Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This thread is a joke.

It has actually degenerated into such crap that I find it hard to believe even RJ is denying it.

"I can be convinced, I just haven't been.".

This is pure proof that you can't, won't and don't want to be. You've chosen Swagger, you chose Swagger before the thread was even made.

The only development this thread can now have is to be locked. Nobody has gone for Swagger except you, RJ.

-AC

1. Batman sitting in the Batmobile throughout the battle and letting the Batmobile do all the work, of course Swagger is killed. Hardly fair for any man to face a 5 ton killing machine, is it?

2. Hand to hand combat, Swagger gets some hits in, but in the end he loses.

3. If it comes down to Batman approaching on foot, as it should be, Swagger owns him due to his incredible marksmanship. This is how it should be, man against man, not man against a rolling invincible beast.

4. That Batman CANNOT dodge bullets, that Swagger will NOT miss if he sees Batman.

5. Batman wouldnt level an entire forest to take out one man. If he would do this, why not just sit back in the confines of Wayne manor and call in an air strike?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So now its turned into Bob Lee versus the Batmobile. 😆 Batman resorting to such feats speaks volumes for Swaggers skills, you really think Batman would do all what you said for one man?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

On another note, you think Batman is going to let the batmobile do all the work? That seems kinda chicken shit, sorta looks like he would be afraid to face Swagger.

Are you ****ing serious? You're the one that setup the scenario where Swagger the uber man has set up nest and tucked himself safely away and Batman is rolling up in the Batmobile. YOU DID THIS, clown.

Of note, if you know you're facing an expert sniper who is already in a safe and concealed position, it would be common intelligence to not just run up.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
5. Batman wouldnt level an entire forest to take out one man. If he would do this, why not just sit back in the confines of Wayne manor and call in an air strike?

Originally posted by Scythe
How does Swagger shoot tires that are at the back of the vehicle? Nevermind, don't answer that, I've heard enough.

Hahahaha, I like how you've resorted to poking fun at Batman, hahaha, look at the other posters, who's been making a fool out of Swagger? Yeah, what a pity. I'm sorry RJ.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

3. If it comes down to Batman approaching on foot, as it should be, Swagger owns him due to his incredible marksmanship. This is how it should be, man against man, not man against a rolling invincible beast.

Sniper rifle verses man on foot who is conveniently far, far away and targeted isn't "man against man", clowny.

Edit: It does show our clear bias in having Swagger (your hero) kill another character, so you set up a precise scenario for this to happen, good job in being objective.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you ****ing serious? You're the one that setup the scenario where Swagger the uber man has set up nest and tucked himself safely away and Batman is rolling up in the Batmobile. YOU DID THIS, clown.

Of note, if you know you're facing an expert sniper who is already in a safe and concealed position, it would be common intelligence to not just run up.

I said Batman APPROACHES in the Batmobile, I started the thread to test Batmans skills against Swaggers skills.

On a side note, you really think Batman would go to such lengths to apprehend one man? Level an entire forest? Run him over and kill him? Batman doesnt kill, remember? Its painfully obvious that he would opt to eventually exit his vehicle and approach on foot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sniper rifle verses man on foot who is conveniently far, far away and targeted isn't "man against man", clowny.

Edit: It does show our clear bias in having Swagger (your hero) kill another character, so you set up a precise scenario for this to happen, good job in being objective.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why not? 😐 Why get his hands dirty when vehicles could blow Swagger to ****?

batman controls the tumbler via remote to distract swagger then approaches from a completely different way and then stomps on his face until he is dead...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Batman is the stealth master he is made out to be, he wouldnt just run up, would he?

I said Batman APPROACHES in the Batmobile, I started the thread to test Batmans skills against Swaggers skills.

On a side note, you really think Batman would go to such lengths to apprehend one man? Level an entire forest? Run him over and kill him? Batman doesnt kill, remember? Its painfully obvious that he would opt to eventually exit his vehicle and approach on foot.

