Ryu vs Cloud Strife

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Terryc250 Senior Member
Originally posted by Jayct
Cloud was standing on the one half of the sword, the other half was in the building. Cloud's gravity was pulling down on the one half of the sword, thus the part that was in the building was pushing up - not down...

If the blade was "sharp" the sharp end would still cut down through the building, stab a knife into butter, then push down on the end, the "sharp" part still will cut through and would be impossible to stand on, thats if the blade was some uber sharp sword.

Peach mordrem
Originally posted by Classic NES
"buTZ qa cOlioudz cAn jhumpo has high as Tha Hulkc!!!111"

Do not make spam posts like that.

And Vampire Savior, unless it specifically says in the first post of the thread (which it doesn't here), non-canon sources are not allowed. This means nothing outside of the actual games.

Burning thought Restricted

Originally posted by Terryc250

Yeah because cutting huge chunks of buildings requires no strength dur

no it doesnt, if a man takes a sharp sword to a piece of wood and slices through it in an instant, yet a man with a blunt edge but slightly stronger due to body building cannot break through the block of wood, then obviously the sword makes a diffrence, dont you see the logic behind a sharp edge being able to slice through objects with ease without needing strength?

I guess Darth vader is extremely strong since he can slice through objects in an instant with his light saber, his strength pushes it through, not the swords heat...

Kirikaze Fuuma Kaze no Soldier

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
No

Regular Ryu is FAR stronger than that now...

Lol,no...

No...fell to the ground after SLASHED by cloud.

Cuz he's hard... 😂

yes.

skill = SF1 evil ryu. power != SF1 evil ryu. why don't ryu just incinerate hugo with his shinkuu hadouken? it will be over in a matter of second.

repeat : maybe yes maybe no.

bahamut doesn't have any cutting damage.

don't try to throw a dirt. your last statement is full of bullshit.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Peach
Do not make spam posts like that.

And Vampire Savior, unless it specifically says in the first post of the thread (which it doesn't here), non-canon sources are not allowed. This means nothing outside of the actual games.

I am sorry miss, but your second statement is simply not true.

If another piece of fiction like and anime or comic is considered to show canon abilities by the creators, then it can be used.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Sado22
a small island. much smaller than the ayres rock really.

bullshit. and i don't care what something appears to weigh. give me the real weight or just save it.

throughout their fightin in FFAC cloud hung in there with seph from beginning to end. they are definitely equal in skill.

😆 😂 🤣

the second time when he goes to rescue denzel from teh silver haired queers.

~Sado

1. Prove it. And said feat is still much more than anything Cloud or even Sephiroth for that matter has ever done. And it had mountains. It was an island with mountains. It was bigger than Ayer's Rock.

2. Or I can show a picture of a boulder similar in size to both of Ryu's boulders(a little smaller in fact) that is 10 tons. But that's not proof right?

Going by that, PROVE Bahamut weighs anything at all.

And yes, Bahamut was hollow on the inside.

3. Bullshit, Sephiroth toyed with Cloud throughout the whole fight and was beating his ass.

4. Since Ryu has in fact stalemated Gouki. 🙂

Just using facts man. 😄

5. Vid?

Terryc250 Senior Member

Originally posted by Burning thought
no it doesnt, if a man takes a sharp sword to a piece of wood and slices through it in an instant, yet a man with a blunt edge but slightly stronger due to body building cannot break through the block of wood, then obviously the sword makes a diffrence, dont you see the logic behind a sharp edge being able to slice through objects with ease without needing strength?

I guess Darth vader is extremely strong since he can slice through objects in an instant with his light saber, his strength pushes it through, not the swords heat...


Cutting through wood with a sword DOES require strength, you're making it seem as though Clouds sword is some magically sharp sword that cuts through anything, its not, so don't even compare it to a lightsabre

If it requires no strength, then you go grab a sword, and try cutting through concrete, see how easy it is.

If another piece of fiction like and anime or comic is considered to show canon abilities by the creators, then it can be used.

The ability is canon, however hadoukens blowing up buildings isn't, hadoukens in canon have never been that strong, thats why you cannot post it claiming that hadoukens are that strong when the anime isn't canon in the first place, its the exact same reason why you cannot post that non-canon comic of Gouki destroying a meteor twice the size of earth.

Peach mordrem

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I am sorry miss, but your second statement is simply not true.

If another piece of fiction like and anime or comic is considered to show canon abilities by the creators, then it can be used.

Going by the rules of this forum, what I said is correct. This is a GAMES Vs forum. Thus only games themselves are considered canon here.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Peach
Going by the rules of this forum, what I said is correct. This is a GAMES Vs forum. Thus only games themselves are considered canon here.
Then that totally ignores the logic within the fictions themselves.

UDON comics have been stated to show the canonical abilities of Darkstalkers and Streetfighter characters, so now those can't be used?

Oh and you ruled that the Halo novels could be used in debates. Which are not the games.

Peach mordrem

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Then that totally ignores the logic within the fictions themselves.

