Originally posted by JustFrame
Who is this tank robot looking guy btw...I would like to have a name if possible.
His name is Mutoid Man. Ever played Smash T.V.?
Originally posted by JustFrame
You want to know a character who's not even within the super elites???Zangief...the dude survived being sucked into a Cyclone while he landed on his head...that's how he learned to idea of the Spinning Pile Driver. If someone like Zangief can survive a cyclone...how about the other more elite characters...you ask me. Surviving a Cyclone>>>>Destroying a robot...btw...SF characters if they are capable of lifting multi ton boulders, telekenesis, sinking islands...oh yes, they would easily dismantle robots with ease.
Do you know Kano? He was thrown off a top of a tower and still manage to survive. Also, very few characters in SF can lift "multi ton boulders" and there are at least two MK characters with telekenesis. As for sinking islands, well, it's a death move, something not new to the MK universe.
Originally posted by JustFrame
Lastly, Balrog did kill an elephant with a single punch, read it and try to refute please, you cannot argue what is canon.
And this is coming from a guy who relies on Tiamat's guide so much. Even in there, it just said Balrog killed an elephant. It didn't say how.
Originally posted by JustFrame
Has any of them put them on league or in par with the most powerful in Street Fighter? Warping through dimensions mean absolutely nothing on a power level of fighting capabilities. Devouring Souls is only to certain characters, and doesn't someone like Shang Tsung need to defeat his opponent before he's able to do so anyhow? In the Alpha Movie, Rose was capable of halting time completely to speak with Ryu directly, and the reason I state this is because Capcom has stated the abilities shown in there would be REAL in the world of the actual Street Fighter Realm.Gods??? [B]Gill IS A GOD
, Ingrid is a Goddess...what more do you seriously need? Just think here for a second,
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And here I thought you were using Ingrid's "time traveling" and "skipping through clouds" feat to be impressive. And no, Shang Tsung can do it anytime. And so what if Rose can stop time? Taven can do that too, so?
Originally posted by JustFrame
Has anyone of them sunk an entire island with his fist while wounded from a fight? Has anyone of them cracked open an entire mountain with their fist while training? Has anyone of them walked in crushing deep ocean waters and taken out a carrier ship? Do any of them launch projectiles at speeds that would rival those of Gouki's?
Not as far as I know. However, how fast is Gouki's fireballs anyway? Now let me ask you this; can anyone punch so hard they knock the other persons head off? Can anyone punch so hard body explodes?
Originally posted by JustFrame
Btw, that's just Gouki we are talking about...we still got Gill, Ingrid, and Oro, although we do not fully know Oro's feats yet, he is considered on par with Gouki and the likes, the guy defeated Ryu with one arm, he can lift objects with telekinesis, and has not been seen yet utilizing both of his arms in full combat, which would be his absolute full potential. Not to mention, with one arm he magically locked away, he was still able to lift a huge boulder with one finger.
And we still got Onaga, Raiden, Blaze, Fujin, and more. We've not see their full potential yet.
Originally posted by JustFrame
For crying out loud, Gouki split a mountain in four in his non full power mode...imagine Gouki utilizing his full strength capabilites...so seroiusly...can Liu do anything like this? Oh wait...in his entire canon storyline he does not even come close to this kind of feat.
Yet we never see Shin Akuma do anything in his canon storyline nor do we see regular Gouki using those attacks on people, just objects. But you keep bringing that up.
Originally posted by JustFrame
Liu Kang's fatalities are pointless, because #1, Liu Kang himself does not like to kill, and secondly to morth into his "dragon" as to how much time is needed, needs to be answered. However, this fatality is completely meaningless, because one it does not give Liu any "distictive" advantage, and it also does not give Liu greater power, and also makes him a larger target.
For one thing, I'm not even using the "dragon" fatality. I'm only using the ones that are more closer to his abilities and those fatalities would indeed kill Liu Kang. Also, you're saying Liu Kang himself does not like to kill but then you gotta remember Gouki doesn't just use his death abilities out of the clear blue in a middle of the fight. He only rarely uses them.
Originally posted by JustFrame
Fatalities, are completely irrelevant and give nothing to the advantage of Liu, whom against Gouki, would be easily able to land a Shungokusatsu on Liu...and Liu has no ability to defend against it.
Fatalities are definitely relevant. The original Sub-Zero (Noob Saibot) performed his on Scorpion in the storyline. And yeah, it does give Liu Kang an advantage; if his gives him enough strength to knock someone's body into pieces something Gouki has never withstood, then yeah.
