Delph's League of Champions Season One Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
There's no cap on insta-tech=it's not banned. There's a cap on how powerful your tech is.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Bricks were never top factor in the tourney, at least Collosus-style ones. I see no playsible ways to boost the speed BEYOND C- at least not at cost of handicapping your team on another fronts. Of course, there's a loophole or two, but those are risky.

Speed is always, always a trump card, and therefore should, IMO, be capped.

Originally posted by Boy Blue
That is the cap on insta-tech... that's exactly what I said. I know bricks were never a top factor, which is why they shouldn't be limited.

Speed is always, always a trump card, and therefore should, IMO, be capped.

I think there's a cap on offencive power of your tech, not on how fast can you get it. Or has it changed?

7. Tech: Creation of tech is allowed during prep. However, high end offensive weaponry or power neutralizers can not be brought from prep to the battlefield. No offensive implement with a greater payload than an independently powerered, non-enhanced Ironman armor is allowed. The technology can be used to amplify and enhance your characters during prep. Defensive technological implements (psi blockers, forcefield generators, armor) will be allowed, as well as communications devices and personal teleporters/means of transportation.

There's not a cap on how fast can you make\grab your tech. And in reality in that tier Max 10 movement speed isn't limiting anything, since that's how fast one can theoretically operate with said tech without annihilating it while we're not talking PIS\speedforce user.
Max 10 cap is well balanced, anything above that=showoff and without speedforce- implausible in prep.
Thus I'm voting on Max 10 cap for speed- it's not limiting anything, just removing the way of PISy speedblitz.
And telepathy isn't too neutered. Mind control\possession aren't the only options🙂

Originally posted by Boy Blue
I see having a speed cap as similar to having an insta-tech cap... and neutering telepathy.

It is neutering in a sense, but it's necessary in order to flesh other powers out.

Speed becomes a trump card, just as much as telepathy and uber tech... just take a look at Leo's team in the last tournament.

And the top speedsters in high meta are faster than the strong guys are strong... IMO.

Leo had the speed force. Entirely different beast.

I'll vote for the Mach 10 cap, however. I've always been a bit meh, but the recent reasoning has me slightly swayed. Mach 10 is still hella-fast, so speedsters are still viable picks for those who would be hurt by the ruling.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Leo had the speed force. Entirely different beast.

I'll vote for the Mach 10 cap, however. I've always been a bit meh, but the recent reasoning has me slightly swayed. Mach 10 is still hella-fast, so speedsters are still viable picks for those who would be hurt by the ruling.

And with no speedforce users in that tier speed above Max 10 (top speed at which it's still possible to operate complex machinery etc without speedforce\PIS so that it's not destroyed to kingdom come) is really boring bullrush speedblitzes.
Max 10 limit isn't limiting anything, actually. So I'm all for that limitation- leaves out lots of PIS bullshit arguments, since it's impossible to operate tech faster without any protective aura on it in a way that doesn't destroy that tech.
The only lightspeedsters currently having something like that in the tier are Aurora and Nothstar and there's no poof that their friction-protecting aura works the same way as speedforce one related to things.
In shorts- stuff that Leo did can't be repeated in that tier.

So would Northstar be banned or just neutered?

So how many people is that now for a speed cap? Is it ratifiable yet?

Me, Digi, Smurph...Scoobs.

Neutered to the limit that makes his anti-friction aura not that useful even IF it works like speedforce aura and protects not only him but whatever he touches from friction effect (from what I saw in RT it doesn't)- at Max 10 other speedsters in the tier can also perform quick tech assembling.
But anyways, sharing the speed is impossible in the tier and Max 10 limit only limits the silly bullrush speedblitz abuse.
In fact that's not that big of a neutering as people would think. Just that there's no mass hunt on a few documented lightspeedsters in high meta tier. There's much more people capable to move at Max 10 than lightspeedsters in that tier.

Also proposed- an amendment to the salary system. Points for the victory should be converted into salary points. 1 victory=5 points to the winner (cost of a low street character). Not a big thing in a whole tournament route but that would stimulate the winners🙂 Sounds cool IMO.
In the long run that may put reigning champion at advantage, though, as getting 6 victories in a tourney would be enough to purshase an extra high meta into your team.

lol.

B-Dub's gonna flip again...

As for the salary cap, it's set as is. I want everyone operating on an equal playing field in regards to what they can do with their teams. I don't want teams that lose their first couple matches by unanimous judge vote to be at an even greater disadvantage roster wise as well.

Mach 10-20 is my vote for speed cap.

So no one who can move faster than mach 10 is eligible for drafting then?

My understanding was that it was a cap on the max speed, and it was akin to neutering for anyone who can go above it.

Yeah, don't mess with the salary system Charlotte. That's a bit much, and also totally unnecessary.

And that was my understadning as well, neutering anyone who can go higher than Mach 10, but not banning them outright.

Yeah, high meta's that can exceed mach 10 would be allowed, but they couldn't surpass that speed. It's just like telepaths being allowed by mind control being banned.

I take it these power capped draft picks would still have to fall into the high meta category even BEFORE any neutering were to take place ... right?

I think we should at least consider mach15-20 as the cap. This is high meta after all.

what exactly is mach10? is there any easy to understand frame of reference? (ie speed of a bullet)

Originally posted by Scoobless
I take it these power capped draft picks would still have to fall into the high meta category even BEFORE any neutering were to take place ... right?

Exactly. You couldn't draft Captain Atom and then neauter him to fit caps. You must draft an actual High Meta or lower character.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what exactly is mach10? is there any easy to understand frame of reference? (ie speed of a bullet)

Mach 10 is about 3,400 meters/second, or 10 times the speed of sound. Whichever you prefer. For a point of reference, a bullet travels at about 3000-5000 feet per second (depending on caliber and other variables).

1 meter = 3.28 feet.

So Mach 10 is between two to three times the velocity of a high caliber round being fired.

Travelling at Mach ten you could travel 11,152 feet in 1 second, or fly from the sidewalk to the roof and back to sidewalk of the World Trade Center five times (full trip) in less than one second.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what exactly is mach10? is there any easy to understand frame of reference? (ie speed of a bullet)

Mach 1 varies a little depending on altitude, but basically it's around around 750 mph, so mach 10 is simply 10 times faster.