Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, you DO know that he has a home there in Arkansas, right? He has a small cache here in this scenario, simple as that. Or I could have made it so Swagger is shot, on the run, on foot, unarmed, in Gotham, THEN Batman confronts him, but how fair is that? Thats like offering up a mouse to a cobra.

Swagger escapes Gotham, escapes the authorities, THEN Batman goes after him. Batman isn't enlisted to capture him until Swagger has time to prepare.

"So you know for fact that Swagger could trek to some flatlands before a highly trained and light armoured athlete could catch up with him and diable him? That's rediculous. He wouldn't make it a matter of metres before Batman got to him."

You must realise this is undeniable. There's simply no way Swagger could run away (what with all the equipment he's carrying) faster than Batman could catch him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because you've exhausted every approach to Swagger winning. I believe Batman did evade machine gun fire in the movies.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
From someone with Swaggers training? From one of the finest marksmen in the world?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Swagger escapes Gotham, escapes the authorities, THEN Batman goes after him. Batman isn't enlisted to capture him until Swagger has time to prepare.

And we've come full circle again. Batman would also have time to prepare and he would have done his homework on Swagger and been fully aware of what Swagger could do before he confronted him. If you knew anything of Batman, you'd know that being proactive is a defining quality of his and rolling up in the Batmobile, thereby effectively negating the element of surprise is something Batman wouldn't do. Ergo, your scenario is biased/shit and you simply want Swagger the military-man-good-ole-boy-American-hick to win, so you set it up where you erroneously thought he could win.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Alright, all's just about fair there, and so far we've nailed it down to you admitting Batman could scare ol' Swagger down to the flatlands. Now, onto my point about that.

"So you know for fact that Swagger could trek to some flatlands before a highly trained and light armoured athlete could catch up with him and diable him? That's rediculous. He wouldn't make it a matter of metres before Batman got to him."

You must realise this is undeniable. There's simply no way Swagger could run away (what with all the equipment he's carrying) faster than Batman could catch him.

Bob Lee escapes Gotham, heals from his wounds, and KNOWS Batman will soon come for him. He retreats to Arkansas, goes to his house and retrieves the weaponry we earlier agreed upon.

Is it that hard to understand?

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Like i said, Batman wouldn't get himself into this kind of a situation. He's a tactical genius, why would he give his opponent an opening to fill him full of holes?

Originally posted by Robtard
And we've come full circle again. Batman would also have time to prepare and he would have done his homework on Swagger and been fully aware of what Swagger could do before he confronted him. If you knew anything of Batman, you'd know that being proactive is a defining quality of his and rolling up in the Batmobile, thereby effectively negating the element of surprise is something Batman wouldn't do. Ergo, your scenario is biased/shit and you simply want Swagger the military-man-good-ole-boy-American-hick to win, so you set it up where you erroneously thought he could win.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, read very carefully. This follows the storyline of Shooter.

Bob Lee escapes Gotham, heals from his wounds, and KNOWS Batman will soon come for him. He retreats to Arkansas, goes to his house and retrieves the weaponry we earlier agreed upon.

Is it that hard to understand?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why was he almost killed by Harvey two face? shit happens, Batman aint perfect, he makes mistakes.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Harvey two face?

Oh and thread has reached critical mass.

Originally posted by Röland
"Two-Face"

Oh and thread has reached critical mass.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
It's stunning. Joint, everyone has disproved him a hundredfold, yet he won't just admit that Swagger is going down.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Yeah, and we've got further than that. You're back the start, RJ, while I'm basing what I'm saying after Batman has avoided his sniper fire and is chasing Swagger across the hill to the flatlands. Swagger isn't getting anywhere. Seriously, do you even know what you've been saying in the last page or so?

Oh, and Swagger is? He got shot 2 times and fell out a window, I think that's pretty much even by being almost killed by a criminal mastermind, eh?

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Or, more like the idea of that happening, since after all it is all opinion, really.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude....Swagger will surely realize while Batman is a good distance away, IF Batman avoids the sniper fire, that he must retreat, he isnt gonna wait until Batman is on top of him.
Yes, and Swagger escaped several police and FBI cruisers, not to mention an aerial search, on his own. Batman had to be rescued by ROBIN.

Yeah, and Batman also fought and defeated a large number of deadly ninjas almost equal to his level of training, if nor more. Like i said, seem we're equal on that base, eh?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Exactly, opinion, thats all it is.

Opinions aren't created equal though. Some are based on logic and solid rational, others are based on pure unfiltered shit. See?

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
But Batman is probably, at top speed, over double, maybe even 3 times the speed of an average person due to his athletic ability and training. While Swagger may be a pretty good marine overall, he won't outrun Batman. Batman would be on him way before Swagger go to the flatlands.

Yeah, and Batman also fought and defeated a large number of deadly ninjas almost equal to his level of training, if nor more. Like i said, seem we're equal on that base, eh?

Originally posted by Robtard
Opinions aren't created equal though. Some are based on logic and solid rational, others are based on pure unfiltered shit. See?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Swagger is the dumbass inbred ******* he is being made out to be here, then you are right.

Whats that got to do with the whole "shit happens" thing we are talking about? We were talking about how neither man is perfect, that they make mistakes in battle, weren't we?

Then why did you then start discussing his escape from the search? Don't be a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It isnt shown invisible in the movies, is it? It is shown running silent, thats all.

How did that helicopter and police lose sight of him then, when they were right behind him, when he had "stealth mode" on?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Scene 2, check it out.I already told you that.

Yea. I've already seen it. Point?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

The agent who recruits Swagger is a highly trained operative, I think he knows what counter intel is.

Who cares what you think? Lets go back to the facts from the movie (maybe for the first time for you). He showed he clearly didn't know what counter-intel is. And neither do you since you keep arguing against it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And your mother should have swallowed, where does that leave us?

Reported 😎

Originally posted by Robtard
Opinions aren't created equal though. Some are based on logic and solid rational, others are based on pure unfiltered shit. See?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK 😆

Robtard says something, you respond with an "OK *laugh smiley*"...