Originally posted by quanchi112
Sc is irrelevant. He had the rings there so the whole story is stricken from this conversation imo.
^ Henshaw was using his rings during Sinestro Corps War. He beat the crap out of Superman in their first round of combat. Of course, Superman does better after getting his second wind. Henshaw was also more intact in the former battle than in the latter battle. Makes sense since the former blast was not as powerful as the latter blast and the latter blast shunted him into the anti-matter universe. But if ignoring that and making your presumption helps you reconcile the two, that's fine for your opinion. But presumptions don't speak as loudly as on-panel evidence.
I answered your question and you didn't really care for my answer. That's fine. But I'm not going to prove a negative and prove that Henshaw never upgraded himself. Fact is, there's no evidence there to suggest Henshaw upgraded himself. It's up to you to prove he did. Either way, while I won't take the burden of proving a negative, I will pose this question to you: "If Henshaw wanted to die, why would he upgrade himself to make it harder to kill him?" Think about it.
Originally posted by fangirl101He used the rings to beat down Superman. You could see his fists emitting energy and forming constructs due to the rings.
Not really. I dont remember him using the rings when fighting Superman and co, or when the galaxy explosion happened. And since his body was more in tact than in the scans, it's obvious that he has upgraded himself.
The manhunters revived him imo. In a forum fight you dont have to completely kill your opponent.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Henshaw was using his rings during Sinestro Corps War. He beat the crap out of Superman in their first round of combat. Of course, Superman does better after getting his second wind. Henshaw was also more intact in the former battle than in the latter battle. Makes sense since the former blast was not as powerful as the latter blast and the latter blast shunted him into the anti-matter universe. But if ignoring that and making your presumption helps you reconcile the two, that's fine for your opinion. But presumptions don't speak as loudly as on-panel evidence.I answered your question and you didn't really care for my answer. That's fine. But I'm not going to prove a negative and prove that Henshaw never upgraded himself. Fact is, there's no evidence there to suggest Henshaw upgraded himself. It's up to you to prove he did. Either way, while I won't take the burden of proving a negative, I will pose this question to you: "If Henshaw wanted to die, why would he upgrade himself to make it harder to kill him?" Think about it.
Of course henshaw would upgrade himself. He had a task to do for the Antimonitor. And once the AM was victorious, He would grant henshaw death. So it would behoove henshaw to make sure that he was at tip shop shape so that the AM would grant his request. Game set and match. Think about it.
Outrageous BS. The planet busting was from a Highmaster robot. Which amps GL power 100x times. It was 2 GLs powering it. Surfer is nowhere near that strong.
Erads was UPGRADED from what Majestic did. And Surfer isn't as smart as Majestros.
Last example is an outright lie. Superman Prime was the one who BFRed AM. The GL is refering to AM's anti-matter wave being stopped, not the blast going to the anti-matter universe.
Henshaw was not shunted to the Anti-matter verse, read the stupid comic. 😒
Henshaw has easily oneshotted Superman and Eradicator on so many occasions...This doesn't mean he would easily oneshot Sentry but it can't be ignored.
Henshaw's whole upper body was in-tact after that galaxy buster. It was SMP who really dealt the final blow, because Henshaw was stuck to the AM when SMP beasted him.
As Jordan states, the metal melted off of his organics. Since when are his metal portions weaker than his Superman portions? Superman's own words state that they're "invulnerable" but his biological side can still be harmed. Henshaw was clearly not at top form on Biot. He got ambushed.
All things aside, the Surfer can be low-shown, too. The greatest technopath in DC comics was about to absorb some of the SOURCE itself, I think he could manage the power cosmic.
Originally posted by fangirl101So he upgrades himself so it would be more difficult for the Am to kill him? I dont subscribe to that at all.
You both look like fools where I'm concerned. Or didn't you know that in order to get his wish granted by the Am, part of the deal was to make sure that the AM succeeded. Of course he upgraded himself.
Originally posted by jadervasonHe didnt oneshot Supes even with the rings. So how could he oneshot sentry without them?
