Shaman vs Superman

Started by Avlon7 pages

Originally posted by spetznaz
Interesting posts, although let me ask. Why bother with Superman's blitz speed, or debates about his acceleration time (check out when he rescued Lois when he was miles ....not a fraction of a mile ...away, and some perp fired a bullet at her ....the bullet had already left the barrel ...and he managed to travel all that distance, catch the bullet before it hit Lois, and even stuffed cotton wool in her ears so that the sound effect from his movement would not affect her) .....in my opinion Superman is not a character you want to get into a stand-off start with, with only a fraction of a mile between you two.

In my opinion, Superman's speedblitz is a bit like Doom's prep or Strange's sorcery or Hal's willpower .....extremely versatile, and instant game ender. And the dude's respect page has feat upon speed feat that shows half a mile is nothing for the dude (again, using ONE example, think of what he did when Lois was getting shot and he was miles away and the bullet had already left!)

But that is not important.

Why?

Because the two start off facing each other .....looking at each other .....and one of the characters can emit energy from his eyes that is hotter than solar plasma ....

Why even bother flying towards Shaman, when you are already looking at a guy who is ONLY half a mile away from you, and your eyes can reignite dead stars .......

Unless someone will now argue that light does not travel at light speed?

Damn, beat me to it. HV is all that's really needed in this fight. Even when it comes to magic, Superman has dealt with it so many times already with various foes that even that is not any kind of instant win. Unless Shaman is more powerful than skyfather and skyfather+ level characters (Blaze, Dominus, Disciple, etc.) he would still need some heavy artillery spells to handle Supes.

As well as instant is all relative. Instant for a human level character is still far slower than what instant should be for a kryptonian.

When it comes to speed, there is a scan in the respect thread where Superman moves Batman to a different country in mid-sentence before he can finish a thought. .5 kilometers really is nothing compared to that.

Superman for the win.

He has items, which he used to beat an Elder God that was said "and just for a single wretching moment the universe itself seems to blink out of existence, like a soap bubble suddenly impaled on a thorn" .

He definetly has the power

Originally posted by Avlon
Instant for a human level character is still far slower than what instant should be for a kryptonian.
Faster and slower levels of instant, eh?

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Originally posted by Avlon
When it comes to speed, there is a scan in the respect thread where Superman moves Batman to a different country in mid-sentence before he can finish a thought. .5 kilometers really is nothing compared to that.
But do we know Superman was moving at c within that .5km? That's all I wanted clarification on, personally.

Originally posted by Galan007
Faster and slower levels of instant, eh?

"Instant" is a relative term when it deals with perception and reaction.

Originally posted by Galan007
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But do we know Superman was moving at c within that .5km? That's all I wanted clarification on, personally.

Nice 404 😛

There are just too many instances of superman moving at incredible speeds (even in place) to properly gauge anything. All that matters is that he is far far faster than human thought.

Originally posted by Avlon
Instant" is a relative term when it deals with perception and reaction.
M'kay, but if they both react instantly - they'd be moving at exactly the same rate, because instant is instant. That's all I'ze saying. 😛

Originally posted by Avlon
Nice 404 😛
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Originally posted by Avlon
There are just too many instances of superman moving at incredible speeds (even in place) to properly gauge anything. All that matters is that he is far far faster than human thought.
Ohh I know Superman is ridiculously fast. I just wanted to know if the possibility of him moving at c in just .31 of a mile, has been established anywhere - or if it was just an opinion/guesstimate.

Heh! I remember one thread where it was Superman vs. all of Alpha Flight (every member ever) and I was the only one who said AF had a chance and I got called a fanboy. My have the times have changed.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Heh! I remember one thread where it was Superman vs. all of Alpha Flight (every member ever) and I was the only one who said AF had a chance and I got called a fanboy. My have the times have changed.
alpha flight DOESN'T stand a chance against Superman...

Originally posted by Starscream M
alpha flight DOESN'T stand a chance against Superman...

Lulz, considering how your knowledge of them is marginal at best your ignorant comment is not suprizing.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Lulz, considering how your knowledge of them is marginal at best your ignorant comment is not suprizing.
pwnage! masterbruce cannot find a comeback to erase that.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Lulz, considering how your knowledge of them is marginal at best your ignorant comment is not suprizing.
i know enough to know they pose virtually no threat to Superman

Originally posted by Starscream M
i know enough to know they pose virtually no threat to Superman

Really now? Oh do tell, who do you think are the top 5 strongest members of Alpha Flight and give a reason. Some members were going to be used to take over the multi-verse. YES! The multiverse, now who do you think that was?

