Sephiroth vs Pyron

Started by fascistcrusader10 pages

Sorry champ, but you're still wrong. For stareters her creators never said she wasn't trying, or that she never exeerted herself. Not looking exehausted =/= no exertion. Not even trying and 10% are two different levels. The not even trying comment lets us know Sephiroth could be reading a newspaper and sipping tea and fight on the same level, its less than 1%. Just concede, you'll feel happier, buckaroo : )

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sorry champ, but you're still wrong. For stareters her creators never said she wasn't trying, or that she never exeerted herself. Not looking exehausted =/= no exertion. Not even trying and 10% are two different levels. The not even trying comment lets us know Sephiroth could be reading a newspaper and sipping tea and fight on the same level, its less than 1%. Just concede, you'll feel happier, buckaroo : )

Here's an advice. Watch the anime and THEN give your professional opinion about what she does and does not do. A squirrel can prove to you that Teresa of the Faint Smile werent trying even the slightest.

You are right that the creators never said she exerted, but I know what the word means. I know what it means to not exert and that just happen to be what Teresa was not doing. It doesnt take a creator to have that verified.

but not even trying is using less than 1% of your effort. : ( .05% is a very liberal estimate, it could be as low as .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.

obsidian fury asking you about the official source for your 0.05% claim. till now, you never gave any. was 0,05% just your assumption? if so, then keep it for yourself because you have no proof of that.

WHy are people still giving this attension seeker what he wants? he obviously has no way to debate any of his points nor would he have the ability anyway even if he had the sources to do so.

oh and btw

Originally posted by Obsidian Fury

2. Kain evolve once every 100(1000?) year, and at his current state he is quite the fascinating character. He's not even 1000 yet. Give him 65.000.000 years and you'll see some fire.

2. You wouldnt see some fire but anyway hes actually about 11,000 years old 😄

Originally posted by Burning thought
WHy are people still giving this attension seeker what he wants? he obviously has no way to debate any of his points nor would he have the ability anyway even if he had the sources to do so.

oh and btw

2. You wouldnt see some fire but anyway hes actually about 11,000 years old 😄

I was just looking for an excuse to bring Teresa in shrug

oh ok, fair enough lol 😛 and not seen you in an eternity and a half, welcome back 🙂

This guy is all kinds of slimy 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
oh ok, fair enough lol 😛 and not seen you in an eternity and a half, welcome back 🙂

Yeah it has been a while. Good to be back, although I might be a 'come and go' scenario 😛

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. You wouldnt see some fire but anyway hes actually about 11,000 years old 😄

was the gap between raziel's 'death' and rebirth ever determined as 10,000 years? if so kain is roughly 11,400 - 12,400
if not hes acutally 2400 as of defiance 😬

yes I think so, the Elder God tells Raziel that 10k years has passed since his being thrown into the abyss so your estimation of 12400 is probably correct

Originally posted by Burning thought
WHy are people still giving this attension seeker what he wants? he obviously has no way to debate any of his points nor would he have the ability anyway even if he had the sources to do so.

oh and btw

2. You wouldnt see some fire but anyway hes actually about 11,000 years old 😄

100. 1.000. 10.000. 100.000. It's all nothing really if given 65.000.000 😛

ofc, I just wanted to be picky and correct the age "shrug" 🙂

fasc, stop with the subtle baiting of other posters.

Everyone else, stop taking the bait.

There is an 'ignore poster' function. I suggest that everyone familiarises themselves with it.

Fascist's fixation on Demitri being a "vampire" is annoying.
Plenty of vampires are uber powerful and would beat Sephiroth.
For example, a Great Vampire from Doctor Who.

He D. Kisses is back!!!

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Lifestream is simply energy,if Sephiroth can make his own version of one energy he can make his own version of others. A negative Pyron wouldn't be that hard for him to make.

