Sentry vs Silver Sufer

Started by Mr. Slippyfist15 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry breaching dooms magical forcefield like hes walking through butter.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/MightyAvengers011TheBastard-Meganpg.jpg
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Sentry recharging ironmans suit.
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Take a full on punch from the thing without flinching, remember thing punch has knock galactus on his a** before.
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mightyavengers10017xk0.jpg

To powerful for black magic.
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Random scans alert.

Security fields. Not entirely sure what they are to be honest.

Not sure what the Ironman thing means...

Thing's punch did the same thing to Pre-Hat Thanos. Thanos>>>Galactus.
Of course, that's silly, because that's completely ignoring context.
Galactus was hungry enough that he was near death, then Thor came and started to light him up. Then the heroes were fighting him. Then Strange used a magic trick to make him see shit. Then, Reed slingshotted Thing at Galactus's unsuspecting face, and pow.
They's the context.

Not too powerful for a simple spirit reversal spell though...

even tho there is no scans to prove sentrys power rivals surfers...marvel does stat it in his marvel bio

and with marvel stating that...we must have to see it happen on panel soon or later

Originally posted by bbrem123
even tho there is no scans to prove sentrys power rivals surfers...marvel does stat it in his marvel bio

and with marvel stating that...we must have to see it happen on panel soon or later

Where so does it say that?

And Marvel.com had Wolverine as a 7 in everything for a time being... I think Iron Fist still is. Marvel.com sucks.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Wait r u trying to suggest SS>WWH in terms of physical strength....Norin would be killed trying to h2h WWH whilst Sentry got the better hand of him that fight.
Sentry didnt get the better of WW Hulk. He was also fighting a very calm WW Hulk. If he fought the WW Hulk at the end of the story he would have gotten himself destroyed.

Ss 10/10

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Where so does it say that?

And Marvel.com had Wolverine as a 7 in everything for a time being... I think Iron Fist still is. Marvel.com sucks.

it says it at the bottom i think of his power destcription...and u cant go by the stat bars thos change all the time

and i was just throwing that out there...im not using it as support to prove sentry=SS

Originally posted by bbrem123
it says it at the bottom i think of his power destcription...and u cant go by the stat bars thos change all the time

and i was just throwing that out there...im not using it as support to prove sentry=SS

I'll check.
The same people who write the article, throw their opinion in on the power rating. So ya, if one thing's shit, then it's useless as proof (the entire site). It's as good as a bio on any other site, IMO.

EDIT: "The Sentry as the world's most powerful superhero, and with the serum causing a photosynthetic reaction to his body, completely altering his state of consciousness, it is nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer's and Phoenix's."

Heh. Mindless speculation ftw. Surfer=Phoenix=Sentry

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

EDIT: "The Sentry as the world's most powerful superhero, and with the serum causing a photosynthetic reaction to his body, completely altering his state of consciousness, it is nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer's and Phoenix's."

Heh. Mindless speculation ftw. Surfer=Phoenix=Sentry

Wow, that is pretty bad. Phoenix? 🙄

I dont think so.

Originally posted by tkitna
Wow, that is pretty bad. Phoenix? 🙄

I dont think so.

Indeed.

Everybody knows Sentry is > Phoenix.

Sentry could be on the level of some of Phoenix's average showings but nowhere near the high ones.

I remain unconvinced that the Silver Surfer can output enough power to harm The Sentry. I realize that he is more powerful than Terrax, but when he fought Terrax it was nothing like the pwning that Sentry put on the Tamer. He literally crushed his hand with a smile on his face.

Also noted was the comparissons of the Hulk vs Surfer and the attempt to say that since the Hulk did a number on Bob that the same would happen for the Surfer... this is a mistake guys. Norrin Radd has this nifty trick of siphoning the gamma radiaton (solar radiation) out of bruce Banner, this is not something that has eve been seen to affect Bob.

I am not saying who would win, i am just saying that i don't see how the Silver Surfer is going to win. Temporal manipulation is one of the Silver Surfers tricks, but from what I clearly remember... he had to be moving in a straight line to go back in time..... does this mean that he will be able to manhandle Bob, and drag him along for the ride? Let's think for a moment.... Bob is and should be considered high herald... and for many reasons.

Ultron was also brought up as being a problem for the Sentry... should I bring up Koon? yea this guy gave the Surfer fitz..... not to mention many others. All I am saying is that if they fought it wouldn't be some cake walk for either.... and I can see Bob winning at least half.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I remain unconvinced that the Silver Surfer can output enough power to harm The Sentry. I realize that he is more powerful than Terrax, but when he fought Terrax it was nothing like the pwning that Sentry put on the Tamer. He literally crushed his hand with a smile on his face.

Also noted was the comparissons of the Hulk vs Surfer and the attempt to say that since the Hulk did a number on Bob that the same would happen for the Surfer... this is a mistake guys. Norrin Radd has this nifty trick of siphoning the gamma radiaton (solar radiation) out of bruce Banner, this is not something that has eve been seen to affect Bob.

I am not saying who would win, i am just saying that i don't see how the Silver Surfer is going to win. Temporal manipulation is one of the Silver Surfers tricks, but from what I clearly remember... he had to be moving in a straight line to go back in time..... does this mean that he will be able to manhandle Bob, and drag him along for the ride? Let's think for a moment.... Bob is and should be considered high herald... and for many reasons.

Ultron was also brought up as being a problem for the Sentry... should I bring up Koon? yea this guy gave the Surfer fitz..... not to mention many others. All I am saying is that if they fought it wouldn't be some cake walk for either.... and I can see Bob winning at least half.

