Star Wars: The Old Republic [KOTOR MMO]

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Originally posted by Nephthys
It has not been announced as being in the final product but it has been spotted in the character customisation screen and in various other videos and by people playing the beta. My scan was not irrelevent. The person says above the table that this was only in the version he played and that its subject to change, which is obvious whenever playing any beta.

YouTube video

A low level Smuggler with cybernetics on his face. There are also other videos with characters with cybernetics. I know I saw one fat guy with a cybernetic eye.

Just because it's in the beta doesn't mean it's in the final version. Also, I would differentiate between "cyborg" and "has a few cybernetics"; there's a big difference. Cyborg generally implies that they are as much robot as they are human (or whatever they were before).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also.

NPCs are not good examples for anything. They can do whatever the developers want them to do, even if it's breaking the game's rules or doing things that players cannot.

Gosh, lotta party poopers up in here.

Originally posted by Peach
Just because it's in the beta doesn't mean it's in the final version. Also, I would differentiate between "cyborg" and "has a few cybernetics"; there's a big difference. Cyborg generally implies that they are as much robot as they are human (or whatever they were before).

Yeah, I know, but its unlikely they'll throw it away for no reason. Especially given the postive reaction to it I'm seeing on their forums.

I found this, which seems to address your point:

Originally Posted by DanielErickson
Hey folks,

Just to clear up any confusion. Implants in SWTOR, much like in KOTOR, are not visible and can be changed out. They are a way to give more loot and stat options to characters without covering them in random art pieces. Except for the flavor name given to them, they function the same as rings or amulets might in a fantasy game.

They are not the same as the visible cybernetics you're occasionally seeing on player characters. Being a cyborg is different and a very specific choice that, as posters have pointed out, is not undertaken lightly nor commonly done in the SW universe.

Hope that helps!

Daniel

Which directly links visual cybernetics to being a cyborg. Still, an option for awesome robot arms and other cool shit woud be nice.

NPCs are not good examples for anything. They can do whatever the developers want them to do, even if it's breaking the game's rules or doing things that players cannot.

Hence why it was an 'also' not an 'this wins the argument, neener neener neener!'

From the closed beta:

Him: I am making a character ^^
Him: Sith Warrior has 4 race choices and you will probably like at least one
Me: oh?
Him: Human, Pureblood, Zabrak, and Cyborg
Him: I think I am gonna cyborg :3

For whatever reason, BioWare had "Cyborg" as a race, separate from the others, at least in the beta. I'm going to assume it's because a cyborg has different background elements that affect his story that a normal Human would not have.

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I'm so nice...

Epic music BTW! Honestly, my favorite song from the movies.

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Spoiler:
Just thought i'd do a quick write up of the White Nova flashpoints. This is an Imperial Space station with 2 level 30ish instances springing from it.

The Boarding Party - You are sent by Darth Malgus to take over a Republic ship on route to the Foundry space station so that you can sneak aboard the station during an Imperial attack.

The Foundry - A republic station using infinite empire technology ran by a 300 year old crazy jedi master (can you see where this is going yet?)

The quest to go there starts off with a Moff connecting you to Darth Malgus via holonet.

The first instance, The Boarding Party, take place aboard the republic ship captained by a smarmy female torgruta captain. The instance itself is ok, though kind of dull. Pretty much a tank and spank the entire time. You don't really even need a full time healer for it. I have actually 2-manned it while we used our companions. Approx time 1 to 1 1/2 hrs (i'm sure this could be done MUCH faster by an actual group rather than a pug, i'd est 35-45min if a group were on vent together and knew where to go)

After finishing the Boarding Party, you report back to Darth Malgus, who tells you to take over the foundry and eliminate the crazy jedi master aboard that is running it. This is kind of ominous compared to any quest i've gotten in the game so far up to level 37 so i thought this might be fun. So we ran this instance.

The Foundry starts out extremely similar to the boarding party, except you face pretty much all jedi masters, champions, defenders and droids... LOTS of droids. Not only that, there are Infinite Empire droids (have you gotten the connection here yet) so there are stations that will produce these droids on the spot so you have a lot more to contend with.

You go and go, finally facing off against a heck of a giant droid boss. Again, simple t&s fight. After defeating him, you get a message over the stations speakers with a VERY familiar voice. After a few insults including the word "meatbag" you keep going up against more and more droids... (if you haven't gotten the references yet, shame on you, go play KOTOR before reading anymore).

Make sure while you are oustide to LOOK UP! there is some amazing art at work here, as the station is constantly rotating, so you can see some of the imperial/republic space battle above and the astroid belt around you. It's really amazing imagery! I'll try to edit out some of the screen caps i have and post them here

At one point you go outside of the station (it's built into a large asteroid) and find it has shields that keep in an atmosphere for you. The outside of the station is swarming with large bugs. After completing the objective to blow up some stuff outside, you face a huge bug boss. This was somewhat difficult because we had a ton of bug adds on us when the boss comes out of the ground. The healer here was very taxed.