Originally posted by JustFrame
Look at his achievements all to the time of his death by a kill from Tseng Tsung...(and btw...you would never be able to catch Gouki off guard that pathetically either.)
I personally think that was just bad writing anyway.
Originally posted by JustFrame
He has done basically everything a "chosen one" has done, however at his absolute peak level, post-Dead Liu, are any of his feats on par with that of Gouki? Please, write in full detail of how he is able to contend with Gouki?
Seeing that he's quite skilled and beaten powerful, stronger beings, and can power up his punches to that would kill someone in no time, I think it's really obvious he can contend with Gouki. Plus, I really don't have all night.
Originally posted by JustFrame
By shooting slower projectiles then Gouki? By trying to land a flying kick on Gouki? Or wait the Bicycle kick right???? You've got to be joking me, Gouki's Gou Shoryuken is greater then ALL of Liu's 3 signature specials rolled into one.
Gouki has more then double the special techniques that Liu has, and is capable of doing.[/B][/QUOTE]
Liu Kang's projectiles aren't slower. Heck, they could be more deadlier than Gouki's, based what we see. And how is Gouki's Gou Shoryuken is greater than all three? And it doesn't matter how many techniques he has, Shang Tsung's got more techniques that Gouki and Liu Kang beat him.
Originally posted by JustFrame
That's because Street Fighter characters are more crazy over the top then the overall cast of Mortal Kombat. People are dodging bullets, sinking islands, reviving themselves, hopping over clouds, surviving cyclones, killing elephants with one blow. Heck, even Gouken was seen shifting the weight of an entire waterfall with a punch that didn't even seem to exert alot of strength if any at all.
Since when did Ken and Guile ever did that? And I should once again refer to you the fatalities, if you wanna talk about "over the top".
Liu Kang wouldn't be put in the same bucket as Chun-Li. Many of the MK characters are physically on another level than most of the SF characters.
So you throw childish insults, huh? Perhaps you should work on your comments a bit more if you want people to understand. And I wouldn't say knocking peoples head off is closer to reality. That's just ridiculous to even think that.
Actually, Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn not the strongest of the MK world. Also, do you see Gouki knocking someone's head off or making them exploded with a punch?
Bull crap. Shao Kahn>>>>Rose. She's never shown anything to stand up to Shao Kahn's best. Also, Shao Kahn can get more powerful but he doesn't need souls to do that. Also, since when has Charlie moved at super sonic speeds?
Read what I said about fatalities. It's not just some "game mechanic thing", seeing that Noob Saibot has actually ripped someone's head off.
I find it hypocritical that you would tell me to show you where Liu Kang has done this in the storyline but you throw in Ryu's street fighting descriptions despite not happening in the storyline.
Gouki is far more skilled than Kang. HAving mastered the most powerful martial art in the world and IMPROVED it. He is literally a fighting genius.
Gouki is stronger than Liu Kang.
Gouki is faster.
Is more durable.
Is more powerful.
Is more experienced.
Is more skilled.
Hits much harder.
Is a much more efficient killer.
Name ONE thing Liu Lame has over Gouki.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Gouki is far more skilled than Kang. HAving mastered the most powerful martial art in the world and IMPROVED it. He is literally a fighting genius.Gouki is stronger than Liu Kang.
Gouki is faster.
Is more durable.
Is more powerful.
Is more experienced.
Is more skilled.
Hits much harder.
Is a much more efficient killer.
Name ONE thing Liu Lame has over Gouki.
Skills. Liu Kang has mastered six skills as opposed to Gouki's just one. When was his style said to be the most powerful martial art in the world? Also, Gouki's speed in a fight doesn't look all that fast.
Like I said the only reason I say Gouki wins is because he has more death moves. This sure isn't a stomp do to the fact that Liu Kang got attacks that CAN kill Gouki.
Also, in my post before that, I meant to say:
Originally posted by SmashBro
For one thing, I'm not even using the "dragon" fatality. I'm only using the ones that are more closer to his abilities and those fatalities would indeed kill Gouki.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. Quality over quantity, oh, and Gouki added several aspects of other styles to his own to make it more effective. Gouki is older and has been training his whole life as a fighter, and Ansatsuken is a style that kills in one move, can fire Ki Blasts, and can send you to hell. By feats, it is easily the strongest.
Skills. Liu Kang has mastered six skills as opposed to Gouki's just one. When was his style said to be the most powerful martial art in the world? Also, Gouki's speed in a fight doesn't look all that fast.Like I said the only reason I say Gouki wins is because he has more death moves. This sure isn't a stomp do to the fact that Liu Kang got attacks that CAN kill Gouki.
