-shən, -zhən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin fission-, fissio, from findere to split — more at bite
Date: circa 1617
1 : a splitting or breaking up into parts
2 : reproduction by spontaneous division of the body into two or more parts each of which grows into a complete organism
3 : the splitting of an atomic nucleus resulting in the release of large amounts of energy
— fis·sion·al \-shə-nəl, -zhə-\ adjective
So basically Jubilee was a walking nuclear fission bomb. You didn't see ALL of her blasts leveling citys.
Obviously the yeild was too low.
guys, leys keep the personal stuff out of it, also:
Originally posted by carver9
By the way superman brags a lot unless you forgot him threatning to punch black adam with a punch that would split a moon in half. Hes full of hyperbole.
thats incorrect, in fact, superman is probably the LEAST likely character in comics to brag, as he's so (even to his own detriment) honest...
Performing independent actions simultaneously in 2 different cities easily proves that Supes is a lot faster than Carver gives him credit for.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/c16.jpg
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, pretty much. Thor, Hulk, Ironman, most of the main heroes, would be crushed by SMP.
yeah and hes in a totally diffrent league then thoses charcters mentioned you cant compare SMP to hulk or classic thor or surfer lol or ironman.
Now if we really want to make it fair.
Lets see what prime does to thanos with his upgrade with some prep times or hmm mabey even galactus. Or mabey even a pissed off tyrant.
Or mabey LT.
I think SMP may do well aginst the skyfathers in this world due to the fact i dont see any skyfather in marvel slugging it out with him. I dont know what odin will do to him due to the fact that SMP has insanely high magical resistances.
Originally posted by Raoul
guys, leys keep the personal stuff out of it, also:thats incorrect, in fact, superman is probably the LEAST likely character in comics to brag, as he's so (even to his own detriment) honest...
Superman is like the most humble of all charachters, i have never seen him brag in a comic.
Hulk's also survived the best that Onslaught could do, and eventually outpowered him.
Hulk's also stated that his "savage" Hulk days were his adolescence, that he has grown in power since then - this was during Tempus Fugit.
Hulk literally is the Strongest One There Is, infinite strength, infinite stamina and a healing factor that literally can raise him from the dead.