Finally you get to the third boss of the instance. After some verbal sparring, he decides to kill you personally. Yes folks, the second boss of the instance is indeed the one and only HK-47 who has designed most of the extermination droids you have been fighting up to this point. This was the first real boss fight i think i've had in the game so far. While it was a t&s fight for the most part, many more touches were added, including lots of droid adds, carbon freezing, and some random aggro dumps. This was really the first time I felt like i was in a boss fight and it felt GOOD!

After kililng HK-47 (yea, sad i know, but just wait) you move on to clicking some panels and facing more jedi but mainly droids the rest of the way. Finally you reach the bridge!

Here is an epic cutscene. You see the crazy 300 year old jedi master for the first time. My first thought was, why do i know that outfit??? My second thought was, why do those scars on his face look like the outline of a mask??? Well, you quickly find out the answer to both questions. the crazy old jedi master, is infact Darth Revan!

You find out (if your party use the appropriate dialogue options) that he was taken prisoner by the emporer 300 years ago while exploring (this was before the Republic knew about the current empire) and that the Emporer had been using Revan's force energy for his on purposes. Once getting out, Revan started the Foundry (which you guessed it, was one of the Star Forges) to help the republic out as he stayed a jedi after KOTOR. He also complains that you killed his HK, says he can rebuild him, but it's just not the same.

The fight itself... pretty tough. Revan will through a force storm on top of himself, does an instant stack of dots that has to be purged immediately or you will have a dead tank. He has lots of damaging saber attacks and a knockback. All in all, it's a very fun fight!

After you defeat him you leave and when back on the station talk to Darth Malgus again, and can complain to him (with the right choice) that he should have told you what you were up against.

Overall, this instance (The Foundry) had a very EPIC feel too it. When i first heard HK-47 talking, i was entranced from there out! The backstory from Revan was great and the imagery overall was amazing. I kind of felt cheated that this was a level 30 instance. Revan explained that he had been weakened from the Emperor for so long, but still felt that this should have been a level 50 instance or raid. It could still well be moved there , but i feel that they added it at the level 30ish level to throw fans of kotor a bone and get some NEEDED backstory stuff out of the way so they could concentrate on a new story line moving forward without the constant demand of wanting to know what happened to Revan.

Overall, I was impressed thoroughly with this instance.

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WTF is this BS!

Originally posted by ANONAMOUSE
Some more videos if anyone wants them.

Unlocking Vette Companion
Unlocking Khem Val Companion

Imperial Intros

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gFmejE6Ps Bounty Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73JslcHntE Imperial Agent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwBYL53C1qg Sith Inquisitor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQFjSxhTIkU Sith Warrior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHf-tyUhjjw Imperial Intro / Real Deceived Trailer

Republic Intros

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9zvzm85R24 Smuggler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGzYfy--4a8 Jedi Consular

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwdSkZamCc Jedi Knight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFHBlsc8msU Trooper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrloOXyHkM Republic Intro / Real Hope Trailer

Character Creations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11CeNN9k0s Cyborg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3paN4QNWqLM Zabrak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewPrAMV1EI Chiss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LXXorKIJ04 Pureblood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0knJooP4ZW4 Rattataki & Zabrak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLTtQGQ4mN4 Twilek

Ship Walkthroughs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmjDgZAUe6U Bounty Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZlwvNPl10U Jedi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi9dMg-jfiQ Smuggler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlV8hbKgNs Trooper

Originally posted by ANONYMOUS
WARNING: Possible Spoilers Below!!!

It seems like all of the Republic companions have one version, the blue silhouette, while the Sith Empire companions have two versions; blue silhouette and red silhouette or clear silhouette. (Except Ensign Temple, who just has a red silhouette version) This is based off the original posted link. All of the speculative companions in the list below have an extra asterisk in front of them.

Jedi Knight:
[list][*]T7-O1
[*]Kira Carsen
[*]*Doc - Could also be this guy or that guy.
[*]Sargent Rusk
[*]Lord Scourge[/list]

Jedi Consular:
[list][*]Qyzen Fess
[*]Zenith
[*]*Lt Iresso - Could also be this guy or that guy.
[*]*Theran Cedrex - A techie, could also be this guy or that guy.
[*]Nadia Grell[/list]

Smuggler:
[list][*]Bowdaar
[*]Corso Riggs
[*]*Akavi Spaar - A female Mandalorian.
[*]Guss Tuno
[*]*Risha - The woman crafting in the smuggler starship video.[/list]

Trooper:
[list][*]M1-4X
[*]Tanno Vik
[*]Elara Dorne
[*]Aric Jorgan
[*]Yuun[/list]

Sith Warrior:
[list][*]Vette
[*]Lieutenant Pierce
[*]Malavi Quinn - Confirmed by Ubbarax. Seen in the Sith starship video.
[*]Jaesa Willsaam - A jedi you can seduce to the darkside.
[*]Broonmark[/list]