Gouki's speed sure as hell was greater than anything Liu Kang, or anyone in MK has shown.
More death moves, and better death moves. And his aren't really slow like Kang's either. And Gouki can survive Liu Kang's moves, cause, you know, he has survived more powerful things.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Quality over quantity, oh, and Gouki added several aspects of other styles to his own to make it more effective. Gouki is older and has been training his whole life as a fighter, and Ansatsuken is a style that kills in one move, can fire Ki Blasts, and can send you to hell. By feats, it is easily the strongest.Gouki's speed sure as hell was greater than anything Liu Kang, or anyone in MK has shown.
More death moves, and better death moves. And his aren't really slow like Kang's either. And Gouki can survive Liu Kang's moves, cause, you know, he has survived more powerful things.
1. I really would like to know what are those other styles are. And sure Gouki's older and more experience, but guess what? So were Liu Kang's enemies and they were moreso than Gouki.
Gouki's not that fast in the fights though.
No he hasn't. Nobody he's fought in SF can do the things that are on par with Liu Kang's death moves. His death moves may be faster to pull off than Liu Kang's though. But I gotta say, Gouki fights the way he did in the SFIV anime, I don't think he would survive against Liu Kang in a fight.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. The only one I can think of right now is Aikido. I would have to look it up again. Which only proves how weak Liu's enemies are.
1. I really would like to know what are those other styles are. And sure Gouki's older and more experience, but guess what? So were Liu Kang's enemies and they were moreso than Gouki.Gouki's not that fast in the fights though.
No he hasn't. Nobody he's fought in SF can do the things that are on par with Liu Kang's death moves. His death moves may be faster to pull off than Liu Kang's though. But I gotta say, Gouki fights the way he did in the SFIV anime, I don't think he would survive against Liu Kang in a fight.
2. Faster than Liu Lame.
3. ...Dude, Bison can effortlessly annihilate a village, Gen can kill with a slight touch, Gill can rain meteors, and Ryu has greater strength feats than anything Liu has.
And Liu's death moves are so slow I could dodge them.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. The only one I can think of right now is Aikido. I would have to look it up again. Which only proves how weak Liu's enemies are.2. Faster than Liu Lame.
3. ...Dude, Bison can effortlessly annihilate a village, Gen can kill with a slight touch, Gill can rain meteors, and Ryu has greater strength feats than anything Liu has.
And Liu's death moves are so slow I could dodge them.
1. No, it proves how good a fighter Liu Kang is.
2. How fast?
3. The only thing that was worth mentioning was his fight with Gen. Ryu having greater strength feats doesn't mean he can do what Liu Kang can do. Also, you forget Gouki caught a weaker Bison off-guard and that he never fought Gill.
Please! Your head would be flying up in the air by the time you even think to dodge.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. No, only that he can beat a bunch of weak immortals who spend no real time training their skills as well.
1. No, it proves how good a fighter Liu Kang is.2. How fast?
3. The only thing that was worth mentioning was his fight with Gen. Ryu having greater strength feats doesn't mean he can do what Liu Kang can do. Also, you forget Gouki caught a weaker Bison off-guard and that he never fought Gill.
Please! Your head would be flying up in the air by the time you even think to dodge.
2. ...Faster than Liu Kang. 😐
3. Yes, it does, Ryu has far superior strength feats. Bison wasn't Shin when he destroyed the village. He killed Gill.
4. So now Liu Lame is faster than thought? The move takes like 2 seconds to do.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No, only that he can beat a bunch of weak immortals who spend no real time training their skills as well.2. ...Faster than Liu Kang. 😐
3. Yes, it does, Ryu has far superior strength feats. Bison wasn't Shin when he destroyed the village. He killed Gill.
4. So now Liu Lame is faster than thought? The move takes like 2 seconds to do.
1. Bull crap! They've fought for many years and still trains their abilities.
2. In otherwords, you don't really know. And seeing that his combat skills aren't any faster than Liu Kang's, I don't know what you're getting.
3. And how long did Ryu's attack took?
Originally posted by SmashBro1. Never seen Kahn, Onaga, or that fallen Elder God(What's his name) train. Tsung is the only one who does.
1. Bull crap! They've fought for many years and still trains their abilities.2. In otherwords, you don't really know. And seeing that his combat skills aren't any faster than Liu Kang's, I don't know what you're getting.