Henshaw has easily oneshotted Superman and Eradicator on so many occasions...This doesn't mean he would easily oneshot Sentry but it can't be ignored.Henshaw's whole upper body was in-tact after that galaxy buster. It was SMP who really dealt the final blow, because Henshaw was stuck to the AM when SMP beasted him.
As Jordan states, the metal melted off of his organics. Since when are his metal portions weaker than his Superman portions? Superman's own words state that they're "invulnerable" but his biological side can still be harmed. Henshaw was clearly not at top form on Biot. He got ambushed.
All things aside, the Surfer can be low-shown, too. The greatest technopath in DC comics was about to absorb some of the SOURCE itself, I think he could manage the power cosmic.
Originally posted by jadervason
Henshaw's whole upper body was in-tact after that galaxy buster. It was SMP who really dealt the final blow, because Henshaw was stuck to the AM when SMP beasted him.
When did it show SMP doing any damage to Henshaw, I don't remember that?
SMP punched through AM chest if I recall correctly, how would that have damaged Henshaw?
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYeah, and by amping the GL's power 100X, they blew up the planet. If you read the comic, Henshaw talks about how his highmaster robots have enough power to destroy planets. Hal repeats that very same thought, and then they go ahead and blow up a planet and Henshaw is destroyed. Surfer has the power to destroy a planet. Hell, by making a black hole with his own energy discharge, he's easily displayed the ability to destroy stars. Not my fault you don't like the fact that Henshaw was destroyed by a planet-busting blast. Least I didn't mention that the planet wasn't even totally destroyed. Oops, too late:
Outrageous BS. The planet busting was from a Highmaster robot. Which amps GL power 100x times. It was 2 GLs powering it. Surfer is nowhere near that strong.Erads was UPGRADED from what Majestic did. And Surfer isn't as smart as Majestros.
Last example is an outright lie. Superman Prime was the one who BFRed AM. The GL is refering to AM's anti-matter wave being stopped, not the blast going to the anti-matter universe.
Henshaw was not shunted to the Anti-matter verse, read the stupid comic. 😒
Majestros is way up there, no doubt. But he had no special knowledge of Eradicator's computer systems. And Silver Surfer has reprogrammed alien technology himself. The tactic stands.
Trust me. Henshaw, along with all the other anti-matter got shunted into the anti-matter universe. I have the comic in my hands and posted scans, I think you need to reread the comic:
If you sincerely believe that the GL's completely dissipated the blast and kept everything within their shield dome, then Henshaw's remains should have been littered on the ground... right? Well... answer this simple question, "How exactly did Henshaw's remains end drifting around in outer space?" Chew on it for a lil while, the answer will come to you.
You know, before reading more of your discussions, I thought you only had a problem with the Spectre and tried to demean him at any occasion you get. Only now I realize that you actually just flat-out mis-interpret information in order to make it seem as your opinion on a certain events/characters is correct, and thus make characters you don't like look weaker than they actually are.
I'll handle the Sinestro Corps War point first. The galaxy-destroying blast was contained within the perimeter the Green Lanterns set. It's obvious that what that Green Lantern was talking about in the scan you posted was the stopping of the anti-matter wall, which Anti-Monitor used to start feeding on the positive-matter.
How did Henshaw get away from Earth, and how his remains weren't on Earth after the battle was done ? It was actually shown, that whenSuperboy Prime bfr-ed Anti-Monitor, Henshaw's remains were right besides Anti-Monitor's.
I hope you can admit when you are wrong, and are not the type to grasp at straws and such. 🙂
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Now, unto the 'exploding planet' point. It was made pretty clear that the entire planet was rebuilt using the Green Lanterns and power rings and that they were siphoning power from OA. As you can see in the scan, that power was collected in a power battery sort to speak, from which the lanterns Hal fought as Parallax were tied to. (The Manhunters even asked Henshaw if they should take Hal aswell so that he too will provide acces to the Central Power Battery too)
Now, what you missed in the scan is that controlling the Highmaster, Hal and Arisia shot the the collecting power-battery that I mentioned earlier and not the planet, battery which flat-out exploded with Henshaw a few feet away from it and considering how much power that battery had, it is much more impressive than an exploding planet, which occured after this event.
