Everything is good now. I'm getting over my struggle with rejection from women. I'm glad that I have God on my side, he never rejected me and he sent Christ to pay the price so I could have hope and live blessed in his abundance. I hope you will find fulfillment in him as I am.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Millions of others have suffered crueler or as cruel fates as Jesus' alleged crucifixtion. Many did it with love in their hearts and smiles on their faces. I prefer to worship them collectively, creating pagan idols in their honor while believing they are the sole cause of all existence. I call this collective God, Bob. It helps create a relationship between Bob and I.🙄
Also, one must ask, if he knew that he was the son of God and would be in heaven with God after his death, how much suffering could it truly have been? Presumably, he is the only person in history to know beyond a doubt of such a fate after death. If this is true, it puts his death in perspective and makes it not suffering or rejection at all, but a glorious celebration. So my question isn't how Jesus dealt with negativity....with rejection, suffering, etc. It's how everyone else manages to without such certainty. Wow, how do they do it?
And perfect is subjective, relative to one's view. If Jesus is perfect, it's based on faulty assumptions of objective standards as laid forth by Christian dogma, not on actual truth.
While I see your point, I don't think it was quite a joyous celebration. Being hung on a cross for days while being jeered and whatever else happened to him, Is not the pregame warmup I would want even if I knew it was going to lead to a Superbowl victory so to speak. 😆
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
The point, my dear Watson, is that your beliefs are allegedly based upon reason alone. However, when pressed, one easily discovers that your beliefs are based upon whatever you feel is right (and thus aren't based upon reason at all). You might be able to support some of your beliefs with logical arguments, they will, overall, boil down to "because I said so."
The same can be said for Religion. They base their beliefs on things they believe are right, aka "God's word", and believers can support their beliefs with scriptures, but, yes, they too, usually boil down to "because the Bible/I said so".
Originally posted by Devil King
Not reason alone, but reason and experience and independant assessment. Yes, I believe in what I think because I feel it's right and fair.
Sounds to me like they considered themselves subject of Britain and her King. I also don't remember any mention of these United States of America we're discussing.
Where is the line drawn between barbarian and easy going American muslim?
My objective was to point out that I think you're actually buying that there's a half-woman, half-snake in the little glass box when it's really just a toothless hick with her head through a hole in the floor, pulling the string every few seconds to make the tail move.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Which means, of course, that were you raised in another century or culture, your beliefs would be shifted with them. And you could very well end up wanting to kill the gays.
Which of course means that if you were raised in another time you'd be talking about how the Pope is the ultimate earthly authority on god. Christian interpretations of the bible have not been static for 2000 years. Or maybe you'd be calling for the torture and murder of people at the Salem witch trials. But you and I only have what we are and what we believe or think in the here and now.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Yes, they did consider themselves subject to Britain.
Not subject to; subjects of. They had made no descison to found their own country. They were colonies of the British empire and in 1620 had no intentions of establishing their own independent government.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Does she want to blow herself up on the infidels?
I don't know, you'll have to ask her.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Durn them stoopit Xtians and they'se beliefs.
I didn't say they were stupid, at least not all of them; just like any large group. I just think they've been fooled. And perfectly intellignet people get duped all the time.