United States Presidential Election 2008 - Official Discussion Thread

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I've said it and I'll keep saying it: McCain should pick Huckabee.

He's the only one of the VP candidates that has some fame, is known and liked (particularly among younger conservatives who were going for him or Ron Paul), and was the runner up in the primary.

(people know Romney and Giulianni too, but weren't thrilled about voting for them)

Plus, he could get some commercials with Chuck Norris! 👆

Right now this thread should be about Obama/Biden vs. McCain/TBA, not who McCain should pick.

Originally posted by Strangelove
shouldn't stuff like this be discussed in the thread specifically for that?

Right now this thread should be about Obama/Biden vs. McCain/TBA, not who McCain should pick.

Originally posted by Strangelove
There's no such thing as a pro-abortionist, boyo.

The Japanese.

Originally posted by Strangelove
shouldn't stuff like this be discussed in the thread specifically for that?

Right now this thread should be about Obama/Biden vs. McCain/TBA, not who McCain should pick.

Nah, it's fine.

If anything there are simply too many threads for what's more or less a single topic.

Originally posted by BackFire
Nah, it's fine.

If anything there are simply too many threads for what's more or less a single topic.

I agree, should it not all be merged into the 2008 Presidential Election Discussion Thread? Also, why are they labeled Official, isnt that a bit misleading?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I agree, should it not all be merged into the 2008 Presidential Election Discussion Thread? Also, why are they labeled Official, isnt that a bit misleading?

It's cause the thread starter is a control freak.

baiting...

Originally posted by lord xyz
baiting...

Originally posted by lord xyz
baiting...

Not really.

Originally posted by Bardock42
He'll survive, I'm sure.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Hes also pro-choice which should keep the pro-abortionists happy.

Are you sure such a term even exists...realistically?

Originally posted by BackFire
Bayh would have been an awful awful attack dog, which is something Obama really needed as he himself isn't great at attacking McCain (just not in his nature). Plus he needed an expert on foreign policy which is Obama's great perceived weakness, I think Biden was the best possible selection.

A point I have been making for quite some time. He was and is the best choice.

What better choice is there than the guy that sits across from McCain in the senate steam room and is still willing to thrown his toweled compatriot to the wolves? Are they friends? I guess. Does it matter to either Biden or McCain? Not in the long run. Why? Because the "long-run" is power and money for either one that comes out on top. Personally, I'd have gone with Biden for President and Kucinich as VP. But I support Obama and he's made the best possible choice for the job; far over Clinton. Now all she has to do is behave like she's been told by her own party and the America voting public. The Clintons are honoured guest speakers at the convention, and if they want that status to continue they'll either shape up or have to start their own 3rd party. (A hard thing to do when one of them is in debt.) I like Hilldog, but she lost and she either has to belly up to the bar or realize it's still an hour before closing. Her furture isn't written in stone. She just needs to bide her time. Obama isn't a sure thing yet. She's still fresh on the American tounge. How she chooses to handle that position is up to she and her husband.

I am uncomfortable with only one thing: the similarities between the Kennedy/Johnson situation and the Obama/Biden situation. It's a good thing there's already a war raging. I just hope it doesn't get any worse.

Originally posted by BackFire
Nah, it's fine.

If anything there are simply too many threads for what's more or less a single topic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's cause the thread starter is a control freak.

Originally posted by Devil King
Personally, I'd have gone with Biden for President

From what I've been reading what's being trumped up in the media is that:
Biden is incredibly experienced, knowledgeable and nuanced in the realm of foreign policy and has been around long enough to stand on other areas of policy.
Biden has a relatively compelling narrative, working class roots, middle America, lost his wife and daughter etc - he is someone the Average Joe can relate to seemingly far better than Obama.
Biden is presumably ready to be President since that should be one of the biggest considerations for any VP pick.
On policy the pair can't be too far apart of Biden would never have been picked.

Essentially I wonder whether it will bring to voters mind: why does all of the above count for nil in the end against vague rhetorical prowess in determining the order of the names...

He does of course have the negatives of apparently verbosity, loose lips and boring old white man-ness...

Originally posted by Strangelove
Call me what you will, but if there are separate threads for separate lines of discussion, call me old-fashioned if I think they should be used as such.

I already settled on something and it's not old fashioned. Funny phrasing though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I already settled on something and it's not old fashioned. Funny phrasing though.

If I'm a control freak because I think threads should be used for their original purpose, then so be it.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Yeah, I looked it over afterward and it was dumb.

If I'm a control freak because I think threads should be used for their original purpose, then so be it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
On that note, does it concern anyone that a person may think:
"Is there a reason this ticket isn't reversed?"

From what I've been reading what's being trumped up in the media is that:
Biden is incredibly experienced, knowledgeable and nuanced in the realm of foreign policy and has been around long enough to stand on other areas of policy.
Biden has a relatively compelling narrative, working class roots, middle America, lost his wife and daughter etc - he is someone the Average Joe can relate to seemingly far better than Obama.
Biden is presumably ready to be President since that should be one of the biggest considerations for any VP pick.
On policy the pair can't be too far apart of Biden would never have been picked.

Essentially I wonder whether it will bring to voters mind: why does all of the above count for nil in the end against vague rhetorical prowess in determining the order of the names...

He does of course have the negatives of apparently verbosity, loose lips and boring old white man-ness...

Biden certainly is more exciting than Bayh.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, it's because you can't let a lively conversation go on for the mere fact that the topic is not 100 percent correct. Besides, this is the "Official" discussion thread of the 2008 Presidental Election, who McCain is going to pick is obviously part of it, that you chose to make an additionasl thread really shouldn't distract anyone from discussing it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I guess Biden and Obama are two greats in different ways.

Biden certainly is more exciting than Bayh.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I actually made this thread after the other one. I already said to BF that if he thinks the thread are better suited merged, then I'm fine with that. Well, being from the state that Bayh represents, I can tell you that he's more "exciting" than the meeting gives him credit for.