Wasn't the negative lifestream created by so many people dying from Geostigma (or however you spelt) which is people poisoned by Jenova cells so Sephiroth didn't actually make this Negative Lifestream. Yes, yes it was. He was just able to control it like how Weiss was able to control Omega. Does that mean he created Omega? No.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Magneto doesn't make metal turn against itself either, he uses his own power to crush it an manipulate it as he pleases. I'm simply pointing out all the holes in his points.

Alright let's put Magneto on say earth and let's tell him to destroy the earth. Will he be able to? No. He can only manipulate metal. Now let's put Sephiroth on a planet like say Endor which has no lifestream. Heck even Sephiroth said in AC and I quote: " Those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet, choking it, corroding it."

A planet with no lifestream like Endor has nothing for Sephiroth to chock.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
And the Vong can't be hurt by the force, they are outside of it and are unaffected by manipulations of it. They can't even be sensed with it. You sure are sill, Blax, trying to define yourself with knowledge on a fictional series, but then not even having much of that. : (

Luke Skywalker used his own version of Force Lightning to kill a bunch of Vongs...so you failed.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
I'm afraid that because Pyron cannot even defeat a simple vampire, he isn't nearly as powerful as his worshipers make him out to be. : ( Even worse for the big P, he was owned by count chocula when he was "galaxies strong," but even then he couldn't eat the Earth with millions of years of prep time. He's just a big energy monster, who can be taken down by a very low level being. Sephiroth, by contrast, is a god. He cannot be defeated by anything but his own arrogance. Sorry guys, but Pyron gets pwned. : (

And Sephiroth couldn't even defeat a spiky haired human. Even worse for the little s, he was owned by a SOLDIER reject when he was "a living god." Let's see Cloud pwned him in FF7 and in AC. If Sephiroth is as strong as you say he is he would have been able to dodge or block Cloud's Omnislash both times but he didn't.

You keep calling Pyron weak for getting beat but Sephiroth has been getting his butt handed to him now by the same guy again and again. When push comes to shove Sephiroth couldn't even defend himself against Cloud's limit break attack and was once again pwned. That's some god.

Sorry, ESB, I'm afraid even you can't defend lil pyron. : (

Sephiroth loses because he wants to, he just wants to torture Cloud, not kill him. If he wanted Cloud dead he could simply will him dead.

Pyron, on the other hand, doesn't want to torment count chocula, yet he still loses to him. He can't beat a guy who is hurt by simple sunlight, much less a god like being.

Doesnt the DS vampire guy use magic to absorb Pyron?

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sephiroth loses because he wants to, he just wants to torture Cloud, not kill him. If he wanted Cloud dead he could simply will him dead.

Ooh, look, wild baseless illogic.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Ooh, look, wild baseless illogic.

That's nothing. Read the thread and see what more is said 😉

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Ooh, look, wild baseless illogic.

It really isn't baseless logic, considering on the official AC accounts, even from Square Enix themselves, Sephiroth appeared only to torture Cloud on a mental note and mess around with him, not flat out destroy Cloud.

In fact, Square-Enix has even stated that Sephiroth not once Pre-Nimbleheim, FFVII, and AC did he ever exert his full strength. Meaning, Sephiroth throughout all this time has been holding back and has never show cased his absolute full power, so his true full strength still remains a massive mystery.

The fact is simple, it has been stated that Sephiroth is the single most powerful being in the Final Fantasy VII Universe, the mere fact that he survives death pretty much says it to you and me.

Sephiroth doesn't "defeat" Cloud simply due to plot devices (how stupid would it be if the hero loses in the game...yes, that would be fun spending countless hours in a game only to see a bad ending), not to mention Sephiroth would rather toy with Cloud and try to break him down mentally then outright blow him out psychically, because if Sephiroth wanted to kill Cloud, he could easily do it.

Although I feel that Pyron would win, simply due to the fact that we have been able to gauge Pyron's powers which are on borderline ridiculous, Sephiroth should absolutely not be underrated, because he has never fought at his full potential, so again gauging Sephiroth on his abilities will simply become theory from here on out, until Square-Enix either officially confirms what his full potential is, or makes another Post-FFVII w/e showcasing Sephiroth with his full potential.