Originally posted by Kovacs86
I'm going to assume you're referring to Harvey Dent, in which case I will simply point out that I and others have had this argument a thousand times and actually Batman didn't have a lot of choice. Please expand on what "shit" means in this context.
No.
I'm referring to the whole "I won't die from this height!"
"I'm counting on it." *toss*
Uh- yeah. Yeah, you can die from that height. 😬 People do all the time.
What would Batman have done if the gangster's leg had buckeld in addition to breaking and he hit his head died? Would he just be like "oops.... oh well", and be done with it?
Tossing SWAT teams off of buildings. Yeah they were tied to ropes, but what if the rope snapped, or what if they smacked into the side of the wal land got lacerated by the glass? Or what if in falling someone panicked and pulled the trigger of his gun, injuring or killing someone?
Driving your car at 200 miles an hour and firing rockets= asking to hurt someone. If he's driving at 2000 MPH down a narrow street how can he possibly know for a fact that all those cars he was blowing up were empty?
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klowni'm sure he would avoid getting served a lawsuit pretty easily.
No.I'm referring to the whole "I won't die from this height!"
"I'm counting on it." *toss*
Uh- yeah. Yeah, you can die from that height. 😬 People do all the time.
What would Batman have done if the gangster's leg had buckeld in addition to breaking and he hit his head died? Would he just be like "oops.... oh well", and be done with it?
Tossing SWAT teams off of buildings. Yeah they were tied to ropes, but what if the rope snapped, or what if they smacked into the side of the wal land got lacerated by the glass? Or what if in falling someone panicked and pulled the trigger of his gun, injuring or killing someone?
Driving your car at 200 miles an hour and firing rockets= asking to hurt someone. If he's driving at 2000 MPH down a narrow street how can he possibly know for a fact that all those cars he was blowing up were empty?
azrael's batman had a full auto batarang launcher if that counts.
oh and then there was that bracer-launcher that launched the spikes into the joker's face. why wouldn't that kill him? it imbeded pretty deeply in wood. flesh is softer.
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
No.I'm referring to the whole "I won't die from this height!"
"I'm counting on it." *toss*
Uh- yeah. Yeah, you can die from that height. 😬 People do all the time.
What would Batman have done if the gangster's leg had buckeld in addition to breaking and he hit his head died? Would he just be like "oops.... oh well", and be done with it?
Tossing SWAT teams off of buildings. Yeah they were tied to ropes, but what if the rope snapped, or what if they smacked into the side of the wal land got lacerated by the glass? Or what if in falling someone panicked and pulled the trigger of his gun, injuring or killing someone?
Driving your car at 200 miles an hour and firing rockets= asking to hurt someone. If he's driving at 2000 MPH down a narrow street how can he possibly know for a fact that all those cars he was blowing up were empty?
Well, you've got to suspend belief, even in these films, to be honest. I thought the car chase in Begins would surely have resulted in the death of several policemen, too...
However, as for the thing when he threw Maroni down, I'm pretty sure if his leg had buckled, Maroni would have been slowed down enough so that he wouldn't die if he hit his head. But hey... Batman's done some pretty dangerous stuff in comics. In DKR, he did chuck a guy through a glass window, which severed one of the guy's arteries, and he kicked a cop through a brick wall in Year One. He does take some risks. Just suspend your disbelief. It isn't hard.
In that world, Batman gets away with a lot of foolish risks and people don't die.
Originally posted by NonSensi-KlownAnd what if he walks out the door and trips and kicks a ball that flys into a window and th glass shards fall on a dog that runs barking past a cook carrying deep frying fat who is so surprised he yanks the pot and spills all the hot oil on a bystanding child which dies of the inflicted burn wounds? What then?
No.I'm referring to the whole "I won't die from this height!"
"I'm counting on it." *toss*
Uh- yeah. Yeah, you can die from that height. 😬 People do all the time.
What would Batman have done if the gangster's leg had buckeld in addition to breaking and he hit his head died? Would he just be like "oops.... oh well", and be done with it?
