Originally posted by jadervason
Well, we know how Superman vs Thor ends.I think there's a strong likelihood Henshaw could one-hit Sentry, leaving him and Erads to double team Norrin. Or he could syphon the Power Cosmic from Norrin, leaving him and Erads to double team Sentry.
Siphon the power cosmic from SS... ❌
Originally posted by jadervasonOr maybe Surfer reprograms Eradicator and turns him loose on the other two? Or maybe Surfer simply blows Henshaw up to take Eradicator on for real, leaving Thor and Sentry to double-up Superman?
Well, we know how Superman vs Thor ends.I think there's a strong likelihood Henshaw could one-hit Sentry, leaving him and Erads to double team Norrin. Or he could syphon the Power Cosmic from Norrin, leaving him and Erads to double team Sentry.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or maybe Surfer reprograms Eradicator and turns him loose on the other two? Or maybe Surfer simply blows Henshaw up to take Eradicator on for real, leaving Thor and Sentry to double-up Superman?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or maybe Surfer reprograms Eradicator and turns him loose on the other two?
...how?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or maybe Surfer simply blows Henshaw up to take Eradicator on for real, leaving Thor and Sentry to double-up Superman?
Henshaw is arguably most durable guy out here, certainly most durable on his own team. Surfer would solo if he could do that.
Originally posted by fangirl101Surfer can generate enough energy to create a black hole. Blackholes are made by supernovas. But then again, he doesn't need to create that kind of energy. Just enough to blow up planets:
Now how in the hell does surfer Blow up Henshaw? Even a gaurdian who tried to incinerate Henshaw couldn't do it.
It is after all, clearly within Surfer's ability:
Originally posted by jadervasonHow does Surfer reprogram Eradicator? Maybe like this:
...how?Henshaw is arguably most durable guy out here, certainly most durable on his own team. Surfer would solo if he could do that.
It is something Silver Surfer has done before, after all:
Surfer is definitely more durable then Henshaw. Trust me.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer can generate enough energy to create a black hole. Blackholes are made by supernovas. But then again, he doesn't need to create that kind of energy. Just enough to blow up planets:It is after all, clearly within Surfer's ability:
How does Surfer reprogram Eradicator? Maybe like this:It is something Silver Surfer has done before, after all:
Surfer is definitely more durable then Henshaw. Trust me.
Originally posted by fangirl101Never seen a GL make a black hole. If you want to show me a scan, by all means, I'd like to see it. And Henshaw was destroyed by a planet-destroying blast in those scans. Did you ever read those issues of Green Lantern? Sure he survived in pieces, but he still got knocked out. That'd be a win per forum rules and Silver Surfer has that kind of power. You don't like the scans, it's not my fault. And Henshaw got blown to bits by the galaxy destroying blast in Sinestro Corps War, so I really don't know what you're talking about.
Um, A GL has enough power to create a black Hole. Guardian's are far Superior to Surfer. So what the hell was the point of showing us Surfer can create a black hole? A double black hole couldn't destroy superman, so what would surfer having enough energy do to henshaw who is far more durable than Superman? Not a damned thing. Stroking Surfer's silver sack isn't going to change the fact that he can NEVER beat Cyborg Superman. Oh and if oyu think Surfer is more durable than Henshaw, then how is it that henshaw stays nearly all the way in tact after a Galaxy destroying blast, and he didn't even WANT to live. Had he had his shields up, he wouldn't have been scratched.
I'm posting scans proving what type of destruction is necessary to beat Cyborg Superman. And you're coming awfully close to flaming me, when I was simply answering your question. You don't have to change your opinion, but don't get your feathers all ruffled if you don't care for the proof that I show you.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Never seen a GL make a black hole. If you want to show me a scan, by all means, I'd like to see it. And Henshaw was destroyed by a planet-destroying blast in those scans. Did you ever read those issues of Green Lantern? Sure he survived in pieces, but he still got knocked out. That'd be a win per forum rules and Silver Surfer has that kind of power. You don't like the scans, it's not my fault. And Henshaw got blown to bits by the galaxy destroying blast in Sinestro Corps War, so I really don't know what you're talking about.I'm posting scans proving what type of destruction is necessary to beat Cyborg Superman. And you're coming awfully close to flaming me, when I was simply answering your question. You don't have to change your opinion, but don't get your feathers all ruffled if you don't care for the proof that I show you.