Sith Inquisitor:
[list][*]Khem Val
[*]*Andronikus Revel - Muscular guy in the Sith starship video.
[*]Ashara Zavros
[*]*Talos Drellik - Just a guess.
[*]Xalek[/list]

Imperial Agent:
[list][*]Kaliyo Djannis
[*]Scorpio
[*]Doctor Lokin - Transforms into a Rakghoul to tank. Here is a source.
[*]*Vector Hyllis - A guess, after process of elimination.
[*]*Ensign Temple - The woman in the Imperial Agent starship video.[/list]

Bounty Hunter:
[list][*]Mako
[*]Blizz
[*]Skadge
[*]*Torian Caldera - A male Mandalorian
[*]Gault[/list]

Other:
[list][*]C2-N2 - Republic starship droid.
[*]2V-R8 - Sith Empire starship droid.
[*]Zabrak - Jewl'a Nightbringer look-a-like. Possible rare companion for the Republic (one version).
[*]Droid - HK-47 look-a-like. Possible rare companion for the Sith Empire (two versions).[/list] [/B]

Do we know what classes can perform what roles in the tank/heal/dps model? I've heard varying stories on this...that every class can do every role. Or that every class has elements of every role, but only 1-2 that they excel at.

Consular/Inquisitor: DPS, Healing, Tanking
Knight/Warrior: DPS, Tanking
Smuggler/Agent: Healing, DPS
Trooper/Bounty Hunter: Tanking, DPS

Pretty standard fare.

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Yeah, I'm definately going for Agent. Badass.

Originally posted by Nephthys
http://www.youtube.com/user/LostCause201#p/u/7/4M9g5sZdB04

Bunch of videos here. Get them before EA deletes them like they did with the guys previous account.

Got a mail through saying the release date here is the 22nd of December, so I guess that's that sorted! A couple of days earlier in North America I think.

Yeah, according to one of my friends spazzing out on facebook, it's December 20th here.

Exciting news, wouldn't you say Zach? Unfortunately I doubt I'll be able to get a computer upgrade in time for the release, so I won't be able to be among the first to play.

Maybe someone'll shell out £2-500 for a new laptop for a Christmas present.

Originally posted by Nephthys
[b]INFO DUMP!

New Character Creation screen.

Beta Impressions (3 reviews).

The first one seems to sorta match up with what Beefington was saying with the world design being fantastic and some other elements being mediocre, but ultimately its a good game. A positive and optimistic review.

The second one flat-out saying its as good as WoW from a WoW-fanboy is very promising, as I have heard that WoW is very well made and the guy says its his favourite game.

The third is cool. Not much else to say.

RANDOM SCREENSHOTS!

Racial Traits.

Interesting. I'd heard there weren't any. The two best races are obviously Twileks for their sweet dance moves bro! and Cyborg for robot eye-scanning abilities. Sooooooo cooooooooool!

Negative Review.

$10 bet its from Beefy.

Edit: The guys just a pissy PvP fanboy whos pissed the game isn't 'Xcore' enough for him. Meeeeeeeh! [/B]

I have heard that WoW is very well made

It's really not. And the impact it's had on the genre and industry is really not a good one.

Meh. Still, its impressive that a fanboy of WoW says its better than WoW is.

Anyway:

I can't believe I never noticed this before:

Skill Tree Calculator.

You can play around with all the classes skill trees and get a good look at character evolution. I'm going to **** around with the Agent tree!

The closer this gets, the more I'm probably not going to play.

I'll have friends trying to drag me into it, of course. But the decision to be pulled or not will be mine, I'm too much of a vet to get pressured into something I'm not excited about.

The only appeal would be getting to play my RP character from KMC, but she's Light Side and my friends are Darkies. Hrm.

You can be a Light Side Sith.

Hell, the romance for the Sith Warrior is ****ing adorable. <3

Originally posted by Digi
The closer this gets, the more I'm probably not going to play.

I'll have friends trying to drag me into it, of course. But the decision to be pulled or not will be mine, I'm too much of a vet to get pressured into something I'm not excited about.

The only appeal would be getting to play my RP character from KMC, but she's Light Side and my friends are Darkies. Hrm.

Haha, originally GK, Rex, and I were going to play and recreate our Darkies. Because that'd be awesome.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You can be a Light Side Sith.

Hell, the romance for the Sith Warrior is ****ing adorable. <3

Light Side Sith? Ummm...contradiction much?

Originally posted by Nephthys
You can be a Light Side Sith.

Hell, the romance for the Sith Warrior is ****ing adorable. <3


The simple fact that you can be a Light Side Sith tells me everything I need to know: This game is going to be an idiotic and unfulfilling, Star Wars-shitting-on train wreck.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
The simple fact that you can be a Light Side Sith tells me everything I need to know: This game is going to be an idiotic and unfulfilling, Star Wars-shitting-on train wreck.

They don't care; this game is going to make so much money regardless.