Tossing SWAT teams off of buildings. Yeah they were tied to ropes, but what if the rope snapped, or what if they smacked into the side of the wal land got lacerated by the glass? Or what if in falling someone panicked and pulled the trigger of his gun, injuring or killing someone?
Driving your car at 200 miles an hour and firing rockets= asking to hurt someone. If he's driving at 2000 MPH down a narrow street how can he possibly know for a fact that all those cars he was blowing up were empty?
Better stay at home, Batsy.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
Well, you've got to suspend belief, even in these films, to be honest. I thought the car chase in Begins would surely have resulted in the death of several policemen, too...
However, as for the thing when he threw Maroni down, I'm pretty sure if his leg had buckled, Maroni would have been slowed down enough so that he wouldn't die if he hit his head. But hey... Batman's done some pretty dangerous stuff in comics. In DKR, he did chuck a guy through a glass window, which severed one of the guy's arteries, and he kicked a cop through a brick wall in Year One. He does take some risks. Just suspend your disbelief. It isn't hard.
In that world, Batman gets away with a lot of foolish risks and people don't die.
I'm willing to suspend my disbelief about certain things, but not something like a code. It doesn't matter if it's a movie, you can't go around saying that it's against your moral code to kill someone, yet be so reckless with people's lives. Tossing people off of three story buildings, for example. My uncle died when he threw himself off a three story building. 😬
And what if he walks out the door and trips and kicks a ball that flys into a window and th glass shards fall on a dog that runs barking past a cook carrying deep frying fat who is so surprised he yanks the pot and spills all the hot oil on a bystanding child which dies of the inflicted burn wounds? What then?
Than it was a complete accident and was completely beyond his control and his knowledge.
If Batman was fighting the mobster guy and he socked him and the mobster stumbled and dived for a gun, but missed and then fell off the building, that's one thing. Kidnapping a man who is at your mercy, than tossing him off a building, is a completely different matter that you could have easily prevented.
Do you have a point, or are you just going to play semantics with me?
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
If Batman was fighting the mobster guy and he socked him and the mobster stumbled and dived for a gun, but missed and then fell off the building, that's one thing. Kidnapping a man who is at your mercy, than tossing him off a building, is a completely different matter that you could have easily prevented.Do you have a point, or are you just going to play semantics with me?
You do realize that semantics are not the opposite of "having a point"?
And the point is, Batman takes risks. He does it for his version of the greater good. You think he's a hypocrite for some odd reason. But he does indeed work on not killing anyone on purpose. I guess you just respect those who just kill everyone over those disliking to kill people.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You do realize that semantics are not the opposite of "having a point"?
I realized that after I posted, yeah. I'm too much of a tough guy to edit that, though.
And the point is, Batman takes risks. He does it for his version of the greater good. You think he's a hypocrite for some odd reason. But he does indeed work on not killing anyone on purpose. I guess you just respect those who just kill everyone over those disliking to kill people.
Bull. Shit.
You can't throw people off of three story buildings, and than act like you're anti-killing.
I don't understand why people seem to have trouble understanding that throwing someone off of a building is not "trying to not kill someone".
It isn't. At all. That's like shooting someone in the chest, and than saying "well... I wasn't trying to kill them! Otherwise I woulda shot 'em in the head!"
I like people who, if they are going to do things to people that has a probable chance of killing them, they don't bullshit around and act like killing is against there code.
Originally posted by NonSensi-KlownWell, to be fair it is a comic based movie. And I'd assume Batman has some knowledge about what likely happens. So it might be more like shooting someone in the leg, which, yes, might kill them, but the risk is much slimmer and it gets their attention.
I realized that after I posted, yeah. I'm too much of a tough guy to edit that, though.Bull. Shit.
You can't throw people off of three story buildings, and than act like you're anti-killing.
I don't understand why people seem to have trouble understanding that throwing someone off of a building is not "trying to not kill someone".
It isn't. At all. That's like shooting someone in the chest, and than saying "well... I wasn't trying to kill them! Otherwise I woulda shot 'em in the head!"
I like people who, if they are going to do things to people that has a probable chance of killing them, they don't bullshit around and act like killing is against there code.