There is no post ROTS Clone Wars....
Alpha (EU) is not a regular clone. He's an ARC. This whole line of what is ARC and what is ARC trained is blurred between ROTS, the Gendy Series, and This one. One of my infinite problems with this era is no "Clone Canon" has ever been created. All the various types of media have been created their own variations. However, I believe Cody called Rex "Sir" and since Rex is a captain and Cody is a Commander/Field Marshall, I would think that would denote that they are following the Gendy series and denoting a pauldron/kamas as ARC. Course, Bly and the Boys of the 327th also wear pauldrons and kamas in this series and ROTS, but Bly is never defined as an ARC trooper in any series.
Cody and Alpha are not regular clones. They are officers. If you want real military SciFi (the genre that Heinlein and Starship Troopers canonized), you follow a solider, not the brass. This series has actually attempted that in Rookies and Innocents and been successful imo.
And the Jedi will always be there. The point is they should be background characters as the clones are treated in the films and two Clone Wars series. (with the exception of a few episodes). The first and middle part of Innocents demonstrates this perfectly and its why I think its the best episode this series has yet produced.
Originally posted by Ordo
There is no post ROTS Clone Wars....
i meant in terms of release date, which there was.
Alpha (EU) is not a regular clone. He's an ARC. This whole line of what is ARC and what is ARC trained is blurred between ROTS, the Gendy Series, and This one. One of my infinite problems with this era is no "Clone Canon" has ever been created. All the various types of media have been created their own variations. However, I believe Cody called Rex "Sir" and since Rex is a captain and Cody is a Commander/Field Marshall, I would think that would denote that they are following the Gendy series and denoting a pauldron/kamas as ARC. Course, Bly and the Boys of the 327th also wear pauldrons and kamas in this series and ROTS, but Bly is never defined as an ARC trooper in any series.
i never said he was a regular clone. i actually said special forces, denoting non-regularness... 😛
Cody and Alpha are not regular clones. They are officers. If you want real military SciFi (the genre that Heinlein and Starship Troopers canonized), you follow a solider, not the brass. This series has actually attempted that in Rookies and Innocents and been successful imo.
i'm going by the comics, when alpha led clones in to battle alongside the jedi. could have it mixed up, though, as it was a while back...
and i was just talking in vague terms. i wasn't being in any way specific. i fully support the idea of following frontline troops like in starship troopers...
And the Jedi will always be there. The point is they should be background characters as the clones are treated in the films and two Clone Wars series. (with the exception of a few episodes). The first and middle part of Innocents demonstrates this perfectly and its why I think its the best episode this series has yet produced.
i'd still like to see jedi-centric episodes. not as many as usual, but i don't want them relegated to background status in every single episode...
also, i loved Inoocent of Ryloth because it managed to have BOTH a clone story, and some obi-wan where he wasn't being forced to f*ck up just to make anakin look good...
Originally posted by Raoul
i never said he was a regular clone. i actually said special forces, denoting non-regularness... 😛
Originally posted by Raoul
regular clones (like cody and alpha)
fail 😛
You said Ordo was Special Forces, which he really wasn't, but I wont discuss him because he's REALLY EU...as opposed to some of this other stuff.
...but I love him.
Obviously.
Originally posted by Ordo
fail 😛You said Ordo was Special Forces, which he really wasn't, but I wont discuss him because he's REALLY EU...as opposed to some of this other stuff.
...but I love him.
Obviously.
you're taking me far too literally, silly 😛
when i said regular clones, i meant as opposed to jedi, who aren't regular. regular clones = any clone.
the guys who went to Hypori didn't come across as standard clones, though. that was Ordo, right? Or did i get my names mixed up. i'm not good with their names...
I take things literally unless I know people are tying to be funny. To me, regular clones mean basic troopers. No additional rank or specialty training. Whitejobs.
In the Gendy series, the red ARC Trooper was Captain Fordo. Ordo is a Null ARC that only appears (to my knowledge) in Karen Traviss' work.
Canon wise, the only specialized forces are Republic Commandos. I guess we can infer from the specialized armor in ROTS there are further designations (Marines, Airborne, Recon, Assassin, etc). If you add in half-canon like the Clone Wars and The Clone Wars series...you can add ARC troopers to that list.
Originally posted by Ordo
I take things literally unless I know people are tying to be funny. To me, regular clones mean basic troopers. No additional rank or specialty training. Whitejobs.
😂 fair enough.
In the Gendy series, the red ARC Trooper was Captain Fordo. Ordo is a Null ARC that only appears (to my knowledge) in Karen Traviss' work.
fordo, thats it. my bad...
Canon wise, the only specialized forces are Republic Commandos. I guess we can infer from the specialized armor in ROTS there are further designations (Marines, Airborne, Recon, Assassin, etc). If you add in half-canon like the Clone Wars and The Clone Wars series...you can add ARC troopers to that list.
yup...
We've been discussing such...
My brief thoughts: I dont liek the idea of a Kenobi love interest, but at least she critiques the Jedi. I think that it could work well if they use it to show what a facade the Jedi order is.
Things I do like? Mandalorians. The scene where it looks like Padme is cheating on Skyguy. The Catacomg sequence with the Geonosians looks good as well. Hopefully they are taking a page from Republic Commando.
Negatives? Ki Adi is the only new Jedi shown. He had dialogue in the prequels, but we couldn't find anyone else? Luminara, Fisto, and Koon are all back (good) but other than that...!? Also, shoing Geonisis would be cool, but it seems like an awkward flashback.
The main flaw? Its really become apparent this series is not about the stories and characters we didn't see in the prequels. Its still about Anakin and Kenobi with Ashoka thrown in here and there...not good imo.