Originally posted by fangirl101It doesn't matter whether he wanted to die or not. Just because a blast doesn't destroy a lil tidbit of Henshaw's body doesn't mean he can't be destroyed by something less. Wonderman and Vision were in the ship that held the Shiar Negabomb that detonated and destroyed 98% of the Kree throughout their own galaxy. They weren't even dead. Like I said, they survived because they were at the core of the explosion, a phenomenon that accords with real-life science.
First of all, Henshaw had NO shields on in SC as he wanted to die. And the blast Still didn't destroy his entire body. what part of that don't you get? A galaxy destroying blast would atomize pretty much anyone including Thanos. But henshaw was still partly in tact. Now if he wanted to live, dont' you think he would have had his shields up and survived? common sense would dictate that. Surfer doesn't have that kind of durability nor does he have the power to put a henshaw fighting back down. Oh and I haven't seen a GL make a black hole, but they have shielded themselves from super novas, and compacked stars down to atoms. The power is there to do the same.
Do you think Wonderman and Vision can't be destroyed by anything less than a galaxy destroying blast now? Obviously not. Superman has survived being sandwiched together between two exploding planets. Does that necessarily mean, he can't be knocked out by anything less? Of course not. Surfer wasn't even knocked out while fighting a Herald inside a black hole while diverting power to heal Alicia Masters, transmute armor for her and speed her away from the event horizon on his board. Does that mean Surfer can't be knocked out by less? No.
And it doesn't matter. The point is, a planet busting explosion also destroyed Henshaw's body sufficiently to the point where he was knocked out as I showed in the scans. I'm not going to argue Sinestro Corps War with you because it's semantics. Henshaw was destroyed by that galaxy-busting blast. He was also destroyed by a planet-busting blast in the scans I provided. The latter of which is clearly within Surfer's power. Nuff said.
EDIT: Oh and yeah, GL's don't have the power to make black holes. They may have shielded themselves from supernovas, but they have been killed by less. And pre-Crisis Hal attempted to compact a star down to atoms with Barry Allen's help and even then, Hal actually failed to complete the task. So no dice there. I know more about GL's then you think, both pre-Crisis and post-Crisis.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It doesn't matter whether he wanted to die or not. Just because a blast doesn't destroy a lil tidbit of Henshaw's body doesn't mean he can't be destroyed by something less. Wonderman and Vision were in the ship that held the Shiar Negabomb that detonated and destroyed 98% of the Kree throughout their own galaxy. They weren't even dead. Like I said, they survived because they were at the core of the explosion, a phenomenon that accords with real-life science.Do you think Wonderman and Vision can't be destroyed by anything less than a galaxy destroying blast now? Obviously not. Superman has survived being sandwiched together between two exploding planets. Does that necessarily mean, he can't be knocked out by anything less? Of course not. Surfer wasn't even knocked out while fighting a Herald inside a black hole while diverting power to heal Alicia Masters, transmute armor for her and speed her away from the event horizon on his board. Does that mean Surfer can't be knocked out by less? No.
And it doesn't matter. The point is, a planet busting explosion also destroyed Henshaw's body sufficiently to the point where he was knocked out as I showed in the scans. I'm not going to argue Sinestro Corps War with you because it's semantics. Henshaw was destroyed by that galaxy-busting blast. He was also destroyed by a planet-busting blast in the scans I provided. The latter of which is clearly within Surfer's power. Nuff said.
EDIT: Oh and yeah, GL's don't have the power to make black holes. They may have shielded themselves from supernovas, but they have been killed by less. And pre-Crisis Hal attempted to compact a star down to atoms with Barry Allen's help and even then, Hal actually failed to complete the task. So no dice there. I know more about GL's then you think, both pre-Crisis and post-Crisis.
You seem to be under the impression that Henshaw was knocked out by a planet destoying blast while he had his Ten rings shields on. You also seem to be under the impression that surfer hasn't been made a fool of by a lightning strike and an armbar. Oh and one other thing, you are trying to use real world physics but did you forget that the BLAST WAS CONTAINED. In the real world, blast expand outward. This blast in SC folded back in on itself becuz of the shield that it was inside. Thus henshaw experience the full brunt of the blast. Something niether vision nor wonder man did. And yet henshaw remained partly in tact. No one else would even be dust particles with a blast like that.