3. And how long did Ryu's attack took?
2. ...Going by his speed in the SFIV anime, he is faster, hell, going by GAMEPLAY he is faster.
Here's a funny thought, how's about YOU prove Liu Lame is as fast as Gouki?
3. What?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Never seen Kahn, Onaga, or that fallen Elder God(What's his name) train. Tsung is the only one who does.2. ...Going by his speed in the SFIV anime, he is faster, hell, going by GAMEPLAY he is faster.
Here's a funny thought, how's about YOU prove Liu Lame is as fast as Gouki?
3. What?
1. Onaga most likely doesn't train. Shao Kahn and Shinnok might be more busy kicking butts than training but seeing that they do know how to fight, I wouldn't say that they don't train at all.
2. ...What? His speed in the SFIV anime was normal. The only thing that looked fast was his air kick which doesn't look anything different from Liu Kang's Flying Kick. Also, if you wanna go by gameplay, Liu Kang is fast too, depending on what game you're using.
3. Ryu charging up his Hadouken, how long did that took? I should I also remind you that Ryu even manage to catch him with a Shoryuken, with Gouki just standing.
Going by how he fought for his life in deadly alliance, I don't think he stand even the slightest chance against Akuma.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. Considering he has been dead for many years, yeah, prolly not. Shinnok kicks ass? Didn't he get pwned by JOHNNY FRICKIN CAGE? Lol. Shao Kahn is just big and strong, he's slow as hell.
1. Onaga most likely doesn't train. Shao Kahn and Shinnok might be more busy kicking butts than training but seeing that they do know how to fight, I wouldn't say that they don't train at all.2. ...What? His speed in the SFIV anime was normal. The only thing that looked fast was his air kick which doesn't look anything different from Liu Kang's Flying Kick. Also, if you wanna go by gameplay, Liu Kang is fast too, depending on what game you're using.
3. Ryu charging up his Hadouken, how long did that took? I should I also remind you that Ryu even manage to catch him with a Shoryuken, with Gouki just standing.
2. No it wasn't. 😐
I mean seriously, are you ACTUALLY saying that normal humans can fight that fast? Didn't look different? Liu's flying kick isn't that fast and doesn't trabel that far.
Prove Liu Lame is as fast as Gouki.
3. As far as Ryu catching Gouki with a Shoryuken, well Ryu is quick enough to effortlessly dodge bullets so that doesn't prove Gouki is slow. The Hadouken scene was clearly for dramatic visual effect.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Considering he has been dead for many years, yeah, prolly not. Shinnok kicks ass? Didn't he get pwned by JOHNNY FRICKIN CAGE? Lol. Shao Kahn is just big and strong, he's slow as hell.2. No it wasn't. 😐
I mean seriously, are you ACTUALLY saying that normal humans can fight that fast? Didn't look different? Liu's flying kick isn't that fast and doesn't trabel that far.
Prove Liu Lame is as fast as Gouki.
3. As far as Ryu catching Gouki with a Shoryuken, well Ryu is quick enough to effortlessly dodge bullets so that doesn't prove Gouki is slow. The Hadouken scene was clearly for dramatic visual effect.
1. Shao Kahn sure isn't slow. I don't know where you come up with that. And you seem to be making it seem like Johnny Cage is weak or something. He may joke around but he's not pushover and like many MK fighters, he's not just a regular human.
2. Yes it was.
😑 Boy, you must be crazy. Liu Kang's Flying Kick travels fast and that's seen even in gameplay. And Gouki wasn't really fighting that fast against Ryu. Both Ryu and Gouki were fighting at the same speed, which wasn't fast at all and I'm talking in terms of punching and kicking.
3. Excuses excuses. 🙄 I keep hearing that Ryu can dodge bullets but apparently, it doesn't seem help him all that much in fights. ALso, as you can see the video, Ryu also attempted to shoot his hadouken at Gouki and got interrupted. I don't think they would have him to do it a second JUST for visual effects.
Originally posted by dvampireAwesome!!!!
Going by how he fought for his life in deadly alliance, I don't think he stand even the slightest chance against Akuma.
Originally posted by dvampire
Going by how he fought for his life in deadly alliance, I don't think he stand even the slightest chance against Akuma.
That was a small little fight that was obviously PIS. You should look at his fights in SM. Also, seeing that Akuma haven't struck me as impressive as people claim he is in fights, I don't see what's this suppose to prove.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Awesome!!!!
You wouldn't happened to post under that video 33 minutes ago would you?