Originally posted by HereticalDruid
That is correct Ush. Those will be my points.I also agree with most of Con's points, except for the child torture one. It is not that Azarl is a goody-good but such a threat may incite the Epireans to rebel anyways. Which we are avoiding.
As for the executions, I do not see the need to actually stop them, so long as they believe we are making some effort to keep them from happening. Con IS a fantastic Liar...
To me the killing or torturing of their loved ones is a major point. Of course we shouldn't outright say it, but it is important that they realize and think that we are willing to go to drastic measures if we are pushed. It's especially important in a warrior's society, where death often just means glory to them.
And I guess we could lie about the executions, I just doubt that it would work indefinitely. And Galder and Rianna are going to keep killing Epireans, so I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it.
Maybe we could think about some sort of Gladiator games, it might fare well in the Epirean society and could decrease the bloodlust of our more....babaric companions.
I'd like to get some comment from veteran jedi players about the current Jedi situation, especially about what they think of a Jedi asking to be escorted.
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Con is correct in saying that no matter how well you lie about something, if it can then be blatantly contradicted (e.g. if you say 'no more executions' and then there still are) then it won't 'count', game-wise, when I judge how well this goes.
I do want to point out that you can make any deal you like. You can say there will be no more random killings any mkre; you cna qualifyt that any way you like (no killings at all, or none wthout due process, or all killings must be approved by the tribal leader etc.). if you feel that is sensible then nevermind what the Psycho brigade thinks- they'll be stuck with it, unless they want to waste their own time putting down the rebellion they they themselves would then cause.
After all, you don't want to surrender TOTAL power to the, and a sensible deal will please the thinky types there.
I'm not saying that this is definitely the right thing to do, but I am saying that you shouldn't worry too much about what the others might not like about it- they shouldn't have sent you, else! Part of all this is about yuo guys setting your own mark upon the game world- and in a group with no clear leader, none of them can say "But that's not what we wanted!" and exdpect that to carry any weight.
Incidentally (and we shall say there is a break in the meeting at this point) the Gladitorial idea doesn't seem a bad one. And related to that, if your Brigand was playing there were some optiions about decision via ritual combat available right now, but I doubt you two are really the types for that.
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In a swift motion Wentar draws his saber, igniting it as he brings it up. "This is your last warning! Leave right now or face the consequences of your actions!"
(Want to try use Intimidate with Presence. Hoping for some to possibly flee, if not at least hesitate. If anything this is an excuse to test out the powers a little.)
Alright, of course we want a deal that does suit our group as well as possible (our psychos, too). So, what I'd try to go for is a deal in which all tribal leaders sent us their criminals or something (we might have to decide on a specific rate per months). The criminals would have three advantages I could think of a) they wouldn't be missed b) they could certainly compete in gladiatorial games should we deem that smart and c) they would probably make some of the best servants in our line of work. Not sure if safety would be an issue...could go either way.
As for a duel, we'd have to find a target that would be suitable, Ogros would of course come to mind first (if he exists or ever chooses to show up), but maybe some other opportunity might come up in game. And I agree that the Brigand would be the best to do it, but should it become necessary I am sure either of us could still get through.
Lots of it also depends on the leaders, if they want power we have a fine shot, if they want the best for their people, we'll have to be a more creative.
Gladiatorial idea sounds good, it sounds like something to entertain Rex and Rianna, and is better than completely random killings!
This all sounds good, Con and Azarl, and Gallador likes the fact that there are others like him in the group, as long as he doesn`t feel his position is threatened. Con and Gallador are roughly equivalent in social area, Ush?
And maybe it is good idea to speak to some leaders alone, particularly to those really ambitious or close to Ogros? Ogro`s lands for our allies could be part of a deal.
You haven't! Perhaps you've picked the side that has a more active life off of the computer? Notice that the Darkies are always on. 😛 And so far so good guys, keep it up. 🙂
As for a Jedi Knight requesting assistance in this situation... I don't think a Jedi needs it! You are more than capable of handling yourself in a potentially threatening time, and you would just be putting those security guys at risk or they would get in the way.
Hint was not necessarily for you, Denzral.
You dash as fast as you can out onto the surface; some guards are moving with you.
Outside, you try and peer through the dusty winds; you can see a fiery smoke trail in the distance, indeed coming from the new mining area.
People in the Conference Room are kinda on edge but calm enough, Jovan. Gern is talkign with his blue guards about the possibility of withdrawl.
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"You're not a REAL Jedi," says one of them, Sean.
Which is roughly what they say to you too, Wentar!
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