Darth Martin
Senior Member
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The fact of the matter is the Marvel U MA hierarchy goes up to 11, and Cap is that 11. The DC chart only goes up to 10 and Batman isn't even holding that top spot. Cap is more skilled than Batman.
That's a flawed assessment. Just because Cap is higher in his universe doesn't mean he'd be higher than Batman on the DC hierarchy. If anything, I'd say that the DC martial artists are more formal, sacred, and more techinically skilled fighters than the ones in Marvel. Most of the people in the Marvel hierarchy are superhuman like Wolverine, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Panther, or enhanced like Cap. You can't really say the same for DC. With the exception of Black Canary, most everyone else aren't
classified as superhuman. I use the term "classified" because although characters such as Cap and Bats are called "human" they seemingly perform "superhuman" feats.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I know some people like to fool themselves into thinking that Captain America is the Marvel equivalent of Batman and that the differences between the two are miniscule, but that isn't the case at all Batman just isn't on the same level as Captain America. Now if Batman was physically the equal of Deathstroke then he might actually be on par with Captain America. That's the reality of the situation. Captain America is a strong and fast as Deathstroke (stronger and faster actually but just go with it for the sake of clarity) and as skilled Batman (ditto). Steve is too strong and fast for Batman to beat, and too skilled for Deathstroke to beat. He is the best of both of them. Slade would need prep to take Cap and so would Batman.
I understand your logic and that is the way it
should be. However, that just isn't the case. If you brought me speed and strength feats from Cap, chances are I could bring you a Batman feat to match it.
Batman or Deathstroke wouldn't need prep to take Steve. In my book, they take the majorities against him. The shield is amazing in combat, but it doesn't outweigh the versatility of Batman's utility belt. What about Deathstroke's sword and power staff? Grenades? All three of these guys are in the same ballpark as far as tactics, resources, and battlefield intelligence goes. Granted, Cap and Batman are alot more technically skilled in martial arts......but I'd say Deathstroke is physically superior to either of them(yes, Cap too). Captain America is the Marvel's answer(I won't say equivalent because both hold certain advantages against the other) to Batman in not being classified as a superhuman, tactical knowledge, and martial arts prowess.
Deathstroke is better than both of these guys in my book. That's with standard equipment. Pure H2H; it could be argued that Batman and Cap would have an edge with them being more skilled.