sundipped superman vs wm thor w/p gem · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
Thor would be able absorb the extra solar energy Superman has obtained either way
I personally don't like the Thor but WM Thor itself was beast Power wise plus adding a Power gem is overkill
Unless superman can speed blitz and take the gem out I don't see him winning.
WM thor was also acting like a retard although I can call PIS on the parts of surfer , strange etc who had the option to stop time , speed blitz etc to take the power gem out, I won’t since it’s the only time that char was shown

How was Thor acting like a retard?

This Thor wasnt afflicted with warrior madness.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's utter hyperbole
Thor doesn't have the brainpower to truly harness the power of the Gem

His situation was analagous to the Collective in New Avengers. The more they fought him, the stronger he became, the more their attacks became useless. Physically, they were simply overmatched by his strength and power right from the start. Karmic blast? No. Dr. Strange's magic? No. Moondragon's Mind Gem + Thanos' machines? No. Force block? Worked at first, was deteriorating.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
His situation was analagous to the Collective in New Avengers. The more they fought him, the stronger he became, the more their attacks became useless. Physically, they were simply overmatched by his strength and power right from the start. Karmic blast? No. Dr. Strange's magic? No. Moondragon's Mind Gem + Thanos' machines? No. Force block? Worked at first, was deteriorating.

👆

Thanos said he was getting stronger by the second.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
How was Thor acting like a retard?
This Thor wasnt afflicted with warrior madness.

Retard as in mad clearly his moves where not logically not that it matters anyway. The main point I was getting across was SS , Strange could have made better use of their powers like maybe use different tactics other than try to overpower Thor which was clearly not a wise choice.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Strange could have made better use of their powers like maybe use different tactics other than try to overpower Thor which was clearly not a wise choice.

Strange used magic on Thor, and Thor turned his power against him.

The Power Gem seems to allow you to turn your enemies' powers against them.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
Retard as in mad clearly his moves where not logically not that it matters anyway. The main point I was getting across was SS , Strange could have made better use of their powers like maybe use different tactics other than try to overpower Thor which was clearly not a wise choice.

You clearly dont understand all the advantages that the power gem brings to the table here. It doesnt just amp your strength.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Strange used magic on Thor, and Thor turned his power against him.
The Power Gem seems to allow you to turn your enemies' powers against them.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Mr Master
Strange used magic on Thor, and Thor turned his power against him.
The Power Gem seems to allow you to turn your enemies' powers against them.

He used his magic Directly at him though

why not try to Stop time etc use other means to take the power gem out would be the logical choice.

All the heroes just tired to brute force him

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
He used his magic Directly at him though
why not try to Stop time etc use other means to take the power gem out would be the logical choice.
All the heroes just tired to brute force him

Again how was Thor a retard? So far,your arguments hinges on the belief that his opposition acted foolish not Thor.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
You clearly dont understand all the advantages that the power gem brings to the table here. It doesnt just amp your strength.

Well it's didn't stop Thanos clearly it wasn't immune to everything strange or surfer could do.

Even if it's said Thor was getting stronger no reason Some of the tactics strange has used in the past not to work here.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
Well it's didn't stop Thanos clearly it wasn't immune to everything strange or surfer could do.
Even if it's said Thor was getting stronger no reason Some of the tactics strange has used in the past not to work here.

Thanos makes the impossible very possible. He also had the durability to stave off Thor's attacks at the time. But,if Thor would have broken out of that force block they all would have been in trouble. No limits to the power gem.

Which tactics?

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again how was Thor a retard? So far,your arguments hinges on the belief that his opposition acted foolish not Thor.

exactly my point this opposition did not use the best tactic they had at there disposable.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos makes the impossible very possible. He also had the durability to stave off Thor's attacks at the time. But,if Thor would have broken out of that force block they all would have been in trouble. No limits to the power gem.
Which tactics?

Go look at strange respect thread.

Stopping time and taking the gem comes to mind

No limits to the power gem? how does that matter again , if they removed the gem- problem solved

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
He used his magic Directly at him though
why not try to Stop time etc use other means to take the power gem out would be the logical choice.
All the heroes just tired to brute force him

True,
but perhaps other than the Time Gem,
the Power Gem makes the wielder immune to time-based attacks,
or magic period, or any non-conventional attack at all.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Go look at strange respect thread.
Stopping time and taking the gem comes to mind
No limits to the power gem? how does that matter again ,
if they removed the gem- problem solved

Hmm ... other than the time gem,
I've never seen anyone able to use a time-based attack on a power gem wielder.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
exactly my point this opposition did not use the best tactic they had at there disposable.

So,then Thor wasnt acting like a retard.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
Go look at strange respect thread.
Stopping time and taking the gem comes to mind
No limits to the power gem? how does that matter again , if they removed the gem- problem solved

If that were as easy as you make it sound why didnt they stop time by going straight to Chronos. If it were as easy as you say,then Eternity wouldnt have been shitting his pants.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Mr Master
True,
but perhaps other than the Time Gem,
the Power Gem makes the wielder immune to time-based attacks,
or magic period, or any non-conventional attack at all.

I don't even think it would need to get that complex. Thor got the gem by hitting Drax and getting him to spit it out. Thor had the gem on his forehead. Superman could easily remove it before Thor even knows what's going on similar to this:

Superman removes multiple artifacts from Arion's body, fingers, hands, neck, arms..etc before he even realizes it... and this is AFTER Arion himself had amped himself up with speed.

A forehead gem would be far easier to remove. Then there is a sundipped Superman with a powergem vs Thor.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hmm ... other than the time gem,
I've never seen anyone able to use a time-based attack on a power gem wielder.

Stoping time doesn't have to be an attack just because Thor , or a wielder of certain gem resisted magic does not mean this won't work.

Unless you can shown otherwise , if Thor did reach this level of power he would have never been contained by Thanos.

and remember this is just one explain am using; speed blitz etc other things could have been used.

Maybe over time he would have gotten to this type of level.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
If that were as easy as you make it sound why didnt they stop time by going straight to Chronos.

Don't play the Why didn't they do it game it's a comic clearly the writers had different plan.

I can come up with millions of Why didn't they do it scenarios in Comics

If it were as easy as you say,then Eternity wouldnt have been shitting his pants.

Eternity feared the power of them Gem not Thor and clearly he wasn't that much of a threat at that point since Thanos contain him for a while.

It's like you know one of those if you let this guy loose he might be a big problem later on.

Could Eternity have stop him? of course thanos did it so clearly he was speaking of what could happen.

Again could Thor get to those level perhaps but from what little is shown

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Avlon
I don't even think it would need to get that complex. Thor got the gem by hitting Drax and getting him to spit it out. Thor had the gem on his forehead. Superman could easily remove it before Thor even knows what's going on similar to this:
Superman removes multiple artifacts from Arion's body, fingers, hands, neck, arms..etc before he even realizes it... and this is AFTER Arion himself had amped himself up with speed.
A forehead gem would be far easier to remove. Then there is a sundipped Superman with a powergem vs Thor.

Cool feat, but I don't think it's that easy, imo.

Drax is dumb like an ox, and never harnesses the gem,
it works on him on an automatic basis like it did with Champion.

Thor was actually tapping into the gem's potential,
he was able to withstand and reverse a karmic soul attack by Warlock's gem,
and a mystic psychic blast, by Dr Strange.

And they weren't holding back, (stated) that's very impressive imo.