Originally posted by NeverIIRC, in "Annihilation," his Threat Level is listed as universal, same as Galactus, Tenebrous and Aegis.
Silver Surfer is a planetary level threat.
Originally posted by janus77I'm inclined toward stalemate. From what I understand, I think Trion is too powerful to be stopped by SS. On the other hand, like you, I don't see how TJ could hit/catch the Surfer.
Stalemate/edge to Surfer. nothing Trion can possibly do to hit/catch Surfer.Surfer could probably wear Trion down with energy and matter manipulation use, also with synthesis of magic.
I dunno, I see Trion as somewhere above Skyfather but encumbered by his lack of range and exotic attacks. he's basically a stationary target with juggernaut like "speed".
if Surfer had been free to hit away at Teneberous or Aegis, I'm sure that they would have, eventually, been KO'd.
also, since Surfer can synthesise Odinforce, which has on-panel, affected Cyttorak's charm... there's a way there too, to at the very least hurt Trion. or maybe he can take the fight to the astral plane (Cyttorak himself seems quite useless there, viz the battle with Juggernaut)...
I think Trion's being a might too over-hyped by people here, with comparisons to Galactus and setting up battles against Spectre etcetera.
Originally posted by Never
Silver Surfer is a planetary level threat. Trion is well above that.
Surfer can output power sufficient to create black holes and reignite stars... clearly he's much more than that.
This scan alone make me think that he would trash surfer.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/trion_juggs1.jpg
Remember thor couldnt even faze 8th day juggernaut with none of his power. 8th day Juggernaut basically walked through everything thor dished out and kept going, thor=surfer and on panel thor has bested surfer. Now trion>>>8th day juggernaut. Trion wont even register surfer being there just like 8th day did to thor.
sorry but that's rather flimsy evidence for such a high placing of the character.
as I mentioned before, Hulk has smashed through the time stream, and without much effort.
nothing in the scans suggested 'universe wrecking' powers, nor do we see any conceivable offensive range-attacks. basically even if he had the might of a Galactus, he still hasn't shown any mobility or projectile attacks so Surfer's basically gonna stalemate him for eternity. nothing he can do to Surfer, unless Surfer permits it.
as for feats of endurance, I'd say taking a pounding from Tenebreous or Aegis and surviving ranks higher than the GodBlast.
for one thing, these are creatures in Galactus' tier, rather than Skyfather/high herald levels. for another, Surfer can completely regenerate from the ambient power cosmic, given time, so whatever Trion does, Surfer just needs to lie on his board and have it transport him out of reach of Trion, then recover from the injuries sustained...
I can't see Trion winning, it'd be reaching in the extreme to suggest Surfer wouldn't stalemate him.
Originally posted by Galan007
I never saw regular Juggs physically bust through dimensions, like cheap wooden doors:*shrugs*
if tom thought he was more powerful that's good enough for me. still see no way he ever hits ss let alone beats him. not sure what ss could do offensively to him though so . . .
as most juggs matches -- stalemate or ss wins via bfr.
SS can't land any decisive blows while Trion couldnt catch him, I could see that argument working except SS is constantly hit by guys slower then himself. Thor, Thanos,Black panther and even venom have all managed to tag him in the past so I dont see why Trion couldnt....plus when trion does tag him its lights out for norin.
