How did Christ handle rejection?

Started by Devil King11 pages
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
or you could simply ask my former-partner

I think you've said too much already. I know it happened, but I think revealing it to strangers is a bit much.

That he stood up to a gun-toting nutcase?

Originally posted by Devil King
I think you've said too much already. I know it happened, but I think revealing it to strangers is a bit much.

For the record, I actually believe him. However, I think the point was still valid.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That he stood up to a gun-toting nutcase?

He never said he stood up to this person. He simply said he wasn't afraid.

Originally posted by Devil King
He simply said he wasn't afraid.

Do you believe him?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Do you believe him?

He said it to you. Whether or not I believe him is not in question.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So you confirm, your a liar then?

In other words, you acknowledge that your argument draws an invalid comparison between two dissimilar things; and that you are unable to defeat the argument I presented; so you choose instead to focus on a point that is incidental to my argument in order to detract from this.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
That would have been the easy thing to do rather than pretending to be some sort of hero who stood in the face of death without fear or worry...

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear," Ambrose Redmoon.

Originally posted by Devil King
He said it to you. Whether or not I believe him is not in question.

Yes it is...I just asked you...I assume that means "no but I won't undermine him."

In other words, you acknowledge that your argument draws an invalid comparison between two dissimilar things; and that you are unable to defeat the argument I presented; so you choose instead to focus on a point that is incidental to my argument in order to detract from this.

Yes I do, are you a liar?

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear," Ambrose Redmoon.

"Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the "ape" in apricot? What have they got that I ain't got?"
-The Cowardly Lion

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yes it is...I just asked you...I assume that means "no but I won't undermine him."

No, it means my understanding of the truth of the matter is beyond reproach. I know it's true. You're the one who asked for qualification. I can do that. But it means little more to you than his original statment in this thread, which was addressed to you.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
"Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the "ape" in apricot? What have they got that I ain't got?"
-The Cowardly Lion

This really doesn't help my accusation that you're gay.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yes I do, are you a liar?

No.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
"Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the "ape" in apricot? What have they got that I ain't got?"
-The Cowardly Lion

Interestingly, the moral of The Wizard of Oz is that the Cowardly Lion had been courageous all along; the Tin Man always had a heart; and the Scarecrow always had a brain.

Originally posted by Devil King
This really doesn't help my accusation that you're gay.

hahahah I knew you would say that.

I was going to go for a boring one from some quote website but thought...nah they'll enjoy this more.

Also, I never actually denied it.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
hahahah I knew you would say that.

I was going to go for a boring one from some quote website but thought...nah they'll enjoy this more.

Also, I never actually denied it.

Hey, at least you got a laugh out of it.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Also, I never actually denied it.

Did you just come out of the closet? 😱

Leave him alone.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Did you just come out of the closet? 😱

Have you looked at his sig lately?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Did you just come out of the closet? 😱

Unfortunately, its not quite as "glamerous" as you might want it to be, however, I think JIA and I beat the issue to death in the "Can You Handle The Truth" thread some time ago.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Have you looked at his sig lately?

Yes. 😕

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Unfortunately, its not quite as "glamerous" as you might want it to be, however, I think JIA and I beat the issue to death in the "Can You Handle The Truth" thread some time ago.

Pardon me, I have a thread to re-read. whistling1

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Pardon me, I have a thread to re-read. whistling1

I earned a reputation for being "the gay one" when I defended homosexual Catholic's (and non-Catholics) right to attend Church events.

So, essentially much of the congregation decided that I must be gay myself- however, they never tend to say it to my face.

Father Brimley, the Parish Priest, took my side on the issue though, which made it easier. 🙂

Thus, as a matter of principle I never deny homosexuality- JIA however seemed to disaprove of that and say it was an insult to embrace the sin...

Originally posted by Devil King
How hard are you trying by using a cop-out like "god said so"? Which, if I recall, he did not.

We're not talking about me. We're talking about how secular humanists have to do mental gymnastics to define murder as being fundamentally morally wrong.
right. My statement said of this country. The mayflower compact is no such a thing.

Considering that the pilgrims founded America, yes, it is.
If you said no such a thing, why are they savages and sandniggers?

Because they're barbarians. It has nothing do with Christianity or lack thereof.
No, you imply the permanance of your values and morals (I like the sudden inclusion of the first half of that) because you got them from what you believe to be god; as though there isn't a conscious descision to subscribe to them. It isn't like your validation is greater than mine. It's not my fault your religion is a product of the society that formed it. If anything, I didn't have to bend knee to a mythological character that is nothing more than a retelling of a theme that has existed for thousands of years to draw my inspiration for doing the right thing or not doing the wrong thing. I'm not saying there aren't lessons to be learned from the christian belief system or it's mythology I'm saying it's not the only one that espouses the same rhetoric. And what are those common themes if not evidence that the man-made religions we ascribe to aren't representative of our kinship and the rights we should all enjoy? The only problem is that there are few religions that are willing to admit it, and it's followers would rather spend 2000 years killing each other over how they're espoused.

In short: Everything you regard as morals and values is based upon "because I think this is how it should be."