Originally posted by Deadline
They didn't give him blood because they thought he was already dead.Please use your head. I don't mean anybody as in the rest of the MU I mean he heals way faster than normal
and if Wolverine was in a situation where it was stated that he used sheer willpower to recover from an injury would I need somebody to specifically tell me his HF was involved or should I use common sense?
You already stated that no normal person couldn't have detected it so whats the problem? If it was simply rushing air then anybody could have replicated that feat.
They treated him. They're a hospital, and he had bandages on from their treatment.Speculating on exactly what they did to him like you did is illogical. Why? Because they didn't go into specifics at all about what they did, but they did treat him, that's obvious.
lol, you really need to take your own advice on that one.
Cap is the prime human physical specimen, so it's only logical that he heals faster than normal humans. All his bodily functions are running perfectly and healthy. When you're in better shape bodily, you heal better than those who are in worst shape. He's in the best shape possible. Also, remember, this is comics, Batman can heal with meditation.lol
oh my goodness. This is what you're not getting:
Captain America didn't use willpower to recover from his injury. He used willpower to force himself out of his own metabolism induced shut down mode. Looks over the scans again very slowly.......maybe try reading a few text bubbles.
Captain America is no normal person. He's experienced and extremely skilled. He's trained to notice the slightest forewarning of an attack. It was simply rushing air, but that doesn't mean that any old joe could have noticed such a slight giveaway.
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Originally posted by Daredevil1
By his own logic Slade has not performed any Super-Man type of feats....LOL. This is really to easy.
Originally posted by Deadline
EXACTLY!
You guys are like two pea-brains in a pod, you know that.
Daredevil1, please explain the "reasoning" behind that ridiculous statement. I'm sure it'll be eye-opening.
Originally posted by DeadlineTo be fair, you couldn't handle it from the beginning.
Jesus Christ.....can't handle anymore of this.
anyway, as for as this match goes, Slade in both scenarios.
He's faster and more durable. His healing factor ensures that he can take more punishment than Steve can take from him. His brain is leagues above Cap's, allowing him to strategize better during mid-fight, and avoid attacks through super-senses(he's already faster). Cap's best bet in the standard gear round is his shield, but Slade has taken hits from Donna Troy and kept fighting undetered. She certainly hits harder, at class 100, then Steve can hit with his shield. Also, one shot from his staff, which has destroyed helicopters in a single blast, would be very problematic for Steve. Slade also has various items, including extremely powerful explosives on hand and probably better body armor.
As far as the h2h bout:
How will cap physically KO Slade? Or even hurt him enough to incapacitate him with his bare hands before Slade does so to him?
Wow..... just.......... no, wow......
This is ridiculous.... What makes Slade's PIS feats any more concrete than Cap's?
You guys are sitting there trying to rationalize that Cap's somehow fall into the underwhelming minority but Slade's don't?
Cap litterally has a Dozen feats for everyone Slade's ever done, and at least two to three PIS feats for each one Slade's pulled off.
And.... Deadline's right. We have a general concensus that Cap is > Batman. Slade may be > Batman but it most certainly wasn't by much.
Deadlines also correct in Cap's "high end" feats being the crap he pulls on a daily basis.. He punched out the Hulk... terrible writing? Sure... but he's also punched out Thunderball, put down Wrecker, beat up Griffon, stunned Namor underwater, put Sinisters Superman/Namor clone to sleep, put the boots to the controller, punishing Iron Clad, outclassed, bewildered and beat classic Thor by getting his hammer awy from him.... Oh... and I can certainly keep going.
Throwing a shield that reaches esape velocity? Yup... he's also ripped vans in half with Shield tosses and knocked out strict superhumans with ricochets.
You people are acting as if DS has some major "superhuman" advantage because he's taken on teams of goodguys as if Cap's feats are somehow able to be swept under the rug. EHH Wrong...
That I am willing to put my distaste for Alfy aside at the moment should show you people how serious I am.
Both of these guys are people who pull out the epic jobber aura and beat up on supers when they have their backs against the wall, alternatively, they also fail to be incredibly impressive when put against fantastic street levels in one on one's. They're virtually the same character and the only real advantage that DS has afforded to him is his healing factor.. I'm not convinced it'll be enough to matter.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wow..... just.......... no, wow......This is ridiculous.... What makes Slade's PIS feats any more concrete than Cap's?
You guys are sitting there trying to rationalize that Cap's somehow fall into the underwhelming minority but Slade's don't?
Cap litterally has a Dozen feats for everyone Slade's ever done, and at least two to three PIS feats for each one Slade's pulled off.And.... Deadline's right. We have a general concensus that Cap is > Batman. Slade may be > Batman but it most certainly wasn't by much.
Deadlines also correct in Cap's "high end" feats being the crap he pulls on a daily basis.. He punched out the Hulk... terrible writing? Sure... but he's also punched out Thunderball, put down Wrecker, beat up Griffon, stunned Namor underwater, put Sinisters Superman/Namor clone to sleep, put the boots to the controller, punishing Iron Clad, outclassed, bewildered and beat classic Thor by getting his hammer awy from him.... Oh... and I can certainly keep going.Throwing a shield that reaches esape velocity? Yup... he's also ripped vans in half with Shield tosses and knocked out strict superhumans with ricochets.
You people are acting as if DS has some major "superhuman" advantage because he's taken on teams of goodguys as if Cap's feats are somehow able to be swept under the rug. EHH Wrong...
That I am willing to put my distaste for Alfy aside at the moment should show you people how serious I am.
Both of these guys are people who pull out the epic jobber aura and beat up on supers when they have their backs against the wall, alternatively, they also fail to be incredibly impressive when put against fantastic street levels in one on one's. They're virtually the same character and the only real advantage that DS has afforded to him is his healing factor.. I'm not convinced it'll be enough to matter.
Cap is > Batman, but not by much as well. Pretty much everytime Batman encountered DS, he lost.
Originally posted by Juk3nCap isn't going to do any better against the Titans and JLA than Slade did. I was giving Cap the benefit of the doubt. Slade lives in a world with Supermen and Flashe's. He sees everything in some weird slowed down time. With his enhanced reflexes, yes he would be faster than Cap.
Debateable, debateable, sure, and doubt it.
Originally posted by Juk3nActually DS would.None of them is the combined might and precise skill of a team as the JLA or the Titans. It's the whole feat that counts. Not just what was done to individuals but over coming team effort as well.DS is Captain America gone bad with the Super Serum still in tact.
Cap has enhanced reflexes. DS wouldn't be able to knock out Hulk, beat namor, tear the armor from war machine (u) you've proved nothing.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Actually DS would.None of them is the combined might and precise skill of a team as the JLA or the Titans. It's the whole feat that counts. Not just what was done to individuals but over coming team effort as well.
And what was the line-up of the JLA DS took out? Was he prep'd specifically to take them on? detailed info and access to special weapons and all that? if so..how is that remotley the same as Cap/Hulk or namor? 😬
Originally posted by Juk3nIt's better. All the prep in the universe won't help you Superman take out Thanos if he doesn't have the skill, power, and speed to do it. Get my drift. Plus Cap is super uber. He knows probably every super human on the planet. He knows what they can take and what they can't. He is the avengers leader and tactician. Niether Namore or the Hulk are invulnerable.
And what was the line-up of the JLA DS took out? Was he prep'd specifically to take them on? detailed info and access to special weapons and all that? if so..how is that remotley the same as Cap/Hulk or namor? 😬