Again, I hope you can admit when you are wrong 🙂
Originally posted by PhilosophíaOh ho. Obvious, eh? Why don't you tell me where exactly Anti-Monitor's antimatter wall actually goes? What's obvious to me is that AFTER the explosion, Green Man starts talking about how the antimatter has been shunted through to the underverse, which, if you are a knowledgable DC reader, is the antimatter universe. If the anti-matter is shunted there at the same time the galaxy busting blast ignites, doesn't that happen to leave a convenient window for all that energy to seep into? Considering energy can not be destroyed and has to either travel or convert AND the fact that a breach into the antimatter universe is present, I think it's highly obvious that you utterly flat-out misinterpreted the comic. Read it again, please:
You know, before reading more of your discussions, I thought you only had a problem with the Spectre and tried to demean him at any occasion you get. Only now I realize that you actually just flat-out mis-interpret information in order to make it seem as your opinion on a certain events/characters is correct, and thus make characters you don't like look weaker than they actually are.I'll handle the Sinestro Corps War point first. The galaxy-destroying blast was contained within the perimeter the Green Lanterns set. It's obvious that what that Green Lantern was talking about in the scan you posted was the stopping of the anti-matter wall, which Anti-Monitor used to start feeding on the positive-matter.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaDo me a huuuge favor. Save that image to your desktop and edit it using Windows Paint. Go ahead and circle Henshaw's remains on that page. If you can identify Henshaw's remains clearly, I will absolutely concede that Superman Prime threw him along with the Anti-Monitor. Problem is, I don't think you can, because I'm pretty damn sure you're mistaking Anti-Monitor's remains for Henshaw. So do me another huuuuuuge favor and read the last two pages of Sinestro Corps War and look at Anti-Monitor's body before he is captured into the Black Lantern Battery. K?
How did Henshaw get away from Earth, and how his remains weren't on Earth after the battle was done ? It was actually shown, that whenSuperboy Prime bfr-ed Anti-Monitor, Henshaw's remains were right besides Anti-Monitor's.I hope you can admit when you are wrong, and are not the type to grasp at straws and such. 🙂
Originally posted by PhilosophíaSo let me get this straight. You're equating the Battery that Henshaw powered with several individual Green Lanterns with the Central Power Battery on Oa? Or the Sinestro Corps Battery on Warworld? ... pardon me while I stifle my laughing. Even if you happen to believe that several Lanterns could power a makeshift battery to the point where you could compare it with other Batteries, the bottom-line is, the ensuing explosion didn't even destroy the planet completely. At best, it blew a quarter of the planet away and Henshaw was defeated:
---------Now, unto the 'exploding planet' point. It was made pretty clear that the entire planet was rebuilt using the Green Lanterns and power rings and that they were siphoning power from OA. As you can see in the scan, that power was collected in a power battery sort to speak, from which the lanterns Hal fought as Parallax were tied to. (The Manhunters even asked Henshaw if they should take Hal aswell so that he too will provide acces to the Central Power Battery too)
Now, what you missed in the scan is that controlling the Highmaster, Hal and Arisia shot the the collecting power-battery that I mentioned earlier and not the planet, battery which flat-out exploded with Henshaw a few feet away from it and considering how much power that battery had, it is much more impressive than an exploding planet, which occured [b]after
this event.Again, I hope you can admit when you are wrong 🙂 [/B]
I don't care what you would like to presume... Henshaw dotes upon his highmasters' ability to destroy planets and Hal repeats that very same idea when he comandeers one to blow up the planet they are on, which defeats Henshaw. Thank you, try again. I'm not going to ask you to admit when you are utterly wrong, but do me a favor and read over what I just pointed out before replying again.
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The panel where Prime says "you're weak" There is a skeletal figure. You're using egregious leaps of logic and outright ignoring text and on-panel proof.
And even sub-standard battery is still more power than anyone here can muster. 100x a herald's level of power? Or the combined power siphoned from over 20 high end GLs over god knows how long?
Your bias is reaching Quanchi levels. 😄