Your scenario was flawed from the start, as I noted early on. Iif you knew anything about Batman, you'd know that he is a genius and unparallelled tactician. He would have done his homework on Swagger and been fully detailed on Swagger's abilities. So he definitely wouldn't roll-up in the Batmobile and give away his position to a known expert sniper. Your scenario goes against the very essense of Batman's character.

He would have approached stealthily on foot or from the air and taken out Swagger that way. He's defeated and outsmarted far more proficient foes, Swagger, a well armed military man would prove little difficulty, since BAtman is a master at stealth.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then I guess Batman isnt as skilled as you are making him out to be. If he can take on bad guys by the dozen, why cant he take on one man by himself? He takes on armed bad guys toe to toe all the time, right?

Because your scenario gimps him from the start by giving away his position, which is something he simply WOULDN'T DO when facing a positioned expert sniper, which part of that can't you grasp?

Originally posted by Robtard
Your scenario was flawed from the start, as I noted early on. Iif you knew anything about Batman, you'd know that he is a genius and unparallelled tactician. He would have done his homework on Swagger and been fully detailed on Swagger's abilities. So he definitely wouldn't roll-up in the Batmobile and give away his position to a known expert+ sniper. Your scenario goes against the very essense of Batman's character.

He would have approached stealthily on foot or from the air and taken out Swagger that way. He's defeated and outsmarted far more proficient foes, Swagger, a well armed military man would prove little difficulty, since BAtman is a master at stealth.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Really? Who has Batman faced with training that comes close to what Swagger has?

Deadshot. He has a "never miss" clause. Anything else you need answered?

Edit: Also Deathstroke. The greatest assassin in the DC universe.

Either of these guys make Swagger look like a guy in bootcamp.

Originally posted by jaden101
batman controls the tumbler via remote to distract swagger then approaches from a completely different way and then stomps on his face until he is dead...

He wouldn't stomp his face dead, he'd wipe his ass with Swagger while he's preoccupied with the Batmobile heading straight toward him, haha.

I think we have a winner, this scenerio fails to show what Swagger would do if he's faced with the Batmobile gunning straight toward him and Batman silently sneaking up on him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, if you have seen Shooter, the list is in your head, just as Batmans list is in my head. But, if it will cease your constant whining, here we go:

WEAPONRY/GEAR

.50 Caliber sniper rifle

Bolt Action Sniper rifle (Guessing it is a .308 caliber)

Assault Rifle, I believe it is an M4-A1 assault rifle

Sidearm (let's say glock .45)

Combat Knife

Garrote

Pipe Bombs (remote detonated)

Smoke bombs (remote detonated)

Ghille suit

Camouflage (whatever environment he is in he is virtually invisible)

Binoculars

Not to mention his counter intel training and hand to hand combat skills, tough as nails demeanor, or his amazing resourcefulness.

Did I miss anything?

Cool.

No thermal vision of any sort. Invisible Batmobile takes the win thanks.

And btw, he is not an expert at counter-intel, get that in your head. We're going by whats in the movie, not where you think the scriptwriters made a screw-up and thats your excuse.

Its like saying: yeah the guy who says it in the movie has no idea what he is talking about, but *thats what he was trying to say*.

Originally posted by Placidity
Cool.

No thermal vision of any sort. Invisible Batmobile takes the win thanks.

And btw, he is not an expert at counter-intel, get that in your head. We're going by whats in the movie, not where you think the scriptwriters made a screw-up and thats your excuse.

Its like saying: yeah the guy who says it in the movie has no idea what he is talking about, but *thats what he was trying to say*.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Since when did The Tumbler become invisible. This is Batman, NOT JAMES BOND!

He's talking about the stealth feature it had in Batman Begins when he lost the police on the freeway, I think.

^Um pretty much. I'm just surprised that over 22 pages of discussion I'm the only one that has been arguing that point.

Originally posted by Placidity
^Um pretty much. I'm just surprised that over 22 pages of discussion I'm the only one that has been arguing that point.

All points are worth noting, even the smallest to biggest details, but when the persons plugging their eyes in a: "A-LA-LA-LA-LA I'M NOT LISTENING" fashion, what's the use. Not to mention the fact that it won't go into consideration, it'll always turn out Swagger in the end to RJ. Haha.