Let me guess your going to cry foul that I'm asking you a question you have no idea, and you will tell me to stop questioning you in order to divert answering the question. That sum it up?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Really now? Oh do tell, who do you think are the top 5 strongest members of Alpha Flight and give a reason. Some members were going to be used to take over the multi-verse. YES! The multiverse, now who do you think that was?

Let me guess your going to cry foul that I'm asking you a question you have no idea, and you will tell me to stop questioning you in order to divert answering the question. That sum it up?

To be fair, he doesn't know all that much about Superman...

Originally posted by -K-M-
Really now? Oh do tell, who do you think are the top 5 strongest members of Alpha Flight and give a reason. Some members were going to be used to take over the multi-verse. YES! The multiverse, now who do you think that was as well?

Let me guess your going to cry foul that I'm asking you a question you have no idea, and you will tell me to stop questioning you in order to divert answering the question. That sum it up?

I cant name 5, cuz only 2 are impressive:

Shaman: summoning

Sasquatch: tanaraq

Originally posted by Starscream M
I cant name 5, cuz only 2 are impressive:

Shaman: summoning

Sasquatch: tanaraq

Only 2 are impressive? Lulz, Marrina was changing the entire ocean and was shrugging off the blows from the Avengers and could have easily destroyed Atlantis all by herself. Mac was built to take on Galactus and he did, he even defeated a weakened Galactus with one shot when the combined might of Sersi, Hercules, Vindicator, Windshear, Vision, BOX IV, Quasar, Her, etc. failed to do so. Witchfire was the person who was going to be used to take over the multi-verse as said by her father Belasco, shall I continue? Properly shouldn't as all this will fall on deaf ears.

Shaman summoning? what?

Sasquatch is one, and do you think Superman can take Tanaraq?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Only 2 are impressive? Lulz, Marrina was changing the entire ocean and was shrugging off the blows from the Avengers and could have easily destroyed Atlantis all by herself. Mac was built to take on Galactus and he did, he even defeated a weakened Galactus with one shot when the combined might of Sersi, Hercules, Vindicator, Windshear, Vision, BOX IV, Quasar, Her, etc. failed to do so. Witchfire was the person who was going to be used to take over the multi-verse as said by her father Belasco, shall I continue? Properly shouldn't as all this will fall on deaf ears.

Shaman summoning? what?

Sasquatch is one, and do you think Superman can take Tanaraq?

I love how you're pulling these one time events to illustrate your point

btw, which Alpha Flight were you referring to? you can't just pick and choose the most powerful members from the various alpha flights.

I don't know if Superman can take Tanaraq, can Tanaraq even fly?

Tanaraq is an elder god. Superman beating him isn't an option for the most part.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I love how you're pulling these one time events to illustrate your point

btw, which Alpha Flight were you referring to? you can't just pick and choose the most powerful members from the various alpha flights.

I don't know if Superman can take Tanaraq, can Tanaraq even fly?

Please...just stop.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I love how you're pulling these one time events to illustrate your point

btw, which Alpha Flight were you referring to? you can't just pick and choose the most powerful members from the various alpha flights.

I don't know if Superman can take Tanaraq, can Tanaraq even fly?

One time events? Uuuuuuh, I suggest you actually you know...read the comics.

Actually I can, as the thread I mentioned was all the members of Alpha Flight EVER and then you came in with your ignorant comment. Which is not a shock as you clearly are putting your foot in your mouth..again. How powerful do you think Windshear is or Snowbird, or BOX IV? Also why is Shaman the top 5 strongest member for..summoning? Did I hear that right?

hahahaha

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Tanaraq is an elder god. Superman beating him isn't an option for the most part.
whatever...Tanaraq isn't really part of Alpha Flight anyways.

Originally posted by Starscream M
whatever...Tanaraq isn't really part of Alpha Flight anyways.

He's part of Sasquatch;s powerset, without Tanaraq you don't have Sasquatch. Even Immortal Snowbird can take his form 😬

Facts > you