Okay, let's talk about the Joker is he Evil, Chaotic, Sinister...WHAT?

Let's start with your opinions of the Joker in the TDK.

How do you view him?

Is he a victim of an abusive father?

Is he a man who really hates the world?

Is he the Yang (or Ying of Batman) in this film?

Is he evil?

Why so philosophical? 😉

My take...The Joker is simply the extreme and a force that should never be try to touch or try to use. You bargain with the devil...if you catch my drift.

To be honest, I saw him as being perfectly sane in the movie. In a way, he was sort of helping the world. He was killing mobsters, and opening the world's eyes. He was very chaotic & sinister & I felt he was only doing what he wanted to do at times, but on a bigger scale had a big plan.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Let's start with your opinions of the Joker in the TDK.

How do you view him?

Is he a victim of an abusive father?

Is he a man who really hates the world?

Is he the Yang (or Ying of Batman) in this film?

Is he evil?

Why so philosophical? 😉

My take...The Joker is simply the extreme and a force that should never be try to touch or try to use. You bargain with the devil...if you catch my drift.

Evil

He seemed very sane in the sense he was always in control and didnt seem crazy. He did terrible terrible things simply because he enjoyed them. The best example of him being evil to me would be the "how many friends have I killed?" scene.

All of the above

i saw the joker as some unstable person that likes to shake things up just cuz he can. No limits and no boundaries, and seeing things turn to sh*t.

as crazy as he was, he was also very smart. what he does, he does best, and he doesnt do it for free. He likes Batman, they have things in common, but he likes chaos, he's good at causin a ruckus so why not cause of ruckus for batman and get paid by the mob. I think he is crazy, how could someone clearly think the way he does. and get joy out of seeing the world crumble around him

He doesnt hate the world, he just wants to see it burn, for no apparent reason, except the fact that it can burn.

what guy would

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even think about pouring gasoline onto a giant pile of money, and for that matter, have the ability to do it!!

I think he was a sadistic man, but, for some reason, I always thought of him as not as insane as everyone thought he was...

A lot of his kills made too much sense... They weren't just random kills that someone truly insane would do...

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Loeb, the Judge, the Russian gangster, Gamble, etc.

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True, but I said A LOT of his kills, not ALL of his kills 😉

I haven't read any of the comics. But to me, he is akin to Michael Myers in Halloween. He just 'is'. He just is evil. The personification of evil. He doesn't have to have a 'human' past of abuse or what have you that created him. He just 'is' and that IS cool for me.

Yea to me the interpretation of the Joker here is he is just someone evil who has no rules and will do whatever it takes to upset the establishment and amuse himself and unfortunately for the world he likes to amuse himself in sadistic ways. There's no treatment for the Joker, there's no justification good enough to explain what caused him to become this way because he's so extreme I don't think you could ever give him a back story that's good enough to explain his extremities and he's unstoppable because he has nothing to lose and is always one step ahead.

To me The Joker in The Dark Knight is somewhat a very sane man who sees the differences inh ow people view the world and he takes that and twists it into whatever he wants you to believe.

He was man & a very big plan. He was very sane but he seemed to almost want to die or see if anyone would kill him just for the fun of it.

I think he just acts like a kid and does whatever he wants to do, simply because he enjoys it😂

I don't think he was sane at all. I think he was in control and smart, but no one who is sane would treat people like pawns to the extent that he does. He's clearly a sociopath.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
All of the above

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I don't think he was sane at all. I think he was in control and smart, but no one who is sane would treat people like pawns to the extent that he does. He's clearly a sociopath.

Possibly...

The Joker had a plan from the very start, as evidenced by the initial bank job. The stuff he says to Harvey/Two-Face in the hospital was just a ruse to get Two-Face to come into being. Obviously, he is also a masochist as seen by his taunts to Batman in the finale to the chase scene ("Come on! Hit me!"😉, and his laughter as he plummets after Batman pushes him from the tower. However, the contradiction is that he is a man with a plan who is aiming for chaos. In simple terms, he's an extreme 'freedom fighter'.

Very good comments. I have a question to all of you who have posted. I would like a reply if you can.

Do you guys feel that The Joker is a very complicated character?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Very good comments. I have a question to all of you who have posted. I would like a reply if you can.

Do you guys feel that The Joker is a very complicated character?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Very good comments. I have a question to all of you who have posted. I would like a reply if you can.

Do you guys feel that The Joker is a very complicated character?

In my opinion , yes. He may not truly be psycho, but he knows exactly what he wants and knows how to achieve anything he desires.