Originally posted by SoljerDo we have proof that Supes can reach c [or anything close to it] in such a short distance? We're only talking about 0.31 of a mile here.
Even if Superman only cruised along at c (and he's capable of much faster), he'd cover the distance in about 1.6 microseconds.That's .0000016 seconds.
How long would it take Shaman to perform one action?
Not saying he hasn't done it. I'd just like some clarification, is all.
Originally posted by -K-M-
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Shaman can instantly freeze time. If he "Shush"'s simultaneously with the onset of battle it's curtains for Supes. Don't forget, per forum rules, both opponents are primed and ready to go at the implied "gun". Though Supes has his "speedblitz", can he realistically cover .5 km to beat an instantaneous time stop that occurs simultaneously and is synchronized with the onset of battle?
If Shaman acts at the gun, as, per the forum rules, he's perfectly capable of doing because he's primed for battle and there is an implied start buzzer to signify battle commencing; if he acts simultaneously with that buzzer, he likely beats Supes.
Originally posted by Galan007
Do we have proof that Supes can reach c [or anything close to it] in such a short distance? We're only talking about 0.31 of a mile here.Not saying he hasn't done it. I'd just like some clarification, is all.
Good point. What is Supes rate of acceleration? Can he achieve ftl speed instantly?
Originally posted by illadelph12
Shaman can instantly freeze time. If he "Shush"'s simultaneously with the onset of battle it's curtains for Supes. Don't forget, per forum rules, both opponents are primed and ready to go at the implied "gun". Though Supes has his "speedblitz", can he realistically cover .5 km to beat an instantaneous time stop that occurs simultaneously and is synchronized with the onset of battle?If Shaman acts at the gun, as, per the forum rules, he's perfectly capable of doing because he's primed for battle and there is an implied start buzzer to signify battle commencing; if he acts simultaneously with that buzzer, he likely beats Supes.
So what you're basically asking is whether Superman would be able to cover 0.5 km before someone can say "shush", right? Are you seriously gonna ask that question?
Interesting posts, although let me ask. Why bother with Superman's blitz speed, or debates about his acceleration time (check out when he rescued Lois when he was miles ....not a fraction of a mile ...away, and some perp fired a bullet at her ....the bullet had already left the barrel ...and he managed to travel all that distance, catch the bullet before it hit Lois, and even stuffed cotton wool in her ears so that the sound effect from his movement would not affect her) .....in my opinion Superman is not a character you want to get into a stand-off start with, with only a fraction of a mile between you two.
In my opinion, Superman's speedblitz is a bit like Doom's prep or Strange's sorcery or Hal's willpower .....extremely versatile, and instant game ender. And the dude's respect page has feat upon speed feat that shows half a mile is nothing for the dude (again, using ONE example, think of what he did when Lois was getting shot and he was miles away and the bullet had already left!)
But that is not important.
Why?
Because the two start off facing each other .....looking at each other .....and one of the characters can emit energy from his eyes that is hotter than solar plasma ....
Why even bother flying towards Shaman, when you are already looking at a guy who is ONLY half a mile away from you, and your eyes can reignite dead stars .......
Unless someone will now argue that light does not travel at light speed?
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
So what you're basically asking is whether Superman would be able to cover 0.5 km before someone can say "shush", right? Are you seriously gonna ask that question?
No, I'm asking whether Superman can cover .5 km versus an opponent that could stop time simultaneously with the onset of battle by synchronizing their first action with the implied buzzer.
Hypothetically, lets say the signal that signifies the onset of battle is like the light used to begin a drag race:
Essentially, if Shaman says "Shush" at the exact same moment the light changes from yellow to green, not waiting for the light to turn green and then saying "shush". Remember, per forum rules both characters are primed and ready to go. Both would already have their first actions determined since they know they are going into battle and know who their opponent is, as well as knowing the general info on their opponent. If both of them acted simultaneously with the onset of battle, which attack would land first, a .5 km ftl speed blitz, or an instant time freeze?