You believe that Surfer can't even harm Sentry? Heh... this kind of stuff isn't even worth disproving...
Yes, because Surfer has that killer instinct. 🙄
The mere fact that he disarmed him, and threw him on a lifeless world says the comparison is irrelevant.

How often has Surfer used this against Hulk? One time he stopped because he didn't want to kill him, and the other two times was from the same comic I believe. He's also KO'ed Hulk with conventional means... twice. Oh ya, he's also toyed with Hulk in every fight they've been in.
No, Bob just runs out of power in one fight (couple minutes max) with a person who has been fighting for many battles straight... is all. No siphon needed. Hell, Hulk was still healing up from getting his mid-section blown out by Strange.

Why not, he did it to someone powerful enough to be beating both him and Thor at the same time; Durok.

Khoon? The guy that beat Surfer/Nova, and Strange in rapid succession? The guy who Galactus had to take out? Hell, using that logic, you might as well compare how Sentry would do against Surfer by using T and A as yardsticks.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
EDIT: "The Sentry as the world's most powerful superhero, and with the serum causing a photosynthetic reaction to his body, completely altering his state of consciousness, it is nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer's and THOR's ."

Fixed. 🤘

I have seen absolutely no viable reasoning for saying that surfer cannot beat sentry.There have bin ridiculous speculations regarding how the PC may not work on sentry because of his fight against terrax. All these speculations can be classified as is ridiculous. How in the world can you say that just because sentry was able to take out terrax easily the PC cant affect him? or that none of surfers attacks can hurt Bob evn though Bob has not shown durability at that level?

Surfer could simply absorb or manipulate sentrys solar enrgy. He is on a far higher level than absorbing man so there will be no overloading of surfer.Or to make things easier surfer could trap sentry in ethel enrgy( the same material as his board) like he did spiderman, daredevil and carnage. Also if surfer could absorb an enrgy manipulator like legacy with the nega bands into his board the sentry would be no problem. Also as i have stated b4, blasting the sentry to pieces would be another valid option.

Now ive seen people saying that the sentry is far stronger than surfer and should be able to physically beat him. Now this MAY be the case that is sentry may b stronger than SS but this problem can be easily overcome. In the scan where SS drained hulk and turned him into banner, After draining hulk, SS says that he now has the savage strength of the hulk. So all SS would need to do would be to drain the sentrys enrgy and use it to amp his own strength. With this sentrys ONLY way( which can evn be argued) of winning is nullified.

SS wins this match 10/10

surfer in a stomp

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I have seen absolutely no viable reasoning for saying that surfer cannot beat sentry.There have bin ridiculous speculations regarding how the PC may not work on sentry because of his fight against terrax. All these speculations can be classified as is ridiculous. How in the world can you say that just because sentry was able to take out terrax easily the PC cant affect him? or that none of surfers attacks can hurt Bob evn though Bob has not shown durability at that level?

Surfer could simply absorb or manipulate sentrys solar enrgy. He is on a far higher level than absorbing man so there will be no overloading of surfer.Or to make things easier surfer could trap sentry in ethel enrgy( the same material as his board) like he did spiderman, daredevil and carnage. Also if surfer could absorb an enrgy manipulator like legacy with the nega bands into his board the sentry would be no problem. Also as i have stated b4, blasting the sentry to pieces would be another valid option.

Now ive seen people saying that the sentry is far stronger than surfer and should be able to physically beat him. Now this MAY be the case that is sentry may b stronger than SS but this problem can be easily overcome. In the scan where SS drained hulk and turned him into banner, After draining hulk, SS says that he now has the savage strength of the hulk. So all SS would need to do would be to drain the sentrys enrgy and use it to amp his own strength. With this sentrys ONLY way( which can evn be argued) of winning is nullified.

SS wins this match 10/10

IMHO, Absorbing Man is pretty much one of the top energy absorbers that Marvel has. He's never failed to adapt to anything. Holding the Sentry overload against Absorbing Man is a bit too simplistic. Especially when you consider that Surfer has overloaded and lost it from taking too much power from the Sun. Sentry's power is more complicated than simple solar energy. My two cents.

Sentry is a nut. If he wasn't, he'd probably be able to take surfer. Hell he'd probably be able to take anyone he wanted. Being a nut severly messes him up in my opinion.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Sentry is a nut. If he wasn't, he'd probably be able to take surfer. Hell he'd probably be able to take anyone he wanted. Being a nut severly messes him up in my opinion.

i completely agree with this

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
IMHO, Absorbing Man is pretty much one of the top energy absorbers that Marvel has. He's never failed to adapt to anything. Holding the Sentry overload against Absorbing Man is a bit too simplistic. Especially when you consider that Surfer has overloaded and lost it from taking too much power from the Sun. Sentry's power is more complicated than simple solar energy. My two cents.

Hmm im not sure about absorbing man being one of the top enrgy absorbers in Marvel. Also surfer has absorbed loads of enrgy from stars some evn larger than the sun without being overloaded. I dont think we should hold that showing against surfer. And evn if sentrys enrgy is more than just solar enrgy absrobing man showed it was at least drainable. Surfer does not evn need to drain all of it( Evn though he should be able to), All he needs to do is drain a sufficient amount of it to weaken sentry considerably and if he wishes to use it to amp himself.. This is also only one of surfers many ways of winning.

Still surfer wins 10/10

Originally posted by fangirl101
Sentry is a nut. If he wasn't, he'd probably be able to take surfer. Hell he'd probably be able to take anyone he wanted. Being a nut severly messes him up in my opinion.

Take surfer by doing what exactly? Surfer is more durable than hulk and sentry could not take him down. Thats besides surfers extremely strong forcefields which could basically nullify all sentrys attacks.