UDON comics have been stated to show the canonical abilities of Darkstalkers and Streetfighter characters, so now those can't be used?

Oh and you ruled that the Halo novels could be used in debates. Which are not the games.

I ruled that things like the novels, comics, etc. can be used ONLY if specified by the thread starter.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Peach
I ruled that things like the novels, comics, etc. can be used ONLY if specified by the thread starter.
K.

You're pretty when using your mod authority. 131

Peach mordrem

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
K.

You're pretty when using your mod authority. 131

I'm also immune to flattery.

Back to the thread topic.

Dark-Jaxx Senior Member

Originally posted by Peach
I'm also immune to flattery.

Back to the thread topic.

Damn it. mmm

Yeah, this fight goes either way IMO.

Terryc250 Senior Member

Still waiting to be shown something canon of Ryu doing something comparable to Cloud 😬

Jayct Member
Originally posted by Peach
Going by the rules of this forum, what I said is correct. This is a GAMES Vs forum. Thus only games themselves are considered canon here.

Well, in that case, Ryu destroys Cloud. In the games Cloud does nothing that is too impressive, is a mindless Zombie half of the time, needs the help of teammates to take down most things aaaand....he wears a dress....:-o

Oh, and pushing a knive down through butter is exactly the same as pushing a knive down through concrete Terryc250 ?... P=mv mean anything to you ? Newtons Laws ? DENSITY of the concrete stopping the sword lodged in the building from cutting it as there is no momentum....?

Anyway...all that doesn't count now....as it didn't happen in the game....

Terryc250 Senior Member

Originally posted by Jayct
Oh, and pushing a knive down through butter is exactly the same as pushing a knive down through concrete Terryc250 ?... P=mv mean anything to you ? Newtons Laws ? DENSITY of the concrete stopping the sword lodged in the building from cutting it as there is no momentum....?

Anyway...all that doesn't count now....as it didn't happen in the game.... [/B]


Are you even reading what we're talking about? I said if the sword was some magically insane sharp sword like everyone is trying to make it out to be. However; the fact that it doesn't cut through when Cloud puts all his weight on the tip of the sword, it doesn't budge, means the "sharpness" of the sword isn't much difference from any other sword.

Advent Children is the sequal to FF7, its canon to the storyline, unlike those anime clips you posted.

Kirikaze Fuuma Kaze no Soldier
Originally posted by Peach
non-canon sources are not allowed. This means nothing outside of the actual games.

since FF7 AC is canon so I guess it's ok.

Burning thought Restricted

Originally posted by Terryc250
Cutting through wood with a sword DOES require strength, you're making it seem as though Clouds sword is some magically sharp sword that cuts through anything, its not, so don't even compare it to a lightsabre

If it requires no strength, then you go grab a sword, and try cutting through concrete, see how easy it is.

How do you know Clouds sword is not sharp? first its several blades rolled into one, I find it highly unlikely his sword is blunt so dont even try it, not to mention if you claim its blunt then not only do you sound more foolish but youve got no proof its blunt either, and finally he has high momentum when he usually slices things not to mention the sword itself is a heavy large blades weapon, it could easily without Cloud having more sterngth than it takes to wield the weapon itself cut through concrete, especially by the looks of the already damaged and seemingly rusting workmanship on the buildings he is slicing.

Ill cut through wood with a human made sword, sure, ive done it several times before, I dont need super human strength to cut through wood if the blade is extremely sharp, youve obviously never cut through wood with a sharp blade.

Terryc250 Senior Member

Originally posted by Burning thought
How do you know Clouds sword is not sharp? first its several blades rolled into one, I find it highly unlikely his sword is blunt so dont even try it, not to mention if you claim its blunt then not only do you sound more foolish but youve got no proof its blunt either, and finally he has high momentum when he usually slices things not to mention the sword itself is a heavy large blades weapon, it could easily without Cloud having more sterngth than it takes to wield the weapon itself cut through concrete, especially by the looks of the already damaged and seemingly rusting workmanship on the buildings he is slicing.

Ill cut through wood with a human made sword, sure, ive done it several times before, I dont need super human strength to cut through wood if the blade is extremely sharp, youve obviously never cut through wood with a sharp blade.


I never said it was blunt, but its not some magical "cut through anything" sharpness kind of sword, the sharpness of the sword is not stated, its most likely the same sharpness of a regular sword.

Depends how thick the wood is, it still requires strength, you think cutting through a tree with a sword would require no strength? Of course it would require a ton of strength, no human in the world can cut through a thick tree with a swing.

leonheartmm Senior Member

wait a minute, this is retarted, in AC it was cutting super clean slices out of large blocks of concrete much much longer than it was{when everything is falling and cloud is trying to get away from sephiroth}, OFCOURSE its magical. cloud is magical, thats the whole point, it can cut throug incorporeal creatures and pound against magical barriers and not to mention, cloud's limit breaks which are also all magical.

as for this fight, this is a pretty easy win for cloud.