Originally posted by fangirl101I never insinuated as such. Thread starter said no rings for Henshaw. The sheer energy of the blast was not contained in one location completely, that power travelled through to the antimatter universe Which is obvious because the Green Lanterns talk about it and Henshaw's remains were actually shunted there along with the rest of the antimatter:
You seem to be under the impression that Henshaw was knocked out by a planet destoying blast while he had his Ten rings shields on. You also seem to be under the impression that surfer hasn't been made a fool of by a lightning strike and an armbar. Oh and one other thing, you are trying to use real world physics but did you forget that the BLAST WAS CONTAINED. In the real world, blast expand outward. This blast in SC folded back in on itself becuz of the shield that it was inside. Thus henshaw experience the full brunt of the blast. Something niether vision nor wonder man did. And yet henshaw remained partly in tact. No one else would even be dust particles with a blast like that.
But like I said, this argument is sheer semantics at this point. We both are agreeing that a galaxy busting blast would destroy Henshaw. What you can't avoid is, a planet busting blast would also destroy Henshaw. And that is well within Surfer's ability to throw at him. Current post-Annihilation Surfer stood in the middle of one and nonchalantly told his foe to GTFO. Just comparing those side-by-side examples tells me that Surfer is more durable. I don't even have to talk about black holes, etc.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I never insinuated as such. Thread starter said no rings for Henshaw. The sheer energy of the blast was not contained in one location completely, that power travelled through to the antimatter universe Which is obvious because the Green Lanterns talk about it and Henshaw's remains were actually shunted there along with the rest of the antimatter:But like I said, this argument is sheer semantics at this point. We both are agreeing that a galaxy busting blast would destroy Henshaw. What you can't avoid is, a planet busting blast would also destroy Henshaw. And that is well within Surfer's ability to throw at him. Current post-Annihilation Surfer stood in the middle of one and nonchalantly told his foe to GTFO. Just comparing those side-by-side examples tells me that Surfer is more durable. I don't even have to talk about black holes, etc.
Seeing as how Henshaw has Superman's durability, a planet busting shot isn't destroying henshaw. Or dont' you remember 3 kryptonians giving all they could against Henshaw and it still wasn't enough. And he wasn't even fighting back for real. Superman can bust planets. Oh and I didn't see in the OP no rings for henshaw. I saw in the OP no odin force for Thor.
Originally posted by jadervasonBased on what? Back up your claim. Who has Henshaw oneshotted who is on Sentry's level.
Well, we know how Superman vs Thor ends.I think there's a strong likelihood Henshaw could one-hit Sentry, leaving him and Erads to double team Norrin. Or he could syphon the Power Cosmic from Norrin, leaving him and Erads to double team Sentry.
Originally posted by Endrict NuulSuperman to me is by far the weak link here. Surfer imo rapes him and quickly.
Probably team 1, Sentry is weak link.
Originally posted by fangirl101Well... you can assume that Henshaw would not be destroyed by a planet busting shot, but then you'd have to ignore this:
Seeing as how Henshaw has Superman's durability, a planet busting shot isn't destroying henshaw. Or dont' you remember 3 kryptonians giving all they could against Henshaw and it still wasn't enough. And he wasn't even fighting back for real. Superman can bust planets. Oh and I didn't see in the OP no rings for henshaw. I saw in the OP no odin force for Thor.
So what do you want from me? I didn't write the comic. But continuing to ignore the above scans doesn't help your case any and doesn't convince me of your arguments at all.
Originally posted by Starscream MThere was discussion on the first page about it. It's alright that you missed it.
no rings for Henshaw
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Well... you can assume that Henshaw would not be destroyed by a planet busting shot, but then you'd have to ignore this:So what do you want from me? I didn't write the comic. But continuing to ignore the above scans doesn't help your case any and doesn't convince me of your arguments at all.
There was discussion on the first page about it. It's alright that you missed it.
Was this before henshaw's upgrade? You do know that he upgrades right? didn't he evolve himself into what we saw in the corps war.
