Black Panther vs Wolverine

Started by jalek moye18 pages
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Not really. They just average out all of the showings. Not just some of them.

no there wrong alot, we base things off of what they consistently do over there career. They alot of times says things are contridict most showings

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually the manufacturer tests all of their cars limits etc.

Thats not the point this is just a hypothetical situation were the information presented is incorrect to reality.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Not really. They just average out all of the showings. Not just some of them.

Are you sure about that? Ok so how did they average out that Namors strangth level was class40, because something tells me theres no way of knowing that but we do know its above 40 because there are lots of feats above that.

I'm guessing some of you guys should email Marvel and tell them to do away with the handbooks. I for one however love them.

Originally posted by Trackz
they are official, but for things like this...like what would be the point when you could just open up a handbook, I think the handbooks show who should win but feats show who would win

^^^

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm guessing some of you guys should email Marvel and tell them to do away with the handbooks. I for one however love them.

That still doesnt change the fact that handbook are consistently incorrect. 🙁

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That still doesnt change the fact that handbook are consistently incorrect. 🙁
That's why I said email Marvel and tell them how you feel.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's why I said email Marvel and tell them how you feel.

No on my main list of things to do. I might email Garth Einnis and tell him I dont want to see DD kicks Franks arse ever again or ask Matt Fraction to write a story were Frank takes on DD and doesnt look like a chump.

Originally posted by Trackz
^^^

They are officialy incorrect...alot. *shrug*

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No on my main list of things to do. I might email Garth Einnis and tell him I dont want to see DD kicks Franks arse ever again or ask Matt Fraction to write a story were Frank takes on DD and doesnt look like a chump.

They are officialy incorrect...alot. *shrug*

because of the writers, thats why wolverine can survive a nuke in some instances and fall to a bullet in others.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I might email Garth Einnis and tell him I dont want to see DD kicks Franks arse ever again or ask Matt Fraction to write a story were Frank takes on DD and doesnt look like a chump.

Let's go with this. Now if you look at handbooks you can tell Frank and DD are pretty equal. However some of their on panel fights put DD as the better man.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let's go with this. Now if you look at handbooks you can tell Frank and DD are pretty equal. However some of their on panel fights put DD as the better man.

Ok......

You guys want to hear a good one. Last year I emailed somebody at [email protected] and asked who is stronger Cap or Blade. They emailed me back saying Blade is stronger due to his genunine low-level superhuman strength. 😬

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok......
Do we use handbooks or panels in this case?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You guys want to hear a good one. Last year I emailed somebody at [email protected] and asked who is stronger Cap or Blade. They emailed me back saying Blade is stronger due to his genunine low-level superhuman strength. 😬

To be fair I dont think thats unreasonable, but the problem is Cap has low level superhuman strength as well. *shrug*

Yeah to tell you the truth eventhough I say I dont take bios serioulsy if a street level character was refered as superhuman in a bio and somebody else was peak-human I could consider the superhuman as being slightly stronger.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do we use handbooks or panels in this case?

On panel evidence of course because handbooks are based on panel evidence but handbooks tend to be wrong.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

On panel evidence of course because handbooks are based on panel evidence but handbooks tend to be wrong.

Then this evidence suggests that DD is superior to Frank, even though I don't agree with that.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Then this evidence suggests that DD is superior to Frank, even though I don't agree with that.

Well yeah we go by the evidence. My problem is that previoulsy he was able to take on DD, but all of a sudden he started to get his arse kicked. Its probably because he started losing popularity. Punisher fans just dont give a shit.

Just to add eventhough I think bios can be incorrect alot. I do think when a character is stated to be superhuman that we can give the bio the benefit of the doubt. Obvoulsy bio writers are not insane and there must be some credible reason why the say a characters is superhuman but what comes into question is the level of their superhuman stats.

The problem with peak-human and superhuman is that since peak-human is so close to superhuman the lines become blured and you can't tell the difference between superhuman and peak-human. Also the fact that Bp is stated as being superhuman and in another instance almost superhuman implies that maybe peak-human can be considered to be the same as superhuman (low superhuman).

However as stated before if a bio does states a street level character as being superhuman its not unreasonable to think that their stats are greater than a peak-human but only slightly if their feats are similar.

Originally posted by Trackz
pushes a large boulder
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/8885/ymir0.jpg

I not even sure what so impressive about this feat? It even says it delicately balanced…….making it far from impressive……..so as I said earlier you should have picked better feats.

“Wolverine throws a rather large sized shark out of the water at a ridiclous speed; More impressive given the fact that he did this against the tension of the water and he didn't have his feet for leverage since they were buisy helping him stay afloat:
1. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6867/sharktossinvc5.jpg

Wolverine murauding around as Death displays tremendous strength tossing a man against the force of Storms hurricane winds:
1. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9215/hurricwindsir5.jpg

Wolverine punches a man underwater; The force of which is so hard it sends the man into the concrete making a crater from the momentum/force:
1. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2426/underwatercementcraterar4.jpg

Any of theses would take greater strength.

Originally posted by Trackz
picks up a flaming tree and shoves it down Ymir's throat
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/5203/ymir.jpg

And this would in my opinion take more strength

“Wolverine lifts an enourmous tree trunk to bat away at a supernatural foe because touching them freezes him to the soul:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3121/bd9a6048ps6.jpg

He swing it around like a bat.

none of those are greater, black panther stopped a rampaging rhino as well as a gorilla (most of these were while exhausted too).

as for the second feat, theyre pretty much the same

I'm confused by this thread, BP has superior stats to logan(even if it's slight), awesome MA ability and a suit that is capable of breaking through indestructable material....how does Logan win lol.

Originally posted by Trackz
none of those are greater, black panther stopped a rampaging rhino as well as a gorilla (most of these were while exhausted too).

as for the second feat, theyre pretty much the same


yes they are. Kncokign a delicate balanced rock is nothign comapred th through a shark in a boat with just your arm strength.

not really it ahrder to swing treet around like a base ball bat then it is to simply lift

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I'm confused by this thread, BP has superior stats to logan(even if it's slight), awesome MA ability and a suit that is capable of breaking through indestructable material....how does Logan win lol.

becuases his stats arnt superior you made that up.

Becauses he not as skilled

actauctully it not.