Originally posted by spetznaz
Interesting posts, although let me ask. Why bother with Superman's blitz speed, or debates about his acceleration time (check out when he rescued Lois when he was miles ....not a fraction of a mile ...away, and some perp fired a bullet at her ....the bullet had already left the barrel ...and he managed to travel all that distance, catch the bullet before it hit Lois, and even stuffed cotton wool in her ears so that the sound effect from his movement would not affect her) .....in my opinion Superman is not a character you want to get into a stand-off start with, with only a fraction of a mile between you two.In my opinion, Superman's speedblitz is a bit like Doom's prep or Strange's sorcery or Hal's willpower .....extremely versatile, and instant game ender. And the dude's respect page has feat upon speed feat that shows half a mile is nothing for the dude (again, using ONE example, think of what he did when Lois was getting shot and he was miles away and the bullet had already left!)
But that is not important.
Why?
Because the two start off facing each other .....looking at each other .....and one of the characters can emit energy from his eyes that is hotter than solar plasma ....
Why even bother flying towards Shaman, when you are already looking at a guy who is ONLY half a mile away from you, and your eyes can reignite dead stars .......
Unless someone will now argue that light does not travel at light speed?
Question here would be whether Supes flies faster than his heat vision travels.
As I stated above, if both synchronized their attacks with the onset of battle I'm not exactly sure which would trump the other.
Originally posted by spetznazYou missed the point [of my post at least]. I wasn't saying that Superman is incapable of traveling at ridiculous speeds in a relatively short distance/amount of time. I was just looking for clarification [in response to Soljer's initial post/figures] that Superman would in fact be able to reach c in a mere .5km [0.31 miles] - as the figures he gave, were based off of such.
Interesting posts, although let me ask. Why bother with Superman's blitz speed, or debates about his acceleration time (check out when he rescued Lois when he was miles ....not a fraction of a mile ...away, and some perp fired a bullet at her ....the bullet had already left the barrel ...and he managed to travel all that distance, catch the bullet before it hit Lois, and even stuffed cotton wool in her ears so that the sound effect from his movement would not affect her)
In general though, I'd tend to agree with this:
Originally posted by illadelph12
if both synchronized their attacks with the onset of battle I'm not exactly sure which would trump the other.
Toss a coin. ermm
Originally posted by Galan007
You missed the point [of my post at least]. I wasn't saying that Superman is incapable of traveling at ridiculous speeds in a relatively short distance/amount of time. I was just looking for clarification [in response to Soljer's initial post/figures] that Superman would in fact be able to reach c in a mere .5km [0.31 miles] - as the figures he gave, were based off of such.In general though, I'd tend to agree with this:
Is that Dooku in your avatar?
Originally posted by spetznaznice post, but superman isn't going to kill shaman, his method of incapacitation will be non-lethal and that could give shaman the opening he needs.
Interesting posts, although let me ask. Why bother with Superman's blitz speed, or debates about his acceleration time (check out when he rescued Lois when he was miles ....not a fraction of a mile ...away, and some perp fired a bullet at her ....the bullet had already left the barrel ...and he managed to travel all that distance, catch the bullet before it hit Lois, and even stuffed cotton wool in her ears so that the sound effect from his movement would not affect her) .....in my opinion Superman is not a character you want to get into a stand-off start with, with only a fraction of a mile between you two.In my opinion, Superman's speedblitz is a bit like Doom's prep or Strange's sorcery or Hal's willpower .....extremely versatile, and instant game ender. And the dude's respect page has feat upon speed feat that shows half a mile is nothing for the dude (again, using ONE example, think of what he did when Lois was getting shot and he was miles away and the bullet had already left!)
But that is not important.
Why?
Because the two start off facing each other .....looking at each other .....and one of the characters can emit energy from his eyes that is hotter than solar plasma ....
Why even bother flying towards Shaman, when you are already looking at a guy who is ONLY half a mile away from you, and your eyes can reignite dead stars .......
Unless someone will now argue that light does not travel at light speed?
