Originally posted by Toku King
He used rubber bullets in 'The Dark Knight Returns'.
yeah, and he also gunned down one of the mutants with a sub machine-gun no rubber bullets there lol
I know the thing with batman is that gun's are bad and that using one would compromise his philosophy...,what ever that is. I'm just curious though, how do you all think using automatic weapons with non-lethal ammunition would change his style? Would we still see batman swinging from rooftops or would he just sit back with a sniper rifle and take fools down from afar?
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The Punisher is what Batman should be. The Punisher is what Batman would be if he wasn't under the influence of his own pretentiousness and crystal meth.
Actually, The Punisher is what Batman would be if he wasn't under the influence of his own pretentiousness .... oh and if he was much, much worse.
Hardly. The Puinisher's a realist. batman's an idealist... to an extreme point.
How many criminals does Batman put in jail just so that they can break out two days later and kill more people compared to The Punisher?
If The Punisher was in charge of Gotham City and he had access to the resources Batman had, The Joker, Two-Face, etc. would never be a problem. Ever. Because they wouldn't be around anymore. Joker would not have been allowed to go to jail and break out the next day after he blows up that orphanage or kills that security guard who's just doing his job.
So no, Batman is an idiot compared to the Punisher. I think that every person that The Joker kills batman should make it a point to go to that persons familiy and explain how he could have prevented that death by killing Joker years ago, but didn't because it wasn't "heroic". He should then explain to them how the loved one's death was instrumental in "justice" or some shit. If he did that to every family then maybe I would have respect for him and people like him... but they don't, and so I don't.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Hardly. The Puinisher's a realist. batman's an idealist... to an extreme point.How many criminals does Batman put in jail just so that they can break out two days later and kill more people compared to The Punisher?
If The Punisher was in charge of Gotham City and he had access to the resources Batman had, The Joker, Two-Face, etc. would never be a problem. Ever. Because they wouldn't be around anymore. Joker would not have been allowed to go to jail and break out the next day after he blows up that orphanage or kills that security guard who's just doing his job.
So no, Batman is an idiot compared to the Punisher. I think that every person that The Joker kills batman should make it a point to go to that persons familiy and explain how he could have prevented that death by killing Joker years ago, but didn't because it wasn't "heroic". He should then explain to them how the loved one's death was instrumental in "justice" or some shit. If he did that to every family then maybe I would have respect for him and people like him... but they don't, and so I don't.
...if you are replying to me, I was just referring to their skills, which, indubitably, Batman is superior in.
It's not his fault that court system is corrupt. It is his fault that he accepts that and let's them have their way. The reason why Daredevil became a vigilante is because he was a lawyer so he knew how bullshit the court system was. He put people like the Kingpin's thugs behind bars just to watch them get out and kill someone the next weekend. DD decided that the court system sucked, and he was tired of innocent people being killed for no ****ing reason. So... he could have sat on his ass and done nothing, opening the paper every morning to see that someone he put in jail has robbed a bank and killed two tellers, then yawn and eat his breakfast. Or... he could go out and **** people up so bad that even if they do go to jail they'll think twice about ever doing any crimes again. Punisher's the same way. Batman isn't. He apparently doesn't care how many people die, otherwise he'd do what needs to be done and let his ego and his image suffer. Oh well.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It's not his fault that court system is corrupt. It is his fault that he accepts that and let's them have their way. The reason why Daredevil became a vigilante is because he was a lawyer so he knew how bullshit the court system was. He put people like the Kingpin's thugs behind bars just to watch them get out and kill someone the next weekend. DD decided that the court system sucked, and he was tired of innocent people being killed for no ****ing reason. So... he could have sat on his ass and done nothing, opening the paper every morning to see that someone he put in jail has robbed a bank and killed two tellers, then yawn and eat his breakfast. Or... he could go out and **** people up so bad that even if they do go to jail they'll think twice about ever doing any crimes again. Punisher's the same way. Batman isn't. He apparently doesn't care how many people die, otherwise he'd do what needs to be done and let his ego and his image suffer. Oh well.
Meh, you could say that about everyone that ever had the chance to kill Joker, which are thousands of people.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
No. If I had the chance and the ability too I probably would, though.I don't see the relevence, though. mmm
I'm sure.
Anyways, it's just odd, you think Batman is pretentious and an idiot, for actually sticking by the law (something you apparently do, too). I enjoy Punisher a lot, he is a great character, and I appreciate his approach towards crime, but I can just as well understand and appreciate Batman's, especially since I, myself, am more like Batman in that aspect, and don't really feel that I have the right to decide over life and death of any person, so I get Batman's position.
But hey, when I see you on the TV, pulling a Punisher I will take into consideration whether a character is an idiot for not doing it 😐