Which is why so many people consider me an authority, and they consider you a pathetically hilarious fanboy?[/
I dont know why they consider you a authority when half of the time youre taking things out of context and basically posting scans that dont mean jack. I think that you're average. Some of the best debaters is in the comic book vs forum.
Because she is specifically weak to piercing attacks. Yes, I know it's stupid, but it's canon.
and has also been injured by blast and koed by blast also. Superman heat vision has good showings and sometimes it has bad showing. Average showing, superman heat vision aint shit.
Last time I checked, HV was not a physical piercing attack.
It dont have to be a physical attack since wonder woman has fallen to blast on so many of occasions.
Who says he's not allowed to sundip in a fight?
who's to say that if he was in a fight his opponent would ALLOW him to sundip.
Besides, you're ignoring the fact that WarWorld was engaging its full throttle countermeasure against his force, and its engines were powered by the leftover power of Imperiex (who had the power of the Big Bang plus all of the galaxies he had devoured).
Which mean what. You do know that a imperex probe is powered by the same energy but had to build a weapon to destroy the planet earth. You do know that a imperex probe is powered by the same energy but they tried to use a space ship to destroy part of the earth because they didnt have the power to do so (until wonder woman mother prevented it from happening). The probes was powered by the same energy of the big bang but has yet to display any kind of high energy feat. war world planet was smaller then pluto and we dont know how much force the engines was using against superman so the feat isnt as impressive as you make it out to be. Again he had to sundip.
Flight? He was chained up inside of Mageddon, he wasn't flying.
He was flying. Post the scan and you're going to see the human carrying the chains (which you think is so great) and you're also going to see him in mid flight. He sure as hell was standing.
And yet J'onn only mentioned his strength being used to power it....
I dont care what jonn mentioned. The point that you're not getting is that mere humans was carrying the chains that superman was pulling so again the feat isnt great he just had to put in some work. you do know that superman strained pretty bad when lifting a pyramid.
The androids never destroyed anything more than a city, yet they easily defeated the Z-senshi. Therefore, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Picollo, etc. can't even destroy a city, despite all of the feats that say they can.
Or you can think about it like this. Even though goku has punching feats that puts him above class 100 strength you need to stop using what superman picked up against a character that dont fly around picking up objects. Frieza with his tail threw goku from the ground to cloud height. Vegeta almost through nappa out of orbit and he wasnt even powered up.
Scans and context, please.
How about you actually reading the comic instead of adding shit.
Besides, GL constructs aren't powered by weight - they are powered by willpower. A GL construct that weight less than an ounce could still be nearly unbreakable.
Stop making excuses. There are plenty of beings that broke through that construct. Gl can make bubble gum to almost anything with his gl ring. He made a construct that had the weight of 100 tons and titus struggled to break free from it but again he one shotted superman TWICE.
Which means Konvikt is stronger, and, if given the opportunity, could perform the same feats.
Prove it.
Then it increases his strength to be on a level to do that.
So I guess despero claws is on that level to since he slice some skin off of superman face.
If people without those feats challenge him, then it is assumed they are simply that strong. It doesn't mean all of his feats never happened.
Again, prove that these people are as strong as him due to them affecting his durability.
And you are doing it quite poorly.
I say the same about you since you throw things out of context and add things to comics that dont belong. Like superman pushing planets and superman fighting at light speed or even past the speed of sound. If he has done this, prove it. Remember, I said pass the speed of sound, not the speed of sound.
I guess you agree Superman can destroy the universe now, since he never had to so there's no proof he can't.
I guessed you missed the point. Superman cant perform none of the feats that I brought up.
As I don't currently have access to my scans, I cannot verify this. However, "the entire area they were in" is a far cry from the entire planet.
It did more damage then anything that superman has done in a comic. Superman most damaging feat is from a cartoon, jlu when he fought captain marvel. Hell, him and darkseid fight didnt even do any damage to a barn.
I don't remember this. Post a manga scan.
Look at the fight and you'll realize this.
Why don't you then, if you are so certain?
I know the real reason on why the area was being destroyed. Reread the comic and stop throwing things out of context. You did get one part right, superman and zod had a lot to do with it but I'll let you read the comic again to find out the real reason. Dont want to spoil the fun.
Then post the relevant scans showing context, instead of just making baseless accusations.
Why dont you just read the comic, authority. LOL
Way to ignore the fact that he actually punched her faster than light.
If they were fighting so fast how did someone with human reaction, etc... max lord, see the entire fight. Again, show me some scan of light speed fighting again.
Arion stated that he had used his magic to increase his speed to Superman's level (or at least what he thought his level was).
Arion never said that he increased his speed up to superman level (whatever that is), he just brought up that he got a speed boost. Dont let me name everyone in comics that has speed. Arion didnt do anything impressive in that entire fight to make me think that he was even close to the speed of sound unless you have a scan proving otherwise.
Arion had boosted his strength and speed to insane levels and Superman still beat him and stole all of his artifacts so fast he didn't even realize it
Stop making up shit, prove to me that arion speed made him faster then spiderman. Before he had human reflexes during his transformation I want you to prove that he was faster then spiderman and dont say because he fought superman because solomon grundy also fought superman and spiderman>>>grundy when it comes to speed.
By the way, this whole challenge you gave me is pointless. I can show you scans of Captain America avoiding all of someone's attacks and beating him. Does that make him stronger than Superman?
I said I want you to show me Superman avoid super speed attacks. I know you read in the jla vs amazo fight that superman cant counter super speed attacks, frieza and goku just move there head side to side from super speed attacks.
Prove it then. Calculate their speeds with actual math, and make sure to show your work.
I want you to prove that superman can combat past the speed of sound let alone light. If we can prove on both we still have facts that goku combat speed>>>>>supermans.
No, you're just an idiot, it seems.
I think the same about you.
I already did. Wonder Woman Sacrifice arc, he fought her around the world and to the sun and back in 1 minute and 54 seconds. Light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun.
You didnt prove anything with that fight since max lord seen the entire thing.
Also, your double standard is hilarious - DBZ characters are faster than light because you think so, and that proves it, while I have to show it to you.
I used the fact that goku stood still while light speed attack went through him, blast that made it to the moon instantly. I use the fact that he flew faster then light speed attacks, slapped light speed attacks, etc...
Except we have observed them actually doing that, so we have to make allowances.
So we basically ignore science for superman and accept it for goku. That seem fair, overrall it is a damn comic.
Enough to hurt Superman physically, which is way above the physical strength of any DBZ character.
Above someone like hercule, everyone else would physically hurt superman since black canary did.
Not when he was bloodlusted.
He was blood lusted the entire time. The slash across the neck it what brought him back to himself. Again read comics before posting about them authority.
More like Superman > Diana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*insert a few thousand more ">"s here* >>>>>>>> Goku
no comment because you're ridiculous. I can show you one combat speed feat from frieza that trumps superman entire career.
Irrelevant analogy. If Hulk was in Bruce Banner's body, no super powers, he wouldn't defeat those thugs.
That still dont change the fact that hes a brute. Champion know every fighting style in the universe but he is still considered a brute. Juggernaut was in the army and know good h2h combat but guess what, hes still a brute. Colossus has been trained by both captain america and wolverine but again he is a brute